Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Beef Invictus]

I get it wasn’t through traditional means but at the end of the day one of the teams they tout as a model in Vegas did what they did because they had a stockpile of assets & cap space so they could strike when guys like Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, etc. came available.

The Flyers are supposed to be rebuilding, this is absolutely the time to sit back & collect assets/capsace not just to draft but also to flexibility if someone of note comes available in the coming years. But they’re gun shy on moving depth players instead of gaining assets & capsapce from them.

They’re doing everything in their power to completely have the percentages against them & essentially just banking on blind luck instead of trying to game the system more.

They don’t want to bottom out so that closes off the highest percentage play of obtaining high end talent. The next two plays which are less likely compared to the first are draft them outside of those tops picks or acquire the said players through trade or free agency. The last option you’re likely getting them either in their prime or leaving it so you’re not even getting the earlier cheap contract years even with that. So even with those last two options you’re passing up more draft pick & capspace opportunities on depth players which should be a pretty easy choice to make.

It's just so honorable and honest though. Hard working. I admire it.

 

[trostol]

If Torts has that much say..then it's even worse than I thought

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

 

[usahockey22flyers]

This could be really interesting…

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I understand that there’s a component here of confirming priors and so I do try to keep it in scope. But Atkinson saying that Tortorella got involved in contract negotiations on the side of his players is one of those throwaway comments that never really leaves my process.

It was in Columbus and I have no way of knowing for sure that it’s still happening. But I just don’t see any way in which that’s a positive sign of organizational competence. And I certainly don’t see any signs of them trying to reel him in a bit.

 

[Magua]

They picked the right team that overvalues what Laughton brings. We’ll see if they can bear to part with their cultural demigod and to a division rival yet. Obviously, the Rangers have 2 interesting prospects besides the 1st.

 

[freakydallas13]

I get it wasn’t through traditional means but at the end of the day one of the teams they tout as a model in Vegas did what they did because they had a stockpile of assets & cap space so they could strike when guys like Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, etc. came available.

The Flyers are supposed to be rebuilding, this is absolutely the time to sit back & collect assets/capsace not just to draft but also to flexibility if someone of note comes available in the coming years. But they’re gun shy on moving depth players instead of gaining assets & capsapce from them.

They’re doing everything in their power to completely have the percentages against them & essentially just banking on blind luck instead of trying to game the system more.

They don’t want to bottom out so that closes off the highest percentage play of obtaining high end talent. The next two plays which are less likely compared to the first are draft them outside of those tops picks or acquire the said players through trade or free agency. The last option you’re likely getting them either in their prime or leaving it so you’re not even getting the earlier cheap contract years even with that. So even with those last two options you’re passing up more draft pick & capspace opportunities on depth players which should be a pretty easy choice to make.

To add to this, how often do teams trade their high end talent at all? Why would another team trade their star during the prime of their career unless they were forced to?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

To add to this, how often do teams trade their high end talent at all? Why would another team trade their star during the prime of their career unless they were forced to?

Probably not as much you’d hope. Eichel & Tkachuk were probably the most recent ones both forced trades. They were traded in the mid 20’s.

Free agency is probably a better bet of landing that type of talent or an expiring UFA that’s headed to free agency & could be traded for (ala Mark Stone).

 

[freakydallas13]

I understand that there’s a component here of confirming priors and so I do try to keep it in scope. But Atkinson saying that Tortorella got involved in contract negotiations on the side of his players is one of those throwaway comments that never really leaves my process.

It was in Columbus and I have no way of knowing for sure that it’s still happening. But I just don’t see any way in which that’s a positive sign of organizational competence. And I certainly don’t see any signs of them trying to reel him in a bit.

Imagine having to negotiate not just with the player's agent, but against your own head coach at the same time.

Truly the Flyers are ahead of the curve.

 

[GKJ]

Don’t know about the Sharks, but the rest are all teams you want to see there.

Vancouver is interesting as they don’t really have room to move.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Florida only has 3 players they drafted in their lineup. Ekblad, Barkov, and Lundell. The rest were all trades or signings. If we are modeling after Florida then we should see a flurry of moves.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Who is this guy?

 

[AdamParrot]

The Rangers can't trade 1st '24. Their owner want to be in Vegas on June.

But I'd still take ASAP 1st round '25 for Laughton. Even in 2026 year to be honest. Would be still a huge win for Flyers.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Who is this guy?

He joined the scene last year, a recent grade at Monmouth from his bio. He works for the same outfit as Sam Carchidi. Scott Laughton had been mentioned as a potential trade target by others including a Rangers' beat. Seems as if the Flyers want a first and the Rangers are reluctant, at least currently but that if course is conjecture.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Alright just recapping after watching the game and listening to some podcasts:

1. On TNT intermission Liam (right that is Liam McHugh?) suggested Laughton to the Rangers as the first team out of his mouth, I think he said the Oilers next maybe or Toronto? Biz then brought up Tampa because they have targeted guys with term, and the Avs as another landing spot

2. Boucher on broadcast mentioned Walker, Seeler, and Laughton as guys who can definitely be moved

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3. Jeff Marek show - Jeff theorized Walker and Seeler together to Tampa

4. Greg Wys was on the JM Show and had some interesting thoughts on Torts and coaching in the NHL, he thinks that Torts will be given some vindication on his Blue Jackets stint given what has been going on with PLD in LA, “Torts was ahead of the curve”

I would give the Marek show a listen, I found that to be a really good conversation

 

[iceman42]

3. Jeff Marek show - Jeff theorized Walker and Seeler together to Tampa

There was a rumor 2 weeks back that one of the teams out West were looking at Seerler and Walker together

 

[mr4tno]

I get it wasn’t through traditional means but at the end of the day one of the teams they tout as a model in Vegas did what they did because they had a stockpile of assets & cap space so they could strike when guys like Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, etc. came available.

The Flyers are supposed to be rebuilding, this is absolutely the time to sit back & collect assets/capsace not just to draft but also to flexibility if someone of note comes available in the coming years. But they’re gun shy on moving depth players instead of gaining assets & capsapce from them.

They’re doing everything in their power to completely have the percentages against them & essentially just banking on blind luck instead of trying to game the system more.

They don’t want to bottom out so that closes off the highest percentage play of obtaining high end talent. The next two plays which are less likely compared to the first are draft them outside of those tops picks or acquire the said players through trade or free agency. The last option you’re likely getting them either in their prime or leaving it so you’re not even getting the earlier cheap contract years even with that. So even with those last two options you’re passing up more draft pick & capspace opportunities on depth players which should be a pretty easy choice to make.

Maybe they are banking on teams playing their back-up goalies against them. Even the dreg of the league - Chicago - did it....

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

There was a rumor 2 weeks back that one of the teams out West were looking at Seerler and Walker together

Wonder who it was. Can’t Imagine Tampa has the assets for both

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Who is this guy?

What MSE said but he’s also the guy who put out such hits lately as the Flyers NEED to play Marc Staal and they NEED to trade for Casey Mittlestadt.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Wonder who it was. Can’t Imagine Tampa has the assets for both

Probably Dallas.

 

[mr figgles]

There was a rumor 2 weeks back that one of the teams out West were looking at Seerler and Walker together

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a bunch of teams looking at them as a package. They don’t make a whole lot, and they already have chemistry, so you don’t have to worry about if they mesh with a new partner. How often do teams have the opportunity to acquire a whole 3rd pair?

 

[Curufinwe]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a bunch of teams looking at them as a package. They don’t make a whole lot, and they already have chemistry, so you don’t have to worry about if they mesh with a new partner. How often do teams have the opportunity to acquire a whole 3rd pair?

A 3rd pair making only $3,425,000. And if the Flyers retain 50% on Walker that would go down to $2,100,000 AAV combined.

 

[snoop88]

I’m at peace with the weird reality that we’re a playoff team. It is what it is.

I hope Danny pleasantly surprises me and sells off half the roster at the deadline but I’m not holding my breath.

 

[iceman42]

Probably Dallas.

Winnipeg sticks out in my mind as to who the article was listing, but not 100% sure.

 

[wankstifier]

Laughton for Kakko?