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This is a bad hockey team

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I can’t for the life of me figure out why Hunt gets pp time. I know Chytil went down but this isn’t the first game where Hunt got time on the 2nd unit.
Too much standing around on the pp and all they do is look for the perfect play.
Panarin looks like garbage.
Strome looks like garbage.
Lafrenieres decision making is terrible.
There’s no sense of urgency from most of the team. No hustle. I know it’s still early in the season but they don’t look good at all.
 
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jaywills1020 said:
I can’t for the life of me figure out why Hunt gets pp time. I know Chytil went down but this isn’t the first game where Hunt got time on the 2nd unit.
Too much standing around on the pp and all they do is look for the perfect play.
Panarin looks like garbage.
Strome looks like garbage.
Lafrenieres decision making is terrible.
There’s no sense of urgency from most of the team. No hustle. I know it’s still early in the season but they don’t look good at all.
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Piss poor coaching
 
LafreNYR said:
I don’t care what the record says, Igor is the only reason we’re even above .500.

We’re getting dominated by bad teams, our top guys aren’t performing, our lottery picks aren’t performing, our special teams aren’t performing, and we’re simply being outcoached.

There have only been 1 or 2 games this season that we’ve legitimately deserved to win, and it’s been a pain to watch, despite the wins.
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this is not a bad hockey team

there is room for significant improvement

1. need to deal excess vets and give mins to youth and those who remain

2. STOP WITH THE CONSTANT EFFIN LINE CHANGES
works vs familiarity = smooth functioning lines.

Current lines should be:

Goodrich - Zib - Panarin
LaF - Chytil - Gauthier
Kreider - Barron - Kakko
Reaves - Blais - Rooney
Hunt = spare

deal Krav + Jones + for upgrade futures
also deal Geo for picks
also Kinkaid
showcase Huska, then deal him
get Wall up here
 
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mandiblesofdoom said:
Good times.

A few months ago we were dripping with defense prospects ... and now it's Nemeth & Tinordi helpless against teams with quality, fast forwards.

Abysmal.
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They are still “dripping” with defense prospects. They are developing in the AHL…

We complain we rushed the forward prospects, but then also complain Robertson/Schneider/Jones are in the AHL.

Yes Tinordi sucks and shouldnt be playing. I do think we will eventually see a swap of Lundkvist for Jones.

I think it was unrealistic to see that swap happen during the 4 game west coast trip.
 
jaywills1020 said:
I can’t for the life of me figure out why Hunt gets pp time. I know Chytil went down but this isn’t the first game where Hunt got time on the 2nd unit.
Too much standing around on the pp and all they do is look for the perfect play.
Panarin looks like garbage.
Strome looks like garbage.
Lafrenieres decision making is terrible.
There’s no sense of urgency from most of the team. No hustle. I know it’s still early in the season but they don’t look good at all.
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Yeah. These players need to play fast & instinctively, and right now they aren't. You see the difference when we play against teams like Edmonton & Calgary with their elite forwards. Those guys don't glide & see what develops. They push the play.

Seems like the Rangers group doesn't work well together. Maybe with time they will figure something out.
 
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bernmeister said:
this is not a bad hockey team

there is room for significant improvement

1. need to deal excess vets and give mins to youth and those who remain

2. STOP WITH THE CONSTANT EFFIN LINE CHANGES
works vs familiarity = smooth functioning lines.

Current lines should be:

Goodrich - Zib - Panarin
LaF - Chytil - Gauthier
Kreider - Barron - Kakko
Reaves - Blais - Rooney
Hunt = spare

deal Krav + Jones + for upgrade futures
also deal Geo for picks
also Kinkaid
showcase Huska, then deal him
get Wall up here
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Chytil as the second line center is an absolute joke. No one is fixing this team until we get an upgrade at the center position. After last season it convinced me this team can't compete with the good teams until we upgraded from Strome and Chytil and nothing has changed my opinion during the first dozen games this year. No grit and no quickness. The forecheck is an absolute joke as well. And moving Kreider to the 3rd line when he has been only one of a handfull producing is not a good idea.
 
Drury and Gallant were not and are not the answers. Drury is still a rookie GM, seemingly obsessed with "grit" over talent. And Gallant, for a guy with his reputation, it's very very strange that his first 3 NHL head coaching jobs all ended the same way; not being able to make it through his 3rd full season with any team he has been with. Two of those teams playoff bound and "winning". Once or twice, maybe a coincidence. But 3 times in a row? That tells me more about him than all the other narratives and hype.

Drury and Gallant came in with this "win now" mentality, for a team that is clearly still developing. And I think the changes that have been made are only hindering the development of the players we need to develop. Bringing in all 4 of Blais, Goodrow, Reaves and Hunt was completely unnecessary. Especially when we all ready had Rooney, Gauthier and Barron nearing ready. 2 of those former 4 would have been more than enough "grit", but not for Drury.

These types of acquisitions are the "finishing touches" for a team that is ready to contend. Not the choices of a team clearly still developing. The Kravtsov situation is a prime example. And yea, I get WHY Buch was traded, but I still don't have to like it. Even if Blais has been relatively good so far.

But I think this year, from the very start, should have had Kravtsov, Barron, Jones and Lundkvist all on the roster. And they should have been getting these guys used to the NHL and playing with one another, without damaging anyone's development. And without all this pressure put on Laf and Kakko now. Who I think both at least need another season or two before they feasibly reach their potential. IF they reach their potential at all. But I don't think the changes made to the team, the construction of the roster and the tactics brought in by Gallant are helping at all with player development. Even Chytil looks to have regressed since last season.

For all the crap Gorton and JD got, they actually did a very good job drafting, aside from drafting centers for whatever reason. And aside from the Kreider contract and Trouba acquisition, I don't think they did a terrible job managing the Rangers assets either. Frankly, I think they were prematurely sacked and I think the narratives and negative hype surrounding them both was completely off the mark. I think just comparing what Drury has done in his brief time, to what JD and Gorton did, I would take Gorton and JD any day over Drury right now.

Now Quinn, that's a different story. I didn't quite like how he manged this team either. But looking at Gallant now, I am kind of thinking we didn't have it quite so bad under Quinn. At least he seemed to understand where this team was in their development and that they were still a year or two away from actually contending.

I will be shocked if Gallant makes it through his 3rd season with the Rangers. Fully expect that career pattern to continue for him. And I don't understand at all the love Gallant gets and got as a head coach. He's proven absolutely nothing in like 9 years with 3 different teams. I think all the hype surrounding him is solely based on him "turning the Panthers around", which was nice, but I think a totally different situation that he has with the Rangers. And really the one bright spot in his NHL coaching career. And sure, he was good in the Q...... for whatever that is worth.

And I am not sure what kind of leash Drury is on, I expect he will get at least 3 seasons, but I am really, really not optimistic given what he has done so far since becoming GM.
 
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turcotte8 said:
I know it's early to tell but this thought crossed my mind,

Laf & Kakko = Lundmark & Brendl.
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I prefer to think Huberdeau and Puljujarvi, but you might be right.

At least, I am hoping they take more of the Huberdeau and Puljujarvi paths. There are similarities between Laf and Hubs and KK and Pulju. And it took those guys some time to reach their potential. Looking at what Hubs has been doing the past few seasons and what Puljujarvi is doing now and how he looks, that would be best case scenario for Laf and KK. At least, I have my fingers crossed, even if my optimism has waned.
 
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