Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[DrinkFightFlyers]

My thing with Seeler is that he’s a third pairing defenseman and should be compensated as such-three years at two million per is the top rate for a player like that. Unfortunately these guys get to thinking that they’re second pair players and want to get near four million a year. At that point they’re over their skates. Best to let them go and use up the cap space. The Flyers have a habit of overpaying down the roster defensemen. CIP-Risto, AMac, TDA and others. That has to stop.

Honestly AAV doesn't really matter right now. They aren't and shouldn't be making any big moves so a high AAV isn't a big deal if the term is short. I don't think they should re-sign him or Walker but it isn't the end of the world as long as it is 2-3 years max (and it is only one of them).

 

[freakydallas13]

It's all about "the room". It's always about "the room".

They never ask which room. My room? My room wants them to trade old depth players at the start of their rebuild.

They don't like my room though.

 

[freakydallas13]

I'm awe of how this team can't help themselves but fall in love with every mediocre depth player on the roster and resign them all. Is there another rebuilding team that does this? Serious question.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

It's all about "the room". It's always about "the room".

All about The Room, you say, Bern?

 

[BernieParent]

All about The Room, you say, Bern?
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I was going to ask if Tortorella's face could be put on Johnny's body.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

I'm awe of how this team can't help themselves but fall in love with every mediocre depth player on the roster and resign them all. Is there another rebuilding team that does this? Serious question.

Tough to answer when the Flyers were never rebuilding. Just shuffling chairs on the ole Flytanic been going down since 2012

 

[Tripod]

Flyers Mgt never learn from past mistakes.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Flyers Mgt never learn from past mistakes.

Cause the management never changes.

 

[Flybynite]

Flyers Mgt never learn from past mistakes.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Flyers Mgt never learn from past mistakes.

they dont think its mistakes at all..

thats the problem..

#Culture..

 

[Flyer lurker]

they dont think its mistakes at all..

thats the problem..

#Culture..

Kevin Hayes stats show the wisdom of the7 year deal

Kevin Hayes Stats And News

Get all the latest stats, news, videos, and more on Kevin Hayes.

www.nhl.com

 

[Deadpool8812]

Kevin Hayes stats show the wisdom of the7 year deal

Kevin Hayes Stats And News

Get all the latest stats, news, videos, and more on Kevin Hayes.

www.nhl.com

At 6-foot-5, Hayes can be a physical presence in a checking-line role, a complementary wing in a top-six role and a power-play presence because of his shot. He also has the size to play in the corners and the skill to set up in the slot.

What a bio for Hayes...who wrote it?

 

[BritainStix]

At 6-foot-5, Hayes can be a physical presence in a checking-line role, a complementary wing in a top-six role and a power-play presence because of his shot. He also has the size to play in the corners and the skill to set up in the slot.

What a bio for Hayes...who wrote it?

Getting a 6th rounder for that contract is already looking like a steal. 22 points for 7.1 mil a season. Ouch.

 

[BlackandOrange]

I knew that Kevin Hayes deal would Scott Gomez quickly.

 

[Arkstrom Scorpio]

I didn't doubt for a second that that Hayes deal would sour like a glass of milk left on the porch on a sunny sunday afternoon. 7.1 is pretty rich for a guy like Kev. He's a nice guy, but doesn't warrant that kind of money.

 

[wankstifier]

We expect a 1st+ for Laughton but a 6th for Hayes is a great deal?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I wonder if there is a situation where Walker alone gets you a 2nd, but including Seeler gets you that 1st, maybe you add on a late round pick.

Also, I think being “good in the room is important”, considering how much time these guys spend together - a season can go downhill quick if you have the wrong mix in the locker room. It’s not the end all be all, but it’s not to be completely discredited, it matters.

 

[mr figgles]

My thing with Seeler is that he’s a third pairing defenseman and should be compensated as such-three years at two million per is the top rate for a player like that. Unfortunately these guys get to thinking that they’re second pair players and want to get near four million a year. At that point they’re over their skates. Best to let them go and use up the cap space. The Flyers have a habit of overpaying down the roster defensemen. CIP-Risto, AMac, TDA and others. That has to stop.

Looking around the league, most comparable players are in the 2.5 to 3 range. Seeing as how this is going to be his first and likely only big contract, he’s obviously going to want to get as much as he possibly can.

 

[Curufinwe]

My thing with Seeler is that he’s a third pairing defenseman and should be compensated as such-three years at two million per is the top rate for a player like that.

His agent will argue he's been a 2nd pair guy this season.

 

[wankstifier]

I wonder if there is a situation where Walker alone gets you a 2nd, but including Seeler gets you that 1st, maybe you add on a late round pick.

Also, I think being “good in the room is important”, considering how much time these guys spend together - a season can go downhill quick if you have the wrong mix in the locker room. It’s not the end all be all, but it’s not to be completely discredited, it matters.

Better to invest in a counselor whose compensation won’t count against the cap. Can’t pay top dollar for JAGs who look like they try hard

 

[CapnZin]

Friedman on 32 Thoughts:

- Philly likely to add a CHEAP goaltender and veteran forward at the deadline.
- they will not budge on contract or trade negotiations. Friedman expects Laughton to stay in Philly.
- said he heard on Sunday that Philly has their eyes on the playoffs and want to acquire pieces to make that happen, but not high end assets used to acquire it.
- said they touched on Zegras, but they don’t want to spend the assets to acquire.
- although there’s a bunch of noise regarding Seeler, Walker, and Laughton, if teams don’t match, then they’re not moving. Philly also won’t budge on contracts negotiations. Walker wants 5 years likely around 30 mil and Philly doesn’t want to go that long. Seeler wants somewhere above 3 and Philly doesn’t want to go that high.

He expressed a little concern that they’re backing themselves into a corner. If they won’t play ball, then it fully comes down to how Briere can handle everything caving in at once.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Trying to straddle the line and live in both worlds always works well.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Rebuild over

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Friedman on 32 Thoughts:

- Philly likely to add a CHEAP goaltender and veteran forward at the deadline.
- they will not budge on contract or trade negotiations. Friedman expects Laughton to stay in Philly.
- said he heard on Sunday that Philly has their eyes on the playoffs and want to acquire pieces to make that happen, but not high end assets used to acquire it.
- said they touched on Zegras, but they don’t want to spend the assets to acquire.
- although there’s a bunch of noise regarding Seeler, Walker, and Laughton, if teams don’t match, then they’re not moving. Philly also won’t budge on contracts negotiations. Walker wants 5 years likely around 30 mil and Philly doesn’t want to go that long. Seeler wants somewhere above 3 and Philly doesn’t want to go that high.

They are going to get their shit pushed in in the 1st round (best case), lose both Walker and Seeler for nothing because they have set some unrealistic internal valuation they absolutely must reach (DB trying hard not to seem like a mark), and probably lose a few picks to acquire some shit veterans at the deadline, all the while claiming they are rebuilding. What’s not to like?

 

[FlyerNutter]