MIght be ok with it. The one thing Torts (maybe Shaw) HAVE done effectively is teach defense. So I'd be ok with taking those gambles on very offensively talented d-men to try and turn them into something.
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MIght be ok with it. The one thing Torts (maybe Shaw) HAVE done effectively is teach defense. So I'd be ok with taking those gambles on very offensively talented d-men to try and turn them into something.
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Walker has shown well this season. He’s going to want a significant boost in salary and term coming up. So will Bouchard if he settles down with his play. The only advantage in that part of the trade is Bouchard is younger. The rest of the deal is Hart for the DC and a salary dump.
For me the deal would be Hart and Seeler for Bouchard, Skinner and the DC. The DC won’t be a high one once Edmonton gets its act together. The Flyers don’t need Skinner. They already have one salary dump goalie in the system.
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Oilers are going to overpay and overpay significantly for a goalie and know it. They don’t have a choice. They want Hart or any other higher end goalie their first this year is automatic in any deal. They want to include Campbell will cost a couple more first. If it’s Skinner they will have to include a second and they will have to include more if they want to add a d man.
The Oilers are willing to get bent over in a deal if they get the goalie they want. Not sure Hart is a good target for them though. Playing in basically your hometown doesn’t end well for many Canadians. Can’t leave your home.
The Oilers are willing to get bent over in a deal if they get the goalie they want. Not sure Hart is a good target for them though. Playing in basically your hometown doesn’t end well for many Canadians. Can’t leave your home.
The oilers are 16 pts behind the Canucks with 2 games in hand and 14 pts behind the Kings with the Kings having a game in hand. I think it’s a pretty good bet that if they do get into the playoffs it’s going to be as a wild card and they will have to face likely Colorado or Vegas in the first round.
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Can’t imagine McDavid and drai would just be okay punting on the season. Even with a goalie they could very easily be first found fodder against either of those teams.
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Meltzer in the Hockeybuzz comments said he thinks the Flyers would go for Hanifin if he was open to an extension here and his gut tells him they extend Walker.
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Trading Walker who is on pace for a career year at age 29 is one of the easiest layups a "rebuilding" team can get.
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But this is the Flyers. They don't understand probabilities. The Homer "just get in and yah never know", a Blues type run or Bruins getting Bergeron and Pasta types later in the draft. Do the minimum and get some luck is their plan.
They might think Hanifin and Walker is enough and the rebuild is done.
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So was trading Laughton and yet here we are. Good times.
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It took 20 Games to go from Definitely Rebuilding to buying multiple Defensemen in their late 20s at high points in their market value. 
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It will be interesting to see what they do.
Briere said just the other day they are not looking to add and they are not buyers.
Briere said just the other day they are not looking to add and they are not buyers.
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I can confidently say I am giving Briere a fair chance and a clean slate to prove his worthiness. But the Walker decision could quickly reverse that.
Walker is just such an obvious trade candidate. Even more so than Laughton - at least Laughton isn't a UFA. Walker is ripe for an overpayment at the deadline. Let a team overpay for an RHD UFA who is going to be the flavor of the week come the deadline.
Walker is just such an obvious trade candidate. Even more so than Laughton - at least Laughton isn't a UFA. Walker is ripe for an overpayment at the deadline. Let a team overpay for an RHD UFA who is going to be the flavor of the week come the deadline.
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I generally agree that Walker is a prime cadidate to trade for assets.
The other viewpoint I heard was that he may be a great bridge to Bonk, provided of course that they can sign him to 3 or fewer years.
Sanheim, Risto, and Walker on the right is decent.
That said, I would be happy if they do manage to flip him for assets.
What would be worth it in your mind? A 2nd rounder? I doubt he'd garner anything more than that, and I'm not sure we have anything better in the organization to develop and replace Walker on the right. Attard, maybe?
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A home run would be a 1st. A very strong deal would be a conditional 2nd that turns into a 1st. A strong deal would be a 2nd.
If there is some reality where Walker truly can't garner more than a 3rd at the deadline, I actually wouldn't mind re-signing him and revisiting a trade in 2-3 years when his value is a bit more established. I just don't actually believe that no team wouldn't cough up at least a 2nd for an RHD UFA at the deadline, though.
Maybe when Bonk is ready in 2-3 years we can use whatever pick we acquired for Walker in.a package to trade for an actual longer term solution on the right side. It'd be naive to think Walker is our only chance at a partner for bridging Bonk into the NHL (Besides, let's see Bonk even knock on the NHL's door first before we start making rebuild decisions around sheltering him)
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The first thing with Walker is his health since his knee has been a major issue for a while. Second is his performance. Is what we have seen out of him so far this season sustainable? If the answers to his issues are positive, then anything less than a #1 DC is not enough to get him.
Top four RHDs are usually not available and have a premium price. Remember when looking at his play this season; it's been on a ****ty team with a lousy defense. If he continues to shine he's a major value to a contender or any club for that matter.
Top four RHDs are usually not available and have a premium price. Remember when looking at his play this season; it's been on a ****ty team with a lousy defense. If he continues to shine he's a major value to a contender or any club for that matter.
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It wouldn't surprise me if they were thinking this, but it's a perfect example of how not to build a team. It's assuming success of marginal prospects.
For the sake of argument, let's assume that's the track they take. That means they have taken the assets Walker could return in a trade, plus the cap space he eats up, plus the multiple years not spent looking for a long-term solution and bet all of those on a guy who is at best a coin flip to ever be an effective piece let alone high up in your lineup. At best. And that has nothing to do with Bonk. It's what late 1sts actually are.
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The issue with Walker is he’s 29 years old playing by far & away the most ice time/usage he’s received in his entire career to this point. He’s mostly floated as a third pair to depth defender prior to this year having the ups & downs that comes with it. It’s also been 20 some games so far but even if it extends to the deadline that doesn’t particularly make me feel anymore confident in likely paying the contract to retain him given all the risk associated with it & where the team currently sits.
This is a type of situation is where the Flyers generally get burnt overvauling sample sizes & ultimately secondary/depth players at their peak market value.
A smart organization in this position whether they were rebuilding or competing for a championship would take what they got out of this year on the ice & walk away from the future of it whether that be a trade at the deadline or letting the player walk UFA.
This is a type of situation is where the Flyers generally get burnt overvauling sample sizes & ultimately secondary/depth players at their peak market value.
A smart organization in this position whether they were rebuilding or competing for a championship would take what they got out of this year on the ice & walk away from the future of it whether that be a trade at the deadline or letting the player walk UFA.
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Bonk in 2-3 years? We are still talking about the Flyers? The last 3 first round defenseman.
1) tried to play as winger
2) broke out at 26/27 despite the org never playing him to strength/Risto
3) started out as a potential Norris winner and got worse every year
1) tried to play as winger
2) broke out at 26/27 despite the org never playing him to strength/Risto
3) started out as a potential Norris winner and got worse every year
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You 100% trade Walker. He's playing well but his value to us in a trade is much better than re-signing him to a dumb contract. Players like him are a dime a dozen.
Totally agree.
Sell while the price is at it’s highest
You have Attard in Lehigh, who I’m not a big fan of, on a 1 way deal next season.
And, even though a small sample size, I think Belpedio showed very well in the games that he played and he’s still up as Flyers are carrying 8 D right now and he’s signed for next season also
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If Walker gets 3 x $4m, it's a pretty pricey right side. Mainly because Risto would be a $5.1m 3rd pair dman.
You also know that Torts and Jones will be determined to extend Seeler.
If they don't trade Walker that's malpractice. Even if all they get is a mid rounder
I feel if Bouchard could be had by Edmonton...Briere has to make it happen. 24 is still really young for a Dman and they need a guy on D with his upside. Any available D or C at his age with top line potential should be at the top of their list...bc that doesnt happen often.
This is how good GMs work. They prey on desperate teams at the right time.
In 3 years:
York (25)- Bouchard (27)
Andrae (24)-Sanheim (30)
Thats a young prime defense to get excited about.
This is how good GMs work. They prey on desperate teams at the right time.
In 3 years:
York (25)- Bouchard (27)
Andrae (24)-Sanheim (30)
Thats a young prime defense to get excited about.
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