Not true, WE learned that they haven't learned anything in the past 20 years.
I hope you're right, dead. At the same time, it would be peculiar in the face of the leaked (planted?) trade offers.
Are you saying the Hayes deal wasn't rushed and bad on account he had to be out the door asap? Not to mention the almost deal for TDA that was the same situation.
IF that rumor was true, the offer for Laughton was probably #29 and Toronto's 2nd rd pick next year, which will probably be 50+.
I think it is too early to make those calls. There are reports of what was offered but we don't know really what the circumstances were or are. Trying to trade Sanheim to me shows they are looking at a rebuild. Both things can be true, Sanheim is on Torts' shit list and he needs to be traded for the rebuild. It's funny to me that people here love to believe tweets and media reports when it says something happened that is in line with what they think happened, and then when other reports come out people here love to say the media is making it up or it isn't true or whatever.
Sanheim got benched in his home town and he still has no idea why. No one even talked to him about it. He’s not the kind of player that should really ever be benched. That’s like someone telling their wife they want a divorce bc she’s not Megan Fox. Sanheim is not super consistent and not a #1. His being traded is much more in line with Hayes and TDA moves than anything else. We are obviously talking now so yea views could change in a month. But that’s only if Harts traded and hear the Laughton return is less than we heard and that TK has low ball offers. It’s all unlikely.
Definitely not arguing about Sanheim being Torts' shit list. That's pretty clear. But he needs to go regardless. Sanheim has been here for literally almost a decade now. He is what he is, a decent second pair defender signed to a long term deal over $6 million AAV. If the Flyers signed a guy that was 27 with a similar profile to the same deal people would be calling for Briere's head (and probably saying 'he's 6'3" that's why they want him!'). He has no value for the tank and no value long term here. If someone will take him I'd be fine trading him for nothing to get rid of the contract, which will likley become harder to do as time passes unless he all the sudden turns into a better defenseman while playing on a worse team. On a contending team he has value. Here he does not and won't for the duration of the tank. I honestly thought he and Provolone would be traded last season.
He will do well next year and then have value. I agree moving him before the NTC was the right move, but not for nothing. He will be better next year and can then be moved. He controls that, but I think he would be fine going home.
This seems backwards. Sanheim, a 27 year-old defenseman who throughout his career has basically remained stagnant on a huge contract (both in terms of dollars and length) will increase in value, but TK, a player that is younger and on a friendlier contract that has consistently improved and is now the focal point of the offense, will decrease in value? Neither of these guys factor in long term. They both should be dealt.
Or maybe multiple firsts or a first and a good prospect. We have AMPLE time to trade these guys. Sure a late first and another second would have been nice, but JFC we made ten picks already in the draft this year you want two more? The rebuild was never going to take one off-season or one draft. If I'm GM I am hoarding picks for the next several drafts. Very unlikely outside of the Neck and Hart that any of our players would return a first other than Farabee who I think they should keep. Now we have ammo to get more picks in next year's draft and the following year. Spread it out. If someone was going to pay a 1st for Laughton at the draft, they're going to be willing to pay that at the TDL. TK should be able to rack up points as the only real established offensive threat and his value will increase.
