Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

The Rangers weren’t bad for a while though. They got Lafreniere making a similar jump that we did.

They also fell ass backwards into Panarin and Fox. I doubt that happens to us...

 

[04hockey]

When will the poor flyers get some luck?

with their drafting history ??

NEVER

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Can't believe we are debating the value of keeping Laughton in the 1st year of a "rebuild".....when a 1st and 2nd appear to be on the table.

What f***ed up era is this?

The funny thing is Kevin Hayes is about if not more of an overall effective player than Laughton as in like middle of the lineup role. He’s on a similar caphit now to Laughton as well for St. Louis. He just went for 2024 sixth rounder.

That essentially shows you how inflated Laughton’s truth worth is currently with that price. You can find cheaper alternatives if you do your homework out there.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They've made it clear this is a 3-5 year process (at some point it stops b/c you run out of players to trade, it's pointless to be trading 20-22 year old players to draft 18 year olds!). So they're probably not in the same hurry that fans on this board are to clear out everyone. They may well want to keep a few players this year and move them next summer after some more prospects arrive.

Chicago got lucky, they had a 11% change of getting Bedard, if they end up picking 4th3rd, I doubt anyone would be pointing at them as a role model. NJ got the 1st pick twice. You can't count on that, especially the Flyers, who tanked once and got lucky once and ended up with JVR and Patrick.

Based on what we've seen so far, it's going to be a 30-50 year process before this methodology lucks into results.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They've been upfront saying they don't expect to make the playoffs for 3 years (they've repeated this about 10x). I believe they believe in that pulled out their ass timeline. Long-term I think you're right: they have no plan to contend. When they get tired of being bottom 10ish, while still having no stars (of their own doing) and not even reaching the criteria of half-measures, they'll pivot back to gunning for the 8th seed. Someone here said this today, but Tortorella's ego also cannot handle putrid seasons, and I doubt the good ol' boys front office can either. The guy took 2 weeks off coaching at the end of year 1. He's just savvy at politicking and selling himself, hence positioning himself as a voice of reason to not get lost in a front office swap.

I'm also positive they're holding onto their highest-value pieces who don't fit any real rebuild timeline because they're positive in Year 4 they're going to be good. It's just more of the same retooling. They think they are rebuilding, but they evidently don't know what that actually is.

 

[Evergreen]

Pastrnak was 25th overall in 2014

My mistake.

He was 25 OA. Literally a pick the Blues have for sale.

The move is to make now in 2023. The draft is strong. You also have more options. Like you get that late first this year and move up from 22 if someone drops.

If you have 3 1sts for a few years like the Blackhawks have then you’re going to be in a good spot. You are just setting yourself up the best you can.

The young guys need to be away from the old imo. These aren’t other sport players that have socioeconomic issues and risk of gun violence and street racing. At least not as much. I want these young guys to step in and be given an opportunity. We have seen that with Seattle and Vegas. Get people out of the way to see what you really have.

Fair enough. Like I said I would not be opposed to trading Laughton. And maybe you’re right that it’s better to do so now than at the deadline if we can get a late first and have an extra year for that prospect to develop.

 

[Winston Wolf]

I don't watch the Flyers to see them win; I watch to see them play with integrity and gumption. You just don't trade a generational grinder like Laughton.

 

[Beef Invictus]

How many more window opportunities is this organization gonna piss away with Laughton before they ultimately end up trading him at the end of his deal for like a mid round pick while the team accomplishes nothing of note during that entire time?

At first it was because they weren’t rebuilding. Now we supposedly are rebuilding but still cannot trade him because reasons. This is great an example of how the Flyers truly don’t understand how to run a modern front office. You’re treating a depth player like he’s a major difference maker which still isn’t a great sign for projecting this team going forward if that mindset is still prevalent.

Laughton and Seeler. They think these are core pieces. When in reality, right now, there are no core pieces. There is no core. There is only assets to consider selling if it brings about a better future.

 

[Tripod]

Based on what we've seen so far, it's going to be a 30-50 year process before this methodology lucks into results.

No no no.

THIS 3-5 years will be different. They said so.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

The funny thing is Kevin Hayes is about if not more of an overall effective player than Laughton as in like middle of the lineup role. He’s on a similar caphit now to Laughton as well for St. Louis. He just went for 2024 sixth rounder.

That essentially shows you how inflated Laughton’s truth worth is currently with that price. You can find cheaper alternatives if you do your homework out there.

I agree - Hayes sucks donkey ass, Laughton sucks donkey ass.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I don't watch the Flyers to see them win; I watch to see them play with integrity and gumption. You just don't trade a generational grinder like Laughton.

The current roster plans certainly look like one that would take Barkov over McDavid.

 

[deadhead]

The current roster plans certainly look like one that would take Barkov over McDavid.

Who was in the SC Finals?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Who was in the SC Finals?

While being pretty underwhelming most of the way…

 

[Beef Invictus]

@deadhead do you believe Barkov is better than McDavid just because Tortorella thinks that? Asking for a me.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

We don't what the offer was, rumors is late first #29 and Toronto's 2nd in 2024, 50+.
But that hasn't been confirmed, and a lot of these rumors turn out to be false.


The "young" players in Seattle and Vegas were in their early to mid-20s, i.e., Farabee, Tippett, Frost, Cates, Foerster, types.
Those teams were not lead by a bunch of 19-20 year high draft picks.

Mid 20s is fine, 29 is not mid 20s

 

[dragonoffrost]

The team needs a Trevor Zegras, not a Scott f***ing Laughton

I would love Zegras here just to watch Torts head explode.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

We really need an additional first, this draft is to deep to not go for more picks

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I have a feeling we're going to be using this a lot in the near future

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Where's all the rumors?

 

[WIP CALLER]

Where's all the rumors?

Someone finally told Jones to STFU

 

[Magua]

Laughton had the worst goal scoring and point producing 5v5 full season of his career. His value is through the roof. And yet.

 

[dragonoffrost]

You think we have them. 2 guys who just missed an entire season who we are to assume will return to their prior forms and not continue to get injured for an organization that has yet to prove they know how to do that.

Sounds like Toews to me...

 

[PDX Flyer]

And we will still have Couturier and Atkinson. No reason what so ever to hold onto Laughton and TK as well when we've received solid offers.

Why does everyone forget about our #1 Dman Ellis?

 

[saophim]

Laughton is gone before end of first round

 

[PDX Flyer]

If they miss the playoffs three more years, that's 3 more lottery picks (maybe 4 if Florida implodes) the next three years on top of Gauthier and #7.
Odds are they'll find a couple stars out of that group.

The same odds that landed JVR, Patrick and Provy?