Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[snoop88]

you people will find a way to argue about anything

it's comical to pop into this forum once a week and see the same people still arguing over an irrelevant flyers team for months and months on end. there has to be a better use of your time. there just has to be.

I'll be back in 2025 when Michkov comes over to join Celebrini.

 

[deadhead]

Please feel free to continue to intentionally misrepresent what the majority of us define as rebuild and tanking. You know the things that you called tanking in the past but now claim is rebuilding as if you’re some savant.

They’re already laying the groundwork to call this mission accomplished and cut the whole thing short. To steal a quote from you, “you’re blind, deaf, and dumb” if you don’t recognize that.

All Jones has said is he hopes it happens sooner than later.
What do you expect him to say?
"We think it'll take 5-7 years, but in the meantime pay up for a shitty product?"

The problem with Hextall is he had a mandate to rebuild from Snider, traded Kimmo and Coburn at the 2014 deadline, and other than that, only made minor trades to pick up a couple 3rd rd picks (Rinaldo and McGinn) and a few later picks (Vinnie, Cousins) until the summer of 2017.

That's the mistake I hope they avoid, keep adding picks in the 2024-26 drafts so you have a steady supply of prospects through the end of the decade. And you can compete and still add picks (see Carolina), by trading players as prospects emerge and take their jobs.

Will they do this? I have no clue. So far so good, but there's a long way to go.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Or you could just ignore the depressed whiners who complain about imaginary issues?

I don't know if Briere/Torts will make this work, but if you don't see them doing differently, you're blind, deaf and dumb. There's an emphasis on team speed.

It's just that a certain contingent believes if you're not tearing it down and tanking, you're not rebuilding. Which is crap.

The question isn't whether they're rebuilding, the question is whether, unlike Hextall, they're committed to sticking with the rebuild for an extended period. And only one way we'll find out.

It is the long-term commitment, rather than the specific approach, that matters.

The teams that flub rebuilds tend to declare mission accomplished too soon, go out and sign big money FAs (and/or trade for them) and get themselves into cap hell without building NHL and prospect pipeline depth.

Which issues are imaginary? The bad scouting, bad development, bad coaching, bad talent level? The nonexistent rebuild? The refusal to give young players any chance?

Which of those are made up? I'll assume if you don't answer that none of them are and you are admitting I'm right.

 

[Beef Invictus]

All Jones has said is he hopes it happens sooner than later.
What do you expect him to say?
"We think it'll take 5-7 years, but in the meantime pay up for a shitty product?"

.

Chicago just proved that this works. It'll certainly work better than the delusion driving the Flyers.

 

[GKJ]

Lots of talk about coaching and advisors. This is a rumor and news thread, no one in this thread should give a shit about that other stuff until there is actual news or reporting surrounding it.

Elliotte’s writing tonight:

32 Thoughts: RFA updates and training camp notes

In the latest 32 Thoughts, Elliotte Friedman shares the latest on RFAs Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, what the Flyers are trying to get from the Senators, and much more.

www.sportsnet.ca

“2. The good thing for Ottawa is Philadelphia likes Mathieu Joseph as a player. They see a fit. The bad news is that it doesn’t mean the Flyers will make it easy. They’ve got the leverage and aren’t afraid to use it. They want a high-level prospect or maybe the first-rounder sent by Detroit in the Alex DeBrincat trade. To this point, Ottawa’s not willing to do that. It’s a poker game. San Jose is another team I’ve wondered about.”

 

[tnfrs]

Lots of talk about coaching and advisors. This is a rumor and news thread, no one in this thread should give a shit about that other stuff until there is actual news or reporting surrounding it.

Elliotte’s writing tonight:

32 Thoughts: RFA updates and training camp notes

In the latest 32 Thoughts, Elliotte Friedman shares the latest on RFAs Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, what the Flyers are trying to get from the Senators, and much more.

www.sportsnet.ca

“2. The good thing for Ottawa is Philadelphia likes Mathieu Joseph as a player. They see a fit. The bad news is that it doesn’t mean the Flyers will make it easy. They’ve got the leverage and aren’t afraid to use it. They want a high-level prospect or maybe the first-rounder sent by Detroit in the Alex DeBrincat trade. To this point, Ottawa’s not willing to do that. It’s a poker game. San Jose is another team I’ve wondered about.”

if briere can bring a first in then its worth making room for joseph, i imagine something would have to be going back to ottawa maybe wade allison since hes no longer waiver exempt anyway i think and ottawa can still sign Pinto.

id consider that a win even it means foerster starts the year in lehigh

 

[BillDineen]

Lots of talk about coaching and advisors. This is a rumor and news thread, no one in this thread should give a shit about that other stuff until there is actual news or reporting surrounding it.

Elliotte’s writing tonight:

32 Thoughts: RFA updates and training camp notes

In the latest 32 Thoughts, Elliotte Friedman shares the latest on RFAs Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, what the Flyers are trying to get from the Senators, and much more.

www.sportsnet.ca

“2. The good thing for Ottawa is Philadelphia likes Mathieu Joseph as a player. They see a fit. The bad news is that it doesn’t mean the Flyers will make it easy. They’ve got the leverage and aren’t afraid to use it. They want a high-level prospect or maybe the first-rounder sent by Detroit in the Alex DeBrincat trade. To this point, Ottawa’s not willing to do that. It’s a poker game. San Jose is another team I’ve wondered about.”

Not sure where he would "fit" in

 

[Redpath]

There is a huge discrepancy between a high-level prospect/1st round pick vs. Tyler Boucher.

 

[GKJ]

if briere can bring a first in then its worth making room for joseph, i imagine something would have to be going back to ottawa maybe wade allison since hes no longer waiver exempt anyway i think and ottawa can still sign Pinto.

id consider that a win even it means foerster starts the year in lehigh

Ottawa can’t take back anyone

 

[Beef Invictus]

Best thing to do with Joseph is flip him for more picks.

 

[Mickey the mouse]

Best thing to do with Joseph is flip him for more picks.

If he was so easy to flip Ottawa would have done that

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The Flyers do love themselves some fourth line players with term.

 

[tnfrs]

Ottawa can’t take back anyone

well dang, i figured theyd be getting something

 

[deadhead]

Joseph is a LW, so he would be an easy fit. He's also played center.

Very good skater, forechecker, PK, his problem is finishing, but he'd be a solid bottom six player, just overpaid for that role. Never developed enough offensive skill for a middle six role.

They could also then flip Joseph or Laughton, either retain or take a contract back that a PO team wants to shed.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

you people will find a way to argue about anything

it's comical to pop into this forum once a week and see the same people still arguing over an irrelevant flyers team for months and months on end. there has to be a better use of your time. there just has to be.

I'll be back in 2025 when Michkov comes over to join Celebrini.

Didn’t read past you people .

 

[macleish1974]

A quote from Broadstreet Hockey comment in which I laughed out loud......

" The Flyers are like the Titanic without the Band.......with Chuck Fletcher as the Iceberg"


I thought it was effective as comedy relief. But here is The Band, apropos song........

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Joseph is a LW, so he would be an easy fit. He's also played center.

Very good skater, forechecker, PK, his problem is finishing, but he'd be a solid bottom six player, just overpaid for that role. Never developed enough offensive skill for a middle six role.

They could also then flip Joseph or Laughton, either retain or take a contract back that a PO team wants to shed.

Joseph is a rw with a left handed shot

 

[Beef Invictus]

No I'm talking about the Sens taking him. If the Flyers get him I don't think anyone is going to argue the connection didn't play a role. I am just saying I don't think the Sens were in any way influenced by the fact that he's Boucher's kid.

I think it is unwise to ever underestimate the power of names in the NHL. Lots of kids get drafted where they shouldn't chiefly because of name value.


I don't know their process so I'm not gonna claim it's the only reason, but I bet it's a major one.

 

[Beef Invictus]

A quote from Broadstreet Hockey comment in which I laughed out loud......

" The Flyers are like the Titanic without the Band.......with Chuck Fletcher as the Iceberg"


I thought it was effective as comedy relief. But here is The Band, apropos song........

My man, I had this picked out as the GDT song tonight. Wonderful stuff. Actually laughed out loud.

 

[tnfrs]

introducing your new era orange

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Who. In the living f***. Is Furry?

 

[Rebels57]

you people will find a way to argue about anything

it's comical to pop into this forum once a week and see the same people still arguing over an irrelevant flyers team for months and months on end. there has to be a better use of your time. there just has to be.

I'll be back in 2025 when Michkov comes over to join Celebrini.

This

 

[tnfrs]

Who. In the living f***. Is Furry?

he was with the phantoms at the end of the season and just never went home

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

introducing your new era orange

Guaranteed shutout.

 

[deadhead]

Brendan Furry (25), C, 6'0 205, Minnesota State

3 years in the USHL, 3 years in college as an older (22-24) player. Captain his junior season.

"I think he's one of the best players we've played against all season," Powers said. "He's outstanding. I think his game translates to the highest level. He does everything right. He's got hard skill. Not a lot of people talk about him."

He’s a big and strong centre who plays a tough two-way game and has been a rock for Minnesota State in his time with the Mavericks. Furry has the work rate with the combination of skills to potentially be a bottom-six player in the NHL one day. It’s likely that Furry is already at a level where he would be an impact player in an AHL lineup.