Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[pooch]

I really cant see Hart being involved in something like this, but I guess you never know.

 

[LegionOfGloom]

If Briere isn't going to trade him or any of the other players that will hurt our pick meaningfully, maybe Hart getting suspended for the upcoming season wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Here it comes....



If NHL names and suspends players allegedly involved, affected players would likely appeal any sanctions to an arbitrator, as per CBA, and may pursue defamation lawsuits vs league, said agent of one player who attended 2018 Hockey Canada gala.

(While an investigating officer in October wrote in court documents he believes there are grounds to charge at least five players, police in London continue to decline comment other than to say an investigation is ongoing.)

This still doesn't say, or imply, when the report is actually coming out...

 

[Flyerfan4life]

This still doesn't say, or imply, when the report is actually coming out...

something about this just feels like they are trying to bury it

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

If Briere isn't going to trade him or any of the other players that will hurt our pick meaningfully, maybe Hart getting suspended for the upcoming season wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

If and that is a huge if Hart is implicated in the disgusting incident, I want Hart’s contract terminated. I have zero tolerance for that kind of stupidity.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

If all these guys in the media are starting to talk about it, it’s probably any day now at this point. From what ASF has said there isn’t a hard date because the league is likely gonna dump it at an opportunistic time where the least amount of eyes are on it as possible. But he’s been saying some time in July has always been the word. He said teams wanted it to be released in June before the draft/free agency but obviously the league had other plans.

 

[ajgoal]

something about this just feels like they are trying to bury it

Welcome to the NHL.

 

[SuchySays]

Que the overreaction from HFBoards

 

[prototypical4thliner]

On their defense, imagine trying to promote a team when:

The only prospect with superstar potential won’t arrive til 2026 or perhaps never

The coach is arguably the biggest asshole in the NHL

The medical staff is incompetent

The GM has no experience

The team president was hired because he knows a lot of people and is fun at parties.

The owner is a multi billion dollar conglomerate that might not even be aware that they own an NHL franchise

Good luck!

Where is our disadvantage.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Que the overreaction from HFBoards

What is being overreacted to at this moment?

 

[Fight4yourRight]

If and that is a huge if Hart is implicated in the disgusting incident, I want Hart’s contract terminated. I have zero tolerance for that kind of stupidity.

Pretty much. If that ends up being the case, get him the f*** off this team.

 

[Flybynite]

I really cant see Hart being involved in something like this, but I guess you never know.

I know it's a pretty common response to situations, but learned a long time ago to never bother saying this.

There are very few people in your life who you actually 'know', and celebrities, athletes are almost always not on that list (unless you're related to one).

You usually see what people want you to see. I've had relatives that I've sat across a table from do shocking things. I've had friends I thought I was close to who seemed completely fine and happy suddenly take their own life.

So some random athlete having been part of a group sexual assault type situation with alcohol likely heavily involved? Can't really say it shocks me whoever is named.

 

[renberg]

If I'm wrong, please correct me. So much of the reporting of this incident so far has been hazy but I don't recall Hart giving a clear and hard denial regarding his possible involvement in these things.
The things that the Flyers have been doing with goalies over the last six weeks sure do look as if they are preparing for not having Hart around either by trade or suspension. Picking up Petersen from the Kings is a salary dump but then with Hart and Ersson on the roster as well, it makes no sense to carry three NHL caliber goaltenders. Sandstrom can go back to LV but putting one of the other three down there with him makes no sense. Add to this the signing of Kolosov and possibly still being able to get Fedotov along with the drafting of a couple more goaltenders and it looks like someone is leaving Philadelphia.

 

[RANKKA]

If I'm wrong, please correct me. So much of the reporting of this incident so far has been hazy but I don't recall Hart giving a clear and hard denial regarding his possible involvement in these things.
The things that the Flyers have been doing with goalies over the last six weeks sure do look as if they are preparing for not having Hart around either by trade or suspension. Picking up Petersen from the Kings is a salary dump but then with Hart and Ersson on the roster as well, it makes no sense to carry three NHL caliber goaltenders. Sandstrom can go back to LV but putting one of the other three down there with him makes no sense. Add to this the signing of Kolosov and possibly still being able to get Fedotov along with the drafting of a couple more goaltenders and it looks like someone is leaving Philadelphia.

Rumor: - Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

does anyone actually know when the report is coming out? July-ish

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

If I'm wrong, please correct me. So much of the reporting of this incident so far has been hazy but I don't recall Hart giving a clear and hard denial regarding his possible involvement in these things.
The things that the Flyers have been doing with goalies over the last six weeks sure do look as if they are preparing for not having Hart around either by trade or suspension. Picking up Petersen from the Kings is a salary dump but then with Hart and Ersson on the roster as well, it makes no sense to carry three NHL caliber goaltenders. Sandstrom can go back to LV but putting one of the other three down there with him makes no sense. Add to this the signing of Kolosov and possibly still being able to get Fedotov along with the drafting of a couple more goaltenders and it looks like someone is leaving Philadelphia.

His agent put out a statement denying culpability which was filled with a bunch of lawyer talk with a bunch of grey area.

 

[pooch]

I know it's a pretty common response to situations, but learned a long time ago to never bother saying this.

There are very few people in your life who you actually 'know', and celebrities, athletes are almost always not on that list (unless you're related to one).

You usually see what people want you to see. I've had relatives that I've sat across a table from do shocking things. I've had friends I thought I was close to who seemed completely fine and happy suddenly take their own life.

So some random athlete having been part of a group sexual assault type situation with alcohol likely heavily involved? Can't really say it shocks me whoever is named.

I dont disagree with anything you said.

 

[trostol]

what comes first..this report of the TDA trade?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

What is being overreacted to at this moment?

imagine thinking this isnt something to react to...

 

[Larry44]

something about this just feels like they are trying to bury it

Hockey Canada isn't going to get away with burying it, so the NHL is going to have a hard time ignoring the report. The entire HC Board and Mgmt got fired by the Canadian Government, which pulled its funding over the hush money payment slush fund.

Also, the London Police are doing a criminal investigation. It's not just a she said-they said, apparently there is a bunch of evidence, i.e. text messages/voicemails documenting that the players involved realized they did something very wrong and tried to smooth it over and hush her up. Lots of ambiguity and I really feel for the woman, who originally said she didn't want the players to be punished.

HC will likely issue lifetime bans on playing for Team Canada to all the players in the room. That's almost a given anyway; they are all already prohibited pending. The NHL is going to have to do something, whether long suspensions, i.e. one or two years, or pending the outcome of a criminal trial, which could take years, or lifetime bans.

It's not going to be pleasant, whatever happens.

 

[renberg]

His agent put out a statement denying culpability which was filled with a bunch of lawyer talk with a bunch of grey area.

That’s as I remember it as well. One would think that if he was clean in this mess that he would have issued a strong denial.

 

[BillDineen]

This has some of the texts:

 

[CutOnDime97]

If I'm wrong, please correct me. So much of the reporting of this incident so far has been hazy but I don't recall Hart giving a clear and hard denial regarding his possible involvement in these things.
The things that the Flyers have been doing with goalies over the last six weeks sure do look as if they are preparing for not having Hart around either by trade or suspension. Picking up Petersen from the Kings is a salary dump but then with Hart and Ersson on the roster as well, it makes no sense to carry three NHL caliber goaltenders. Sandstrom can go back to LV but putting one of the other three down there with him makes no sense. Add to this the signing of Kolosov and possibly still being able to get Fedotov along with the drafting of a couple more goaltenders and it looks like someone is leaving Philadelphia.

More players step forward in Hockey Canada sex assault investigation

Coyotes defenceman Connor Timmins is the 14th player from Canada’s 2018 world junior team of 22 to comment publicly. Some have proclaimed innocence. Most have promised co-operation.

www.thestar.com

From lawyer Scott K. Fenton, speaking for Clague, Bean and Hart: “None of the players you reference engaged in any wrongdoing, all of the players co-operated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, and all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing.”

 

[Larry44]

More players step forward in Hockey Canada sex assault investigation

Coyotes defenceman Connor Timmins is the 14th player from Canada’s 2018 world junior team of 22 to comment publicly. Some have proclaimed innocence. Most have promised co-operation.

www.thestar.com

Did the police REALLY clear those players of wrongdoing? I'm not sure if that's just lawyer speak or verified.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Did the police REALLY clear those players of wrongdoing? I'm not sure if that's just lawyer speak or verified.

Guess we will find out

 

[PALE PWNR]

If Briere isn't going to trade him or any of the other players that will hurt our pick meaningfully, maybe Hart getting suspended for the upcoming season wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

That would mean he was complicit in the rape and assault of a girl. There aren't much worse things in the world.

I read somewhere that the players suspected to have been implicated were Alex Formenton, Sam Steel, Max Comtois, Tyler Steenburgen, Drake Batherson, Michael McLeod, Boris Katchouk and Brett Howde. So hopefully Hart isn't added to the list.