Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[GKJ]

I'm sure there's a few fans who cried into their pillows about Kane being traded on the last year of his deal -- it was hyperbole. By and large? I'd wager they're fine with it. They want a rebuild, they got one, and it's looking mighty fine.

The elephant in the room is this: they're not good business people, not in this realm anyway. They're too emotional, too insular, too fanboy-ish, too unwilling to admit what they don't know. I'll repeat myself: is it good business long-term to turn off an entire generation of Flyers fans because of rotted expired pride? You'd think every other team in every league doesn't have the same issues when they go through a rebuild -- that it's only the Flyers. They have their bad contract, good vets they can parade. They have young players. Someone who isn't a die hard Flyers fan doesn't know who the f*** Scott Laughton is. And a majority of us don't even care. Are we also saying the business end has roster control (or should)? I doubt it -- I think hockey ops is stupid enough to do this on their own.

They appear emotional to fans because they think it’s what they want. They’re still business people running a business at the heart of this, and they still need to meet or exceed profit margins, and they’re going to make someone pay their price to eschew any dollar they lose. The reason that they’re doubling down on rebuilding proud history right now is because that’s where the money is right now. Charlie ran the poll where, by a pretty healthy margin, Torts remains the most credible person to the fans in the organization, more than Jonesy I believe, more than Briere. They are still going to compelled to service the people who are giving them money because they need those people to keep doing it, because the reality is they don’t need to be a contender, they only need people dumber than we are to believe that.

 

[trostol]

Is Danny making at least 17 calls?

 

[WIP CALLER]

Laughton is gone before end of first round

Sweet I'm going to use this post for my twitter account. Trying to get in on the clout chasing.

"Heard from an assistant regional GM that there's a good chance that Laughton is gone before the end of the first round tonight. It's a fluid situation and things could change but that is what may or may not happen. Buckle up to be safe. #fueledbyphilly"

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Can't believe we are debating the value of keeping Laughton in the 1st year of a "rebuild".....when a 1st and 2nd appear to be on the table.

What f***ed up era is this?

welcome to the new old Orange..

I would love Zegras here just to watch Torts head explode.

Z. would be in the AHL...

Torts would never use him

 

[BringBackHakstol]

They appear emotional to fans because they think it’s what they want. They’re still business people running a business at the heart of this, and they still need to meet or exceed profit margins, and they’re going to make someone pay their price to eschew any dollar they lose. The reason that they’re doubling down on rebuilding proud history right now is because that’s where the money is right now. Charlie ran the poll where, by a pretty healthy margin, Torts remains the most credible person to the fans in the organization, more than Jonesy I believe, more than Briere. They are still going to compelled to service the people who are giving them money because they need those people to keep doing it, because the reality is they don’t need to be a contender, they only need people dumber than we are to believe that.

Or stop being scared and actually try to build your customer base? Business 101 is you need to grow and adapt or you will be left in the dust.

These dummies will die off and no one will be left to foot the bill

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Laughton is gone before end of first round

We better hope so

 

[TheKingPin]

We don't what the offer was, rumors is late first #29 and Toronto's 2nd in 2024, 50+.
But that hasn't been confirmed, and a lot of these rumors turn out to be false.


The "young" players in Seattle and Vegas were in their early to mid-20s, i.e., Farabee, Tippett, Frost, Cates, Foerster, types.
Those teams were not lead by a bunch of 19-20 year high draft picks.

For the expansion team, you are talking about early to mid career guys that when given a shot do well. There’s no reason to keep Laughton or others to show them the way.

The Rangers weren’t bad for a while though. They got Lafreniere making a similar jump that we did.

But those are even tougher odds. Best to put yourself in the best position to succeed getting high end talent. That’s 1OA

The lack of rumors is comforting to me. There no way we aren’t talking to other teams. They are all prob talking a shit load right now.

 

[GKJ]

Or stop being scared and actually try to build your customer base? Business 101 is you need to grow and adapt or you will be left in the dust.

These dummies will die off and no one will be left to foot the bill

Those people aren’t going to care that they waited an extra year-plus to trade these guys.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

For the expansion team, you are talking about early to mid career guys that when given a shot do well. There’s no reason to keep Laughton or others to show them the way.



But those are even tougher odds. Best to put yourself in the best position to succeed getting high end talent. That’s 1OA

The lack of rumors is comforting to me. There no way we aren’t talking to other teams. They are all prob talking a shit load right now.

Don't assume, they may feel that they're now ready to "compete" this is a torts led flyers team, so they're obviously not smart

 

[GKJ]

For the expansion team, you are talking about early to mid career guys that when given a shot do well. There’s no reason to keep Laughton or others to show them the way.



But those are even tougher odds. Best to put yourself in the best position to succeed getting high end talent. That’s 1OA

The lack of rumors is comforting to me. There no way we aren’t talking to other teams. They are all prob talking a shit load right now.

With all the GM’s together face to face there isn’t a lot to leak

 

[deadhead]

Notice how few "real" trades there were the last week.
Dubois, Colton (2nd), Toffoli (3rd, 3C type), Newhook (#27, #29). Durzi (2nd).
More than last year, but I expect the action will heat up the next few hours, though some deals will be contingent on certain players being on the board.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Well the opposite of his expectations usually happens, so I guess trades are pretty much done.

 

[ponder719]

Sweet I'm going to use this post for my twitter account. Trying to get in on the clout chasing.

"Heard from an assistant regional GM that there's a good chance that Laughton is gone before the end of the first round tonight. It's a fluid situation and things could change but that is what may or may not happen. Buckle up to be safe. #fueledbyphilly"

Strap your buckles in, and buckle your straps up, we may have a doozy on our hands. NEO-Flyera, baby.

 

[TheKingPin]

With all the GM’s together face to face there isn’t a lot to leak

Yea and I feel like this was true in the past. Then you hear and sometimes see so and so GM at the other teams table on the floor. We will see.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

ASF said the internal belief amongst the front office is they can get this turned around in three years.

 

[LegionOfGloom]

ASF said the internal belief amongst the front office is they can get this turned around in three years.

With all the terrible contracts on this team, it will take them three years just to get to where an expansion starts.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

ASF said the internal belief amongst the front office is they can get this turned around in three years.

Essentially they’re willing to write off this off-season & next but that’s it in terms of taking steps back potentially.

 

[Tarpongg]

ASF said the internal belief amongst the front office is they can get this turned around in three years.

Yea we can just pick up an extra pick or two and turn this right around. No need to be aggressive, we have our culture.

Nashville has 8 picks in the first 3 rounds alone for reference

 

[bauer]

Dear Danny

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Essentially they’re willing to write off this off-season & next but that’s it in terms of taking steps back potentially.

There’s interest around the league for Ristolainen still but the Flyers aren’t interested in parting with him at this moment. Keith Jones is a big driver of Ristolainen’s value to the team.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

ASF said the internal belief amongst the front office is they can get this turned around in three years.

Utterly shocking stuff.

This isn't a rebuild and they're not building a single thing "the right way."

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Utterly shocking stuff.

This isn't a rebuild and they're not building a single thing "the right way."

The best was ASF relaying these things as if it’s a good thing.

 

[BernieParent]

Not happening. Ask yourself - why were they trying to trade for and keep Krug? Why is Keith Jones running around telling everyone they will be competitive sooner than later? Why are they trading Torts dog house guys and not the players that actually have real value?

The answer is- this is a fake rebuild. They are not tanking nor rebuilding. They want to be competitive and maybe actually sneak in a playoff run. This is Fletcher retool 2.0.

Fred-unmasking.gif Rebuild / Retool

 

[freakydallas13]

Utterly shocking stuff.

This isn't a rebuild and they're not building a single thing "the right way."

As we feared, the much proclaimed "rebuild" was a farce. This organization doesn't know what that word means.

 

[Curufinwe]

Utterly shocking stuff.

This isn't a rebuild and they're not building a single thing "the right way."

Trading your top three dmen for cap dumps, picks and prospects would definitely be rebuilding. And nothing like what Fletcher did.