Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

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TheKingPin

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Yeah Tk doesnt make sense unless it's an absolute haul. He's young and he is just entering his prime. No one is going to be able to afford the price to get him out of Philly.
You want 1sts but it’s not like teams are trading their top 3 pick for a player like him. If they can get 2 more 1sts this year that’s great.
 

GKJ

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Slim picking in the prospect pools of this yers playoff teams. Tk would get a 1+ at the draft
that wouldn’t be worth more than the level of prospect they should get. It’s not a good draft for that, that’s why teams have already moved their picks.
 

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All Seeler and no Walker makes Ristolainen a dull Laughton.
 

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Let’s go with the hypotheticals here and Laughton, Walker and Seeler get moved out. Who replaces them? Unless the guys at LV have been fooling around, there’s not much there to bring up. Bring back Brink and return Cates to center where he does not do that well? Bring up Attard, Belpedio or Andrae? Belpedio might do ok. Play a cooked Staal?
The problem is that Lappy hasn’t been able to bring along the guys at LV that the big club needed to be ready for the show after the TDL. Specifically Desnoyers, Attard and Andrae. The mess with the Phantoms is a major problem that needs to be addressed asap.
 

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Walker needs to be traded. His camp wants 5 mil a year. Hes not worth that and theres a good chance hes overachieving this year.

We know what risto is. Hes been decent and bring us a return in a couple years when more kids are ready. If we give walker 5x5 and he comes back down to earth/has more injuries we are stuck with him.
 

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Let’s go with the hypotheticals here and Laughton, Walker and Seeler get moved out. Who replaces them? Unless the guys at LV have been fooling around, there’s not much there to bring up. Bring back Brink and return Cates to center where he does not do that well? Bring up Attard, Belpedio or Andrae? Belpedio might do ok. Play a cooked Staal?
The problem is that Lappy hasn’t been able to bring along the guys at LV that the big club needed to be ready for the show after the TDL. Specifically Desnoyers, Attard and Andrae. The mess with the Phantoms is a major problem that needs to be addressed asap.
Can’t fool ourselves. This team is not winning a series. It would be cool to see the playoffs and all, and it’s good experience for the young guys, but there’s no way they should lose sight of the goal here.. not saying they don’t.
 

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Let’s go with the hypotheticals here and Laughton, Walker and Seeler get moved out. Who replaces them? Unless the guys at LV have been fooling around, there’s not much there to bring up. Bring back Brink and return Cates to center where he does not do that well? Bring up Attard, Belpedio or Andrae? Belpedio might do ok. Play a cooked Staal?
The problem is that Lappy hasn’t been able to bring along the guys at LV that the big club needed to be ready for the show after the TDL. Specifically Desnoyers, Attard and Andrae. The mess with the Phantoms is a major problem that needs to be addressed asap.
Your point? How far is this group going if they remain the same? Time to find out what they have in the young guys. Teams who are good for a long time have low cost talent throughout the line up.

Not that it matters it's not the Flyers ethos anyway. Never was a reubild
 
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FromOyVey2Matvei

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Walker needs to be traded. His camp wants 5 mil a year. Hes not worth that and theres a good chance hes overachieving this year.

We know what risto is. Hes been decent and bring us a return in a couple years when more kids are ready. If we give walker 5x5 and he comes back down to earth/has more injuries we are stuck with him.
Honestly, 5MM doesn’t seem that absurd to me. Especially if that’s just what his camp “wants”. Maybe they “settle” for 4.5.

And I’d be more concerned anyway with hopefully limiting it to 4 years.
 

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Walker needs to be traded. His camp wants 5 mil a year. Hes not worth that and theres a good chance hes overachieving this year.

We know what risto is. Hes been decent and bring us a return in a couple years when more kids are ready. If we give walker 5x5 and he comes back down to earth/has more injuries we are stuck with him.
Honestly, 5MM doesn’t seem that absurd to me. Especially if that’s just what his camp “wants”. Maybe they “settle” for 4.5.

And I’d be more concerned anyway with hopefully limiting it to 4 years.
For what it’s worth, Dom L has his salary valued at 5.5m/year. But to me there are two things to account for.

1) is this the real Walker or if this just a flash in the pan?
2) even if he performs like this and is worth his contract, you need players somewhere in the lineup to overperform their salary cap…That usually comes from ELC players and 2nd contracts (even bridge contracts). If you pay him 5M, he's likely not providing surplus value.

I'm not against giving Walker a contract at UFA, but to me the smart move is to trade him and collect assets at the deadline.
 

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For what it’s worth, Dom L has his salary valued at 5.5m/year. But to me there are two things to account for.

1) is this the real Walker or if this just a flash in the pan?
2) even if he performs like this and is worth his contract, you need players somewhere in the lineup to overperform their salary cap…That usually comes from ELC players and 2nd contracts (even bridge contracts). If you pay him 5M, he's likely not providing surplus value.

I'm not against giving Walker a contract at UFA, but to me the smart move is to trade him and collect assets at the deadline.

That’s the concern with me as well & I generally liked him more than public perception at the time of the trade. He’s been better this year than even I expected though. But prior to this year he’s generally ranged from a good to JAG level depth defender. You are paying at an absolute peak & he is 29 so you’re paying a high price on the downside of the age curve with one season to base this off of.

Even if I was another team potentially trading for him I really wouldn’t give up a first rounder for example for the same reasons. Hopefully they do but I wouldn’t be excited about that if I was a fan of team that potentially did so.
 

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That’s the concern with me as well & I generally liked him more than public perception at the time of the trade. He’s been better this year than even I expected though. But prior to this year he’s generally ranged from a good to JAG level depth defender. You are paying at an absolute peak & he is 29 so you’re paying a high price on the downside of the age curve with one season to base this off of.

Even if I was another team potentially trading for him I really wouldn’t give up a first rounder for example for the same reasons. Hopefully they do but I wouldn’t be excited about that if I was a fan of team that potentially did so.
Another thing. By and large, Shaw has done an impressive job working with the defense. TDA was the only significant player that Shaw has not been able to improve. So is Walker’s improvement for real? IDK. It works here; maybe not somewhere else. If I was him, I’d try to find a way to stick here and make someone else available.
 

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Another thing. By and large, Shaw has done an impressive job working with the defense. TDA was the only significant player that Shaw has not been able to improve. So is Walker’s improvement for real? IDK. It works here; maybe not somewhere else. If I was him, I’d try to find a way to stick here and make someone else available.
Also they better hope Brad Shaw has no aspirations to be a head coach.
 
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Kelmitchell2

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So that jacket torts was wearing at the game last night, where can you buy that and how much is it? I've only seen the black letterman jacket

Also they better hope Brad Shaw has no aspirations to be a head coach.
Weren't there a number of teams rumored to be interested in him for vacant head coaching gigs?
 

Danko

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Let’s go with the hypotheticals here and Laughton, Walker and Seeler get moved out. Who replaces them? Unless the guys at LV have been fooling around, there’s not much there to bring up. Bring back Brink and return Cates to center where he does not do that well? Bring up Attard, Belpedio or Andrae? Belpedio might do ok. Play a cooked Staal?
The problem is that Lappy hasn’t been able to bring along the guys at LV that the big club needed to be ready for the show after the TDL. Specifically Desnoyers, Attard and Andrae. The mess with the Phantoms is a major problem that needs to be addressed asap.

Low Term nhl defenseman either included in trades or free agent signings that you can flip if they improve or have value to another team. Get picks in return next year or year after.
 

GKJ

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So that jacket torts was wearing at the game last night, where can you buy that and how much is it? I've only seen the black letterman jacket


Weren't there a number of teams rumored to be interested in him for vacant head coaching gigs?
I think so
 
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