Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

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usahockey22flyers

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What Jones said was so dumb, but lets just see what happens come next Friday - I’m 100% down to call the morning show next week and ridicule the team if they do nothing or not enough. Anyone else in?
 

Danko

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I don't know, I just get the feeling that they are gonna make moves towards the rebuild effort. I don't think they are just saying that just to say it...I take his comments as basically what they have already been saying, that they aren't telling the players to tank.
 

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BiggE

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Let’s strip this down to it’s bare bones.

The question that Jones was asked was “has the team exceeded your expectations?”

A response including “we're saying one thing to everyone as far as our messaging and that is that we're rebuilding but we made sure to tell every member of the team that that's BS” in any context is bad.

It’s a statement that just doesn’t need to be made.
The easy answer would have been:

While we certainly felt that Tort’s would have this team competing hard each and every night, sitting in 3rd in the Metro is probably about as good as we could have reasonably expected. Now, that being said, we certainly haven’t lost sight of the bigger picture which is building a team that can compete for the Stanley Cup. Are we there yet? No, but we will continue to build and we certainly hope to be there soon.

Then, if asked about moving any players between now and the deadline, the easy answer would have been:

I really can’t comment on that one way or the other since that is Danny’s department. All I can say is that we are going to do everything we can to build a Cup contending team as quickly as possible.

I mean for f*** sake, it’s not rocket science!
 

FromOyVey2Matvei

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It’s a statement that just doesn’t need to be made.
On that we agree. I’m sure he wishes he didn’t phrase it that way.

But I’d hope you’d also agree that there’s just no reason to blow this out of proportion the way a certain agenda driven section of the fan base is doing (and does with seemingly every negative or potentially negative thing that happens to this team).

There’s also no reason a franchise president of hockey ops needed to do 2 hours on a sports talk station. But it was a former gig of his, he enjoys it and the people of philadelphia find him entertaining. I hope this doesn’t dissuade him from doing similar appearances going forward.
 

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In this case what I want to believe are the words Keith Jones said out loud on the radio. The "rebuild" messaging was BS.

Anyone with a brain can see it's not a real rebuild just by the moves they haven't made.
imagine still saying its a rebuild...


talk about huffin the hopeium..🤣🤣🤣

I guess we will see in a weeks time. Until then, all your clown comments and air of superiority are absolutely worthless.
this post is going to age very well..

🤣🤣🤣
 
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Flyerfan4life

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The easy answer would have been:

While we certainly felt that Tort’s would have this team competing hard each and every night, sitting in 3rd in the Metro is probably about as good as we could have reasonably expected. Now, that being said, we certainly haven’t lost sight of the bigger picture which is building a team that can compete for the Stanley Cup. Are we there yet? No, but we will continue to build and we certainly hope to be there soon.

Then, if asked about moving any players between now and the deadline, the easy answer would have been:

I really can’t comment on that one way or the other since that is Danny’s department. All I can say is that we are going to do everything we can to build a Cup contending team as quickly as possible.

I mean for f*** sake, it’s not rocket science!
i think you just stole Jones POHO job..

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FromOyVey2Matvei

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The easy answer would have been:

While we certainly felt that Tort’s would have this team competing hard each and every night, sitting in 3rd in the Metro is probably about as good as we could have reasonably expected. Now, that being said, we certainly haven’t lost sight of the bigger picture which is building a team that can compete for the Stanley Cup. Are we there yet? No, but we will continue to build and we certainly hope to be there soon.

Then, if asked about moving any players between now and the deadline, the easy answer would have been:

I really can’t comment on that one way or the other since that is Danny’s department. All I can say is that we are going to do everything we can to build a Cup contending team as quickly as possible.

I mean for f*** sake, it’s not rocket science!
There’s about 75,000 different ways he could’ve phrased it better. But most of those sound like corporate BS and canned “say nothing” answers. I like Jonesy cause what you see is what you get. Still the same guy that was on the radio making you laugh for years despite getting elevated to the POHO role. This was an authentic Jonesy answer. Maybe he stepped in it a little from a PR perspective, but that’s classic Keith Jones.

Maybe if you’re a fan living outside the city who isn’t familiar with hearing him on sportstalk radio for a number of years or a fan who was used to hearing Chuckles sound like he perpetually had a stick up his ass, this would be legitimately concerning, but the majority of Flyers fans are capable of reading between the lines.

Whether they want to or not is an entirely different story. There’s a lot of fans here who want to be right about nothing having changed. They’ve put years of effort into that schtick after all…
 

Beef Invictus

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I guess we will see in a weeks time. Until then, all your clown comments and air of superiority are absolutely worthless.

Wow, if anything you're the one with an air of superiority and it is very negative. Considering your impassioned pleas for everyone to be positive, perhaps you should follow your own scolding?
 

Beef Invictus

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I think it’s people who don’t like Jones &/or the Flyers’ management actively seeking out an opportunity to nitpick.

Being positive and optimistic about the intentions of these naysayers, perhaps there is an extended chain of under-the-radar statements as well as actions dating back to last season that indicate they aren't at all rebuilding and actually do think they're just about done doing everything that needs doing?
 

Hollywood Cannon

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On that we agree. I’m sure he wishes he didn’t phrase it that way.

But I’d hope you’d also agree that there’s just no reason to blow this out of proportion the way a certain agenda driven section of the fan base is doing (and does with seemingly every negative or potentially negative thing that happens to this team).

There’s also no reason a franchise president of hockey ops needed to do 2 hours on a sports talk station. But it was a former gig of his, he enjoys it and the people of philadelphia find him entertaining. I hope this doesn’t dissuade him from doing similar appearances going forward.
The issue isn't this one specific statement though. Narrowing it down to just one specific thing does it a disservice. You may be looking at it as this one specific example but the vast majority of us, especially on here, aren't.

It's an ever growing pile of shit that this organization has placed at the feet of it's fanbase.
 

GKJ

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To me, it’s not the deadline that proves the validity of the rebuild, it’s the following offseason into the next season.

If you’re rebuilding, arrow ain’t pointing up in year 2
 

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A qualifier for being in the darkest timeline is the FO's attempt in gaslighting the fan base.

Here we are!

I find it to be very ironic how the same faction of the fanbase who grovel on their knees in defense of everything the FO and Torts say/do are taking something the POHO said and twisting and contorting his words to fit their agenda, when the rest of us are simply taking his words at face value (which is precisely what we are supposed to do as paying fans). Then, those same posters have the audacity to try to throw shit in other people's faces on here and act like we're the contortionists, including using insults to diminish their position on a f***ing forum. Weird, man. What's wrong with these people?

That aside, f*** you Keith Jones.
 

ponder719

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If the deadline doesn't results in the trades of Walker and Seeler, it is going to be marvelous watching Charlie collapse into himself saying "It was just radio banter! The rebuild is still on! They just decided to not make any trades"
Cholly (prolly): "Danny worked much harder than his predecessor to try and make a positive move for the future, but none of his 18 calls panned out."
 

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A qualifier for being in the darkest timeline is the FO's attempt in gaslighting the fan base.

Here we are!

I find it to be very ironic how the same faction of the fanbase who grovel on their knees in defense of everything the FO and Torts say/do are taking something the POHO said and twisting and contorting his words to fit their agenda, when the rest of us are simply taking his words at face value (which is precisely what we are supposed to do as paying fans). Then, those same posters have the audacity to try to throw shit in other people's faces on here and act like we're the contortionists, including using insults to diminish their position on a f***ing forum. Weird, man. What's wrong with these people?

That aside, f*** you Keith Jones.
#sameasiteverwas...
 
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Tripod

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So just to be clear, the Flyers media mouthpiece says something and instead of believing what he said, we should instead "infer" what he meant.

Let's see what the actions show....

Didn't sell high on Laughton....just made him A captain a few weeks ago
Got rid of non-Torts guys....including looking at trading Frost
Added Staal, Hathaway, Poehling
Traded Gauthier for a guy playing now....when healthy

Where are the rebuilding moves under Briere?
 

trostol

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It's real.

The question he's responding to is at 8:29:40 and he says the quote at 8:30:12


Decamera follows it up with "We just heard it from a Philadelphia executive may not be what they really think!" Jones did not shoot it down in any way.

Look, I get what he's saying here is that the players in the room don't care about a rebuild. They have to perform so that they can bring home a check to their family and put tape out there but JFC.

Here's the full quote for those that don't want to listen:
i feel bad for saying it..cause i do want the team to succeed...but I hope this blows up in their faces lol
 
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