Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[GKJ]

If the Flyers weren't prepared to make the hard decision now, they should have thought about that in the offseason and moved the players then.

In a vacuum, last year was the year you wanted higher picks. This year is supposed to be deeper on defensemen, but people are saying that once you get past 20, there is a clear drop. That's why we've had teams be willing to move those picks much earlier, I think. Boston, Calgary, Winnipeg, Florida are not drafting above like 25. In fact I'd say it's more likely that Briere uses that pick to move up in this draft, too.

They were also never moving Laughton or Sanheim just to get the draft picks, they were doing it so they could move up to get Michkov, and when they found out they didn't have to, that changed their plan.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

3 extra 2nd round picks is an insane amount of extra amo for a smart GM to have in the offseason.

Make trades, move up in 1st round, add as sweetener to buy out guys ( Rosto , Cambo )

Risto is not a buy-out candidate. He's a trade candidate.

I can sort of see your point about late seconds being more valuable if you get three of them in the same draft and use them to move up in the draft.

 

[Rebels57]

What has Briere done so far that has shown he’s worth a shit? Everything has signalled that he is overwhelmed and that the rest of the league believes they can run over him just like Cuck.

Provorov Trade
Drafting Michkov (and later Barkey)
Poehling signing

All good to great moves

The rest is a mixed bag. Nothing has really signified "cuck that the rest of the league can runover."

 

[bennysflyers16]

Leafs
Stars
Jets

All want D men

 

[Tripod]

TSN trade board....


3 weeks ago Laughton and Walker were in the top 4 to be traded, Seeler was #11 I believe.

Now there is no Flyer in the top 5

 

[Ironmanrulez]

Already laying down the ground work for later used excuses.

Worst franchise!

 

[Flyerfan4life]

TSN trade board....


3 weeks ago Laughton and Walker were in the top 4 to be traded, Seeler was #11 I believe.

Now there is no Flyer in the top 5

other GMs are just gunna wait him out

 

[FLYguy3911]

Keith Jones said just the other day they were nowhere close to Florida (he also says that is the team they are modeling themselves after - move over Vegas and Tampa). If you internally believe that enough to make it public, why would you not sell at the deadline? So you can bow out of the playoffs more honorably? For the boys in the room?

They've done a good job talking about building for the future at every media availability. But talk is cheap. It has to start actually happening. One of the more frustrating parts of being a fan recently is the org's inability to make tough decisions. They fall in love with depth pieces and make them part of the core. They are unsure of an RFA so they bridge them, sometimes even twice. When an RFA is getting close to free agency they hand out max term deals like candy. When you're in no man's land as they are currently, you have to do some things outside of the box and unconventional. That would include selling off depth players at the deadline when you are in a playoff spot. If they don't, it's hard to convince me it's a "New Era".

 

[bennysflyers16]

Scouting Jets again last night, if it is Stanley that may be my death blow as a fan.

He fought last night too,,,,

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Keith Jones said just the other day they were nowhere close to Florida (he also says that is the team they are modeling themselves after - move over Vegas and Tampa). If you internally believe that enough to make it public, why would you not sell at the deadline? So you can bow out of the playoffs more honorably? For the boys in the room?

They've done a good job talking about building for the future at every media availability. But talk is cheap. It has to start actually happening. One of the more frustrating parts of being a fan recently is the org's inability to make tough decisions. They fall in love with depth pieces and make them part of the core. They are unsure of an RFA so they bridge them, sometimes even twice. When an RFA is getting close to free agency they hand out max term deals like candy. When you're in no man's land as they are currently, you have to do some things outside of the box and unconventional. That would include selling off depth players at the deadline when you are in a playoff spot. If they don't, it's hard to convince me it's a "New Era".

Strong agree. They have constantly said they were rebuilding, CONSTANTLY.

If they don't move at least 2 or 3 guys at the deadline, this is Chuck Fletcher territory and another wasted year to help build for the future.

I think fans want people moved already, so do I, but I think a little patience is fair - even though I'm on edge for the time being.

Shoutout to the guy at the STH event who yelled "SELL" at Danny. Hero.

 

[Cody Webster]

Scouting Jets again last night, if it is Stanley that may be my death blow as a fan.

He fought last night too,,,,

They probably told him who was in the building and that it'd be in his best interest to fight

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Keith Jones said just the other day they were nowhere close to Florida (he also says that is the team they are modeling themselves after - move over Vegas and Tampa). If you internally believe that enough to make it public, why would you not sell at the deadline? So you can bow out of the playoffs more honorably? For the boys in the room?

They've done a good job talking about building for the future at every media availability. But talk is cheap. It has to start actually happening. One of the more frustrating parts of being a fan recently is the org's inability to make tough decisions. They fall in love with depth pieces and make them part of the core. They are unsure of an RFA so they bridge them, sometimes even twice. When an RFA is getting close to free agency they hand out max term deals like candy. When you're in no man's land as they are currently, you have to do some things outside of the box and unconventional. That would include selling off depth players at the deadline when you are in a playoff spot. If they don't, it's hard to convince me it's a "New Era".

I agree with you and disagree with you. I fully agree that a rebuilding team has to make "tough decisions." But a tough decision was whether to extent Tippett or selling off Konecny before locking him into an 8 year term to get meaningful future assets. A tough decision is also whether you trade someone like York as part of a package for someone with 1C potential. Those are tough decisions that any actual rebuilding team needs to face.

But we're not even talking about tough decisions. Selling off 30 year UFAs at the deadline is not a tough decision. It is the easiest lay up possible. The fact that they are struggling so much with these easy decisions leaves me with no hope for when they reach the actual tough decisions.

 

[renberg]

We'll have to see how the TDL works. Unfortunately for the Flyers, there are a fair number of quality defensemen on the market; righties too. That drives down the potential return for Walker. It's not the same for centers where Henrique is the best available so Laughton should be able to draw a decent haul unless teams see him really as only a LW. Hart was the possible best trading chip but that isn't happening which is a real hit for the club. After that what the Flyers have to offer is pretty slim. Atkinson and Deslauriers are n't going to return a bag of practice pucks.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

They probably told him who was in the building and that it'd be in his best interest to fight

omg! that would be peak f***ing Flyers...

hahaa...

 

[bennysflyers16]

We'll have to see how the TDL works. Unfortunately for the Flyers, there are a fair number of quality defensemen on the market; righties too. That drives down the potential return for Walker. It's not the same for centers where Henrique is the best available so Laughton should be able to draw a decent haul unless teams see him really as only a LW. Hart was the possible best trading chip but that isn't happening which is a real hit for the club. After that what the Flyers have to offer is pretty slim. Atkinson and Deslauriers are n't going to return a bag of practice pucks.

Like who, Tanev but he is a totally different D man than Walker.

Walker and Laughton are slam dunk gimmee trades if you are in a rebuild or a retool.

omg! that would be peak f***ing Flyers...

hahaa...

Well he is absolutely brutal and was inserted, then fought, it truly is scary that could be the Flyers target. Like Stanley is BAD, real bad.

 

[renberg]

Like who, Tanev but he is a totally different D man than Walker.

Walker and Laughton are slam dunk gimmee trades if you are in a rebuild or a retool.


Well he is absolutely brutal and was inserted, then fought, it truly is scary that could be the Flyers target. Like Stanley is BAD, real bad.

For starters, Hanafin, Skjei, Myers, Barrie, Ghostisbehere, Pesce, Dumba. There are others.

 

[bennysflyers16]

For starters, Hanafin, Skjei, Myers, Barrie, Ghostisbehere, Pesce, Dumba. There are others.

Hanifin better, but 3 times as expensive
Ghost wont be traded ???
Pesce traded ???

Walker better than the others.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Give me Brad Lambert.

 

[renberg]

Hanifin better, but 3 times as expensive
Ghost wont be traded ???
Pesce traded ???

Walker better than the others.

After the TDL salary matters less. Salary retention in the deal can cover expense. Face it the teams moving these guys are only concerned about the return in the trade. These guys that are UFAs goners from their respective teams.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Give me Brad Lambert.

Flyers would need to pay a lot to get him, but f*** the kid is good.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

Give me Brad Lambert.

You'll get Logan Stanley and like it.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Keith Jones said just the other day they were nowhere close to Florida (he also says that is the team they are modeling themselves after - move over Vegas and Tampa). If you internally believe that enough to make it public, why would you not sell at the deadline? So you can bow out of the playoffs more honorably? For the boys in the room?

They've done a good job talking about building for the future at every media availability. But talk is cheap. It has to start actually happening. One of the more frustrating parts of being a fan recently is the org's inability to make tough decisions. They fall in love with depth pieces and make them part of the core. They are unsure of an RFA so they bridge them, sometimes even twice. When an RFA is getting close to free agency they hand out max term deals like candy. When you're in no man's land as they are currently, you have to do some things outside of the box and unconventional. That would include selling off depth players at the deadline when you are in a playoff spot. If they don't, it's hard to convince me it's a "New Era".

Why Florida?


Why even chase other "models?" Go your own way and be the best version of you. Be true to yourself. Have confidence. Be optimistic and positive.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I agree with you and disagree with you. I fully agree that a rebuilding team has to make "tough decisions." But a tough decision was whether to extent Tippett or selling off Konecny before locking him into an 8 year term to get meaningful future assets. A tough decision is also whether you trade someone like York as part of a package for someone with 1C potential. Those are tough decisions that any actual rebuilding team needs to face.

But we're not even talking about tough decisions. Selling off 30 year UFAs at the deadline is not a tough decision. It is the easiest lay up possible. The fact that they are struggling so much with these easy decisions leaves me with no hope for when they reach the actual tough decisions.

Yes. It's not a tough decision for us. It is for them though apparently. The worst thing you can do in sports is try to play the fence between competing and rebuilding - Flyers hockey for almost a decade and a half. Gotta pick a lane.

Why Florida?


Why even chase other "models?" Go your own way and be the best version of you. Be true to yourself. Have confidence. Be optimistic and positive.

They are always obsessed with the hottest team atm. It's a weird fetish.

 

[bennysflyers16]

You'll get Logan Stanley and like it.

6 8" and shit >>> 5 7" fast and skilled.

#Rebuild

Stanley Risto would be the worst 3rd pair in NHL history

 

[wankstifier]

Florida's path to success has to be about as anti-Flyers as it gets.