Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Jersey Fan 12]

Woah, Nellie, talk about going off the deep end (the opposite side of the pool of most of the posters here).

To be a Cup contender, you have to do a lot more than win a game or two in February, you have to have a team that has a viable chance of going 2-3 playoff series deep, that requires both talent and depth.

The talent is better than advertised, TK, Farabee and Tippett are all scoring at 1st line rates, Frost flashes 2C potential (consistency is his issue), Couts and Atkinson are solid veterans, Cates and Foerster could make a real jump with a true 3C. But no 1C, no 3rd C, no 1st pair D-men, no backup goalie and a young goalie that hasn't shown he can carry a big workload. That ain't a SC contender.

They're still 3 years away, they're adding talent (curious to see how Wheeler rates them with Gauthier gone), they have a bunch of draft picks the next two years. But they're not close to being ready to go toe to toe with a top team in a PO series.

You're saying Flyers are flawed and I completely agree.

That being said, which of the teams in the East aren't?

Sergachev going down is a huge blow to the Lightning and if, as some people here claim Ristolainen is a third pairing defenseman (preposterous) that speaks volumes for Drysdale, Sandheim and York. Other than Carolina, which has huge issues in goal, is there a team in the East that is deeper on the blueline?

Both the Rangers and the Bruins drop off sharply after their top two. The same cannot be said of the Flyers.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Considering the Flyers just beat the defending Eastern Conference champions in their own building and have 40 points - the same as those said conference champions - how is it they aren't "Cup contenders"?

Certainly, the loss of Carter Hart stings but with so many young players in the lineup it stands to reason that as a team they should only improve with experience.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

It's always so fun when the New Jersey fan comes in here to tell Flyers fans that they're wrong about the team that they watch every day.

Live in New Jersey. The state not the team. Closer to Philadelphia than Newark.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Considering the Flyers just beat the defending Eastern Conference champions in their own building and have 40 points - the same as those said conference champions - how is it they aren't "Cup contenders"?

Certainly, the loss of Carter Hart stings but with so many young players in the lineup it stands to reason that as a team they should only improve with experience.

lol

Check out how many centers and proven starting goalies they have, for one thing.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It's always so fun when the New Jersey fan comes in here to tell Flyers fans that they're wrong about the team that they watch every day.

I think it's funny and positive how he's always ended up being wrong in the end every time he does this. I admire this refusal to learn and adapt. Truly the Flyers Way. He can be an honorary Titan.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Live in New Jersey. The state not the team. Closer to Philadelphia than Newark.

 

[Rich Nixon]

You're saying Flyers are flawed and I completely agree.

That being said, which of the teams in the East aren't?

Sergachev going down is a huge blow to the Lightning and if, as some people here claim Ristolainen is a third pairing defenseman (preposterous) that speaks volumes for Drysdale, Sandheim and York. Other than Carolina, which has huge issues in goal, is there a team in the East that is deeper on the blueline?

Both the Rangers and the Bruins drop off sharply after their top two. The same cannot be said of the Flyers.

The Columbus Blue Jackets won 50 games in 2016-17. At no point were they Cup contenders.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

It's always so fun when the New Jersey fan comes in here to tell Flyers fans that they're wrong about the team that they watch every day.

wait... so ur saying if we beat a good time once they arent just giving us the SC ?

hold up boys!!! parades cancelled apparently...

Zing.... post meme of the day winner!!!!

 

[Kelmitchell2]

You're saying Flyers are flawed and I completely agree.

That being said, which of the teams in the East aren't?

Sergachev going down is a huge blow to the Lightning and if, as some people here claim Ristolainen is a third pairing defenseman (preposterous) that speaks volumes for Drysdale, Sandheim and York. Other than Carolina, which has huge issues in goal, is there a team in the East that is deeper on the blueline?

Both the Rangers and the Bruins drop off sharply after their top two. The same cannot be said of the Flyers.

Ok fine, we will trade risto to your devils for nemec since you think he's so good, sounds fair, thanks for stopping by

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Ok fine, we will trade risto to your devils for nemec since you think he's so good, sounds fair, thanks for stopping by

Nemec, Marino or Bahl. No. The others? Make an offer.

 

[Beef Invictus]

So he's not actually all that valuable after all.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Risto has become a solid RHD.

People continue to act like he’s Keith Yandle.

Risto has been pretty meh the last 2 weeks, before that - if you remove the contract - he was a solid 3rd pair dman.

He hasn't really deserved a scratch all year - I pray someone takes his full contract

 

[Magua]

So he's not actually all that valuable after all.

Positive vibes vs. revolutionary positivity.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Lots of Risto chatter today from different reporters.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Lots of Risto chatter today from different reporters.

Were they making fun of his haircut and kankles

 

[GKJ]

DiMarco is dropping stuff today, but I feel like the only new thing to discuss is that he has the Canucks in on Risto. It does make sense because depending on what you think of some of their other guys, they only have 3 NHL D signed after this season, one of them is Noah Juulsen, and Hronek is RFA. I don't know what Tucker Poolman's future is, but that would be money the Canucks would want to move.

Laughton and Edmonton I've brought up before, that makes sense to me, but may also require taking salary back, which is also fine with me. There's been some ambiguity around Connor Brown's structure, because he had a 10GP bonus that he hit, which means he'll have an >$3M overage next year, even though he is UFA this year, but knee injuries have cooked him. What I'm not sure was clarified was whether or not the overage travels with him, but I saw cold water poured on that. That may mean they have to move Cody Ceci, who is signed for next year near the overage number. It may also mean the Flyers would have to retain on Walker.

Walker was also linked to Tampa Bay, and that was before Sergachev got hurt. One thing about the BriseBois at the trade deadline is that he doesn't miss his #1 target. No 1st until 2026, but I'm willing to roll the dice and see if that ends up being a top 6-12 pick.

 

[BritainStix]

Can you imagine if Briere manages to trade Risto for a positive asset.

Also, Di Marco knows f*** all. He's a fake insider.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

DiMarco is dropping stuff today, but I feel like the only new thing to discuss is that he has the Canucks in on Risto. It does make sense because depending on what you think of some of their other guys, they only have 3 NHL D signed after this season, one of them is Noah Juulsen, and Hronek is RFA. I don't know what Tucker Poolman's future is, but that would be money the Canucks would want to move.

Laughton and Edmonton I've brought up before, that makes sense to me, but may also require taking salary back, which is also fine with me. There's been some ambiguity around Connor Brown's structure, because he had a 10GP bonus that he hit, which means he'll have an >$3M overage next year, even though he is UFA this year, but knee injuries have cooked him. What I'm not sure was clarified was whether or not the overage travels with him, but I saw cold water poured on that. That may mean they have to move Cody Ceci, who is signed for next year near the overage number. It may also mean the Flyers would have to retain on Walker.

Walker was also linked to Tampa Bay, and that was before Sergachev got hurt. One thing about the BriseBois at the trade deadline is that he doesn't miss his #1 target. No 1st until 2026, but I'm willing to roll the dice and see if that ends up being a top 6-12 pick.

Let's say the Canucks have serious interest in Risto for the reasons here. I just looked at their cap situation and I think we'd have to either retain or take back salary. Looking at their roster I am not sure who they would use as a cap dump. Most of their players are either what I would assume are core pieces (not sure exactly who VAN actually considers core pieces just my assumption) or don't make that much. That means retention would probably be the only option. I know people are hesitant to retain salary on multi year deals, but if they are offering something valuabel for him in exchange for retaining salary of let's say $2.5 million for the next three years, I think you do it. Otherwise I am not sure the numbers work out.

Just messing around on CapFriendly if we took back Zadorov. I assume that wouldn't work since they just traded for him this year so I imagine they want to keep him, but his contract got it under without having to retain. Not sure who else would be a salary dump.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Risto and Myers lol.

He'd be in the playoffs finally though.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Has the GM and coach finally soured on Risto? Seems pretty quiet on that front.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

lol

Check out how many centers and proven starting goalies they have, for one thing.

 

[TheKingPin]

Is it accurate to say Risto is healthy scratched for a trade tonight? I think he’s played a lot recently right?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Is it accurate to say Risto is healthy scratched for a trade tonight? I think he’s played a lot recently right?

"illness"

 

[usahockey22flyers]

DiMarco is dropping stuff today, but I feel like the only new thing to discuss is that he has the Canucks in on Risto. It does make sense because depending on what you think of some of their other guys, they only have 3 NHL D signed after this season, one of them is Noah Juulsen, and Hronek is RFA. I don't know what Tucker Poolman's future is, but that would be money the Canucks would want to move.

Laughton and Edmonton I've brought up before, that makes sense to me, but may also require taking salary back, which is also fine with me. There's been some ambiguity around Connor Brown's structure, because he had a 10GP bonus that he hit, which means he'll have an >$3M overage next year, even though he is UFA this year, but knee injuries have cooked him. What I'm not sure was clarified was whether or not the overage travels with him, but I saw cold water poured on that. That may mean they have to move Cody Ceci, who is signed for next year near the overage number. It may also mean the Flyers would have to retain on Walker.

Walker was also linked to Tampa Bay, and that was before Sergachev got hurt. One thing about the BriseBois at the trade deadline is that he doesn't miss his #1 target. No 1st until 2026, but I'm willing to roll the dice and see if that ends up being a top 6-12 pick.

I would love to get my hands on that 2026 TBL first...

 

[deadhead]

You're saying Flyers are flawed and I completely agree.

That being said, which of the teams in the East aren't?

Sergachev going down is a huge blow to the Lightning and if, as some people here claim Ristolainen is a third pairing defenseman (preposterous) that speaks volumes for Drysdale, Sandheim and York. Other than Carolina, which has huge issues in goal, is there a team in the East that is deeper on the blueline?

Both the Rangers and the Bruins drop off sharply after their top two. The same cannot be said of the Flyers.

Back away from the bong, sir, slowly please.

Flyers are competitive, which is a long way from being a SC contender.

Now if you want to say they have more talent than many here give them credit for, I heartedly agree, they may not have an elite player until Michkov arrives, but they have 3 starters scoring at true 1st line rates, a solid defensive corp (again, no true 1st pair guy), and a potential top goalie.

But they don't have the depth of talent that top teams possess - now elite talent is overrated, or Edmonton and Toronto would have 3-4 Cups between them. But if you don't have 3 or 4 of these guys, you need one or two and a half dozen next tier guys.

Flyers are still 3-4 players away. Michkov, Bonk are a good start. If Barkey turns out to be real, better. (3) 1sts, (4) 2nds the next two drafts is nice ammunition to find starters. And once they build organizational depth, packaging a 1st, 2nd and prospect for a young starter in 2026 or 2027 could finish the rebuild.

But we're still 3 years way.