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I'm sure that despite changing their plan every year or two, they can manage to stick to whatever this plan is until they see it through. They are paid professionals. I believe in them.
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I'm sure that despite changing their plan every year or two, they can manage to stick to whatever this plan is until they see it through. They are paid professionals. I believe in them.
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Sneaking in as a 8th seed and making the SCF? I don't think you get much more Flyers than that!
That's the dream. Just get in, baby!
Flyerfan4life
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i cant wait for mt. Beef to eventually explode like Pompei..
im so here for it..
GKJ
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wankstifier
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Meant to refer to the process of building the team. They only have three drafted players on their active roster. They've been savvy and aggressive about acquiring NHL talent.
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The Florida model started with a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th overall pick. The Flyers are already way off target.
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Makes sense since they interviewed Bill Zito and hired Chuck.
Maybe one way to be the Florida path is to maybe f***ing hire someone from their braintrust.
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You're going back over 10 years. There's a bit more they've done since then.
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The Florida model involved making the highest degree of difficulty trade in years. What are the odds they both understand this and are capable of doing that?
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Sure, but they had to tank and acquire high end talent to get started.
Beef Invictus
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i cant wait for mt. Beef to eventually explode like Pompei..
im so here for it..
The Vesuvius eruption of 79 was a positive event because it preserved a library of otherwise lost works
LegionOfDoom91
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Flyers management definitely would have saw that trade as a top line winger & defensemen for a top line winger at the time of trade. I doubt the nuances of age curve & contract value would have been factored in.
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What could possibly be harder than trading Laughton and his generational intangibles?
FLYguy3911
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I can see how this plays out though. They are hot for centers so they will put all of their eggs into that basket and will definitely miss out on some golden opportunities to add play driving wingers that could provide the same or better impact than these centers they are chasing. *cough*Gabe Perreault*cough*
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I think the Flyers are more likely to be the Panthers that gave away Marchessault and Reilly Smith to protect Alex Petrovic than the Zito iteration.
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JojoTheWhale
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I don't disagree with the idea that they're locked into their wingers, but it's a wonderful example of what incompetent franchises do. I'm still looking for the first sign of agility.
I think their interaction of “it takes two to tango” relies on the shelf life of Torts. His role seems to be a bit larger than developing the team systemically. If they believe Torts will be behind the bench in 3-4 years (height of their plan seemingly) then they’ll want to take in any player that excels in his system. Seeler doesn’t put up points, he doesn’t really shut down plays the way our team leads you to believe, he’s not that great in coverage, but he does everything that torts loves, so it’s easy to plug and play. I don’t mind having players like that, but they can’t be priorities.
Flyerfan4life
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Which is my principle objection to the Tippett extension and the Konecny one that we all know is coming. A rebuild should be a time of maximum flexibility so you can take advantage of every opportunity that presents itself. They've predictably taken the opposite route.
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LegionOfDoom91
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I get it wasn’t through traditional means but at the end of the day one of the teams they tout as a model in Vegas did what they did because they had a stockpile of assets & cap space so they could strike when guys like Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, etc. came available.
The Flyers are supposed to be rebuilding, this is absolutely the time to sit back & collect assets/capsace not just to draft but also to flexibility if someone of note comes available in the coming years. But they’re gun shy on moving depth players instead of gaining assets & capsapce from them.
They’re doing everything in their power to completely have the percentages against them & essentially just banking on blind luck instead of trying to game the system more.
They don’t want to bottom out so that closes off the highest percentage play of obtaining high end talent. The next two plays which are less likely compared to the first are draft them outside of those tops picks or acquire the said players through trade or free agency. The last option you’re likely getting them either in their prime or leaving it so you’re not even getting the earlier cheap contract years even with that. So even with those last two options you’re passing up more draft pick & capspace opportunities on depth players which should be a pretty easy choice to make.
The Flyers are supposed to be rebuilding, this is absolutely the time to sit back & collect assets/capsace not just to draft but also to flexibility if someone of note comes available in the coming years. But they’re gun shy on moving depth players instead of gaining assets & capsapce from them.
They’re doing everything in their power to completely have the percentages against them & essentially just banking on blind luck instead of trying to game the system more.
They don’t want to bottom out so that closes off the highest percentage play of obtaining high end talent. The next two plays which are less likely compared to the first are draft them outside of those tops picks or acquire the said players through trade or free agency. The last option you’re likely getting them either in their prime or leaving it so you’re not even getting the earlier cheap contract years even with that. So even with those last two options you’re passing up more draft pick & capspace opportunities on depth players which should be a pretty easy choice to make.
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Renny its not against you. But i read it one time too much on here!
stop making excuses! Its hard, its difficult, they need to respect the locker room, Torts will stop the trade, they have a chance at the playoffs........... I CANT HEAR IT ANYMORE!
Just do what is needed to be done!!! And if you arent man enough to do it resign from your job!
WHAT THE f*** IS HAPPENING!
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Yeah, the idea the Flyers aren't the Calgary Flames in this imaginary scenario is a hoot. You also have Barkov + Tkachuk making almost $20MM combined, and Briere is clear that they don't want to be built that way. They don't have a player of either caliber, don't want to pick in the range to acquire one, and don't want to accumulate the assets in the event a trade is available. The Flyers are as risk averse as it gets. When they had the chance to choose Reinhart or Ristolainen, we know how that went. At best, Bennett and Tippett were probably similar cost gambles and rewards. Florida has 5 of those, and that's maybe the 4th best one.
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