This is a bad hockey team

[brakeyawself]

Chytil as the second line center is an absolute joke. No one is fixing this team until we get an upgrade at the center position. After last season it convinced me this team can't compete with the good teams until we upgraded from Strome and Chytil and nothing has changed my opinion during the first dozen games this year. No grit and no quickness. The forecheck is an absolute joke as well. And moving Kreider to the 3rd line when he has been only one of a handfull producing is not a good idea.

I think Drury has done a terrible job so far facilitating the moves the Rangers actually need as opposed to what Drury seems to think they should have. Feel like the only moves he has made, anyone could have made and I am not even sure if he optimized those assets.

We should have all ready traded at least one of our young D's for an equivalent young center. This should have all ready taken place. Now, players we possibly could have gotten at a cheaper price, like Kupari or Rasmussen, are starting to show their potential at the NHL level, making it far less likely they could be acquired at good value if at all. I think Nashville brought in a good reclamation project in Logan Brown. Why didn't Drury do that? Othmann was a good pick even if I would have preferred a center there. But then when a few really good center prospects fell into the 2nd, other teams traded into acquire them, but not the Rangers. Thinking of Pinelli and Raty mostly. Stankoven and Braz to some extent.

He trades away Buch, our best RW who would still be our best RW and manages to ruin the team's relationship with one of it's highest offensive ceiling young wingers in Kravtsov. At a time when neither Laf or Kakko have proven they will be the answer. And while I think Blais has been a good acquisition, he'd be a better acquisition if a 1st round pick instead of a 2nd was attached to him. Or, if we didn't trade Buch for him, but someone else. And yea, I know Buch was likely out regardless. But I don't really buy the reasoning behind that. Especially after seeing the contract he signed with the Blues. He's cheaper than Kreider.

Yet he brings in Goodrow, Blais, Hunt and Reaves because of one circumstance of Tom Wilson having his way with the team? Like we needed all 4 of those guys. 2 at most would have been enough, but no, we needed 4 of them. When we all ready had Rooney, Gauthier and Barron almost ready to contribute.

And sure, Kreider has been productive. But I wouldn't expect that to last if history is anything to go by. He's always been streaky and offensively inconsistent. Ideally, he'd be a 3rd liner. The fact that he's a top 6 forward on this team is more a product of the rest of the team just not producing and less about Kreider having a good run of games.

 

[bernmeister]

Chytil as the second line center is an absolute joke. No one is fixing this team until we get an upgrade at the center position. After last season it convinced me this team can't compete with the good teams until we upgraded from Strome and Chytil and nothing has changed my opinion during the first dozen games this year. No grit and no quickness. The forecheck is an absolute joke as well. And moving Kreider to the 3rd line when he has been only one of a handfull producing is not a good idea.

You are clearly not paying attention as to the games overall and esp as relates to Chytil.

As to "moving Kreider to the 3rd line", it is not a matter of first, second or third line
It is a matter of what player combos have best chemistry/synergy.

Kreider w/Kakko and a physically big mobile C is one pairing that could work and should be given a shot.

 

[bernmeister]

No need to press panic button yet, calm down

HOWEV
this effin win now mentality needs to bend, buckle and break

get it together
work out the kinks
build

no effin win now panic moves

 

[tomobson]

I think Drury wanted and still wants to solve the 2c question next offseason. Unfortunately, Panarin hasn't found the god mode cheat yet this season and maybe he never reaches that level again, but Drury will have to find a temporary fix, at the least, if he wants to salvage this season. You can't have your second line be all wingers if Panarin isn't in god mode.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Break up the T-Birds. We need to send in Sandy

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Until the schedule evens out to something a little more normal I will reserve judgements on players and the team.

I be lying if I wasn’t getting at least a little antsy in regards to several issues with this club though

 

[Tob]

End of season NHL highlight reel is just gonna look like a Rangers lowlight reel with Demko's saves, McDavid's goal, Tkachuk's goal and we're only 10 games in. Scary.

 

[xsniper11x]

Until the schedule evens out to something a little more normal I will reserve judgements on players and the team.

I be lying if I wasn’t getting at least a little antsy in regards to several issues with this club though

I agree with reserving judgement as the players could just be exhausted, but I do feel like there is just something rotten with this core. It might be the combination of players (we have 9Ws in the top 9, no true Cs), or it could just be the players themselves. Either way, I can’t shake this feeling that even if we do settle into another good streak, these same issues will resurface.

 

[fm]

Drury is a moron who’s done little other than push away talent and bring in 4th liners.

 

[Bruner4329]

You are clearly not paying attention as to the games overall and esp as relates to Chytil.

As to "moving Kreider to the 3rd line", it is not a matter of first, second or third line
It is a matter of what player combos have best chemistry/synergy.

Kreider w/Kakko and a physically big mobile C is one pairing that could work and should be given a shot.

Keep dreaming. Chytil has 3 points in 12 games with 2 goals and 1 assist. The basic problem is he does not see the ice very well and he is not the play maker to set up his wings. He is pretty much non existent. In his 5th full year he should be showing much more. For a first round pick he has been a big disappointment. Add the fact that along with him we chose Lias in round one the same year that draft is a huge disappointment and set this team back. You want to wait for Chytil to become a stud center go ahead and it may take another 54 years to see the cup.

 

[Rempe73]

I'm not really understanding your point here. Are you of the opinion that Zib & Panarin will or wont get back to what we know they can be?

And should our goalie not steal games for us? even if its been the majority of the time so far? No one is disputing that they can play better,,,,but is it better to not have the points we are banking? or is it better to lose?

It’s not a good thing to rely on a goalie stealing games imo. If that worked Hank would have a Cup. Hasek too. There is only so much one player can do. And I love Igor, but is he the next Hank? He better be, with the way we’re playing now.

 

[Quinnisinoverhishead]

Lol this team is horrendous.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Holy shit it cannot be understated how dogshit this team is. How the f*** do you almost blow that lead?!?

 

[RGY]

Holy shit it cannot be understated how dogshit this team is. How the f*** do you almost blow that lead?!?

Guy, this is a little bit dramatic.

1st goal: Igor gets punched in the head by Hornqvist

2nd goal: Igor should have had that

3rd goal: Broken play that Zib had a weak stick on.

I knew these reactions were coming. Do you forget who they were playing?

 

[DanielBrassard]

This is not a good team, but whatever.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Guy, this is a little bit dramatic.

1st goal: Igor gets punched in the head by Hornqvist

2nd goal: Igor should have had that

3rd goal: Broken play that Zib had a weak stick on.

I knew these reactions were coming. Do you forget who they were playing?

Doesn’t matter who they are playing. They were outplayed all game and then somehow almost blew a 4 goal lead. The only reason this team wins any games is if Fox or Shesterkin play out of their minds. 45 shots against, 91 to 37 shot attempts tonight. This team just sits back and takes it.

This team is demonstrably not good.

 

[ecemleafs]

this team doesnt work hard enough imo. they dont take the extra stride to get better position or be harder on the puck. they love stick checking and trying to make cute little plays instead of being firm on the puck and moving it with pace. too many players just arent assertive enough either. laf and kakko especially. they got skill and size but they just wanna watch and expect things to happen out there (laf more so than kakko). its something that should be fixable, but they arent a contender until they make that change. its also why we the ice is so tilted when we play against quick hard working teams.

 

[RGY]

Doesn’t matter who they are playing. They were outplayed all game and then somehow almost blew a 4 goal lead. The only reason this team wins any games is if Fox or Shesterkin play out of their minds. 45 shots against, 91 to 37 shot attempts tonight. This team just sits back and takes it.

This team is demonstrably not good.

This is just wrong man.

They were not outplayed the whole game. They had a very strong 2nd period. They kept almost all the shots to the perimeter.

They settled in after the 1st GA, had a few scoring chances, and had some bad goals at the end. They needed to get pucks deep more.

Smh, some of you are so ridiculous. And I respect you as a poster, but this is again dramatic. They played one of the best teams in the league and won.

 

[mas0764]

I'm coming in peace.

This should probably be plastered in a Goodrow thread.

 

[bobbop]

107 point pace and just knocked off the only undefeated team in the league.

Don’t overthink this.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is just wrong man.

They were not outplayed the whole game. They had a very strong 2nd period. They kept almost all the shots to the perimeter.

They settled in after the 1st GA, had a few scoring chances, and had some bad goals at the end. They needed to get pucks deep more.

Smh, some of you are so ridiculous. And I respect you as a poster, but this is again dramatic. They played one of the best teams in the league and won.

please explain to me how allowing 97 shot attempts against and getting outshot 45 TO 18 is not getting and then nearly blowing a 4-0 lead is not getting outplayed.

If Igor has a mediocre game they lose that game 6-0 like on Saturday

 

[TheBloodyNine]

107 point pace and just knocked off the only undefeated team in the league.

Don’t overthink this.

What’s the likelihood they get 107 points if they continue to play like this? I’d place my bet on not likely.

 

[RGY]

please explain to me how allowing 97 shot attempts against and getting outshot 45 TO 18 is not getting and then nearly blowing a 4-0 lead is not getting outplayed.

If Igor has a mediocre game they lose that game 6-0 like on Saturday

Where were the shots taken from? After the 1st period which had 2-3 great chances for Florida, the rest of the game consisted a lot of shot “attempts” from the perimeter. It consisted of Panthers players crashing the net trying to rattle Igor.

Not everything is evaluated in a vacuum.

 

[RGY]

It still counts

 

[DanielBrassard]

Where were the shots taken from? After the 1st period which had 2-3 great chances for Florida, the rest of the game consisted a lot of shot “attempts” from the perimeter. It consisted of Panthers players crashing the net trying to rattle Igor.

Not everything is evaluated in a vacuum.

Florida had 3.5xG at 5v5 dude. The best team in the league averages 2.87/60 and Florida didn't even play 60 5v5 minutes. How can you possibly try to sugarcoat that game, how?