Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Beef Invictus]

If you're rebuilding, you don't trade young players for draft picks (unless we're talking top 3). Makes no sense to trade someone who's a NHL player for a draft pick that might be a NHL player 3 years from now.

TK will be retired by the time this team finishes rebuilding.

Step 1) Fire every single person currently employed by the team. Start from scratch like an expansion team sans expansion draft
Step 2) Trade everyone
Step 3) Build from the ground up into respectability. This will take 10 years before things start to get good.

Alternative: Spend 5 years wasting time with Briere and Tortorella, then hope that 10+ year period begins; it won't.

 

[deadhead]

any and everyone is on the table as they have zero untouchables, never said just draft choices. You can make a hockey trade. Get a prospect or even "younger" player who is still on an ELC as an example.

Same issue.

The only reason you'd trade someone like Farabee is a player who'd be a better fit going forward, a 1RHD for example.
But since LW is a weakness in the Flyer organization, it would have to be a heck of a RHD or center to even consider it.

Which is why players like Hart, TK, Laughton, Provorov are more likely to be moved, trading a 26 year old RW for a package headed by a 22 year old player with more risk and more upside is a rebuilding move. Trading a 23 year old LW with a lot of upside for a 21 year old who is less proven doesn't make as much sense.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

TK will be retired by the time this team finishes rebuilding.

Step 1) Fire every single person currently employed by the team. Start from scratch like an expansion team sans expansion draft
Step 2) Trade everyone
Step 3) Build from the ground up into respectability. This will take 10 years before things start to get good.

Alternative: Spend 5 years wasting time with Briere and Tortorella, then hope that 10+ year period begins; it won't.

your facts check out..

oddly if you roll the years back to the 2010 run.

hey look the timeline fits almost perfectly. hell lets try it again. maybe itll work this time.

hahaaa

 

[Rebels57]

TK will be retired by the time this team finishes rebuilding.

Step 1) Fire every single person currently employed by the team. Start from scratch like an expansion team sans expansion draft
Step 2) Trade everyone
Step 3) Build from the ground up into respectability. This will take 10 years before things start to get good.

Alternative: Spend 5 years wasting time with Briere and Tortorella, then hope that 10+ year period begins; it won't.

It's pretty crazy that a a hypothetical expansion team coming in next season would already have a better shot at winning the Cup within the next 5-10 years than the Flyers, who spend to the cap, and have "unlimited" non-cap related resources. I would rather be an Atlanta Thrashers fan right now and they're only rumored to be returning a few years down the line. That's how dysfunctional this organization is thanks to Comcast and the Bullies.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Same issue.

The only reason you'd trade someone like Farabee is a player who'd be a better fit going forward, a 1RHD for example.
But since LW is a weakness in the Flyer organization, it would have to be a heck of a RHD or center to even consider it.

Which is why players like Hart, TK, Laughton, Provorov are more likely to be moved, trading a 26 year old RW for a package headed by a 22 year old player with more risk and more upside is a rebuilding move. Trading a 23 year old LW with a lot of upside for a 21 year old who is less proven doesn't make as much sense.

More likely yes based on timeline, will they? no imo as this is not the flyers way.

You just buy all the talk the 3 headed monsters spew. Those 3 in bold players they love and do not want to move them. No team is going to come banging on the door with an overpayment on any of them. Hart I am not sure, though I don't think they move him either. wont be shocked when they announce the Hart long term ext in a few months.

If Ivan is moved it is because he has asked to be traded.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It's pretty crazy that a a hypothetical expansion team coming in next season would already have a better shot at winning the Cup within the next 5-10 years than the Flyers, who spend to the cap, and have "unlimited" non-cap related resources. I would rather be an Atlanta Thrashers fan right now and they're only rumored to be returning a few years down the line. That's how dysfunctional this organization is thanks to Comcast and the Bullies.

The only thing those worthless decrepit mummies are bullying these days is their own team and fans.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Hextall:

Inherited

Giroux at age 26
Voracek at age 25
Simmonds age 26
Couturier age 21
Schenn age 23
Laughton age 20
Ghost age 21
Mason age 26
L Schenn age 26
Raffl age 25
Cousins age 21
Coburn age 29
Hartnell age 32

Chuck

Inherited

Giroux age 30
Voracek age 29
Couturier age 25
Simmonds age 30
JVR age 29
Konecny age 21
Ghost age 25
Provorov age 21
Sanheim age 22
Laughton age 24
Lindblom age 22 (gets cancer)
Patrick, age 19 (out of hockey with headaches)
Gudas age 28
Hagg age 23
Lehtera age 30
MacDonald age 31
Weise age 30
Hart age 20

Hextall inherited top players in their primes.

Chuck inherited top players at the ends of their primes, & a young core that failed to be of the same caliber to replace them.

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is the rumors thread. Not the thread for defending failures. We have other threads for that.

 

[bauer]

why are Farabee and Frost left off Chuck's list? also, the only top player is Giroux. part of the issue is that this team hasn't drafted a star player in 17 years. the scouting/development staff is abysmal.

 

[Curufinwe]

Eh, Richards and Carters were stars for a while. Not superstars, but stars.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

It's pretty crazy that a a hypothetical expansion team coming in next season would already have a better shot at winning the Cup within the next 5-10 years than the Flyers, who spend to the cap, and have "unlimited" non-cap related resources. I would rather be an Atlanta Thrashers fan right now and they're only rumored to be returning a few years down the line. That's how dysfunctional this organization is thanks to Comcast and the Bullies.

thats why i say dont sell the franchise... just fold it and buy a new expansion..

literaly be farther ahead then suffering as a Flyers fan

 

[Young Sandwich]

 

[FLYguy3911]

Damnit. You guys are late.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[FLYguy3911]

Better be a juicy first and or Clarke.

Wait why is LA retaining!?

 

[sa cyred]

Damnit. You guys are late.

That’s what… she said?

Edit: damn thought it said I’m late. Sigh

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Better be a juicy first and or Clarke.

Wait why is LA retaining!?

Dumping Walker/Petersen costs to sign Gavrikov to extension

Eating some of costs on Provorov helps them clear cap

 

[FLYguy3911]

Dumping Walker/Petersen costs to sign Gavrikov to extension

Eating some of costs on Provorov helps them clear cap

I would prefer the Flyers eat the Provorov salary, but I guess they don't have the cap. Thanks Chuck.

 

[sa cyred]

 

[Prongo]

Well absolutely f*** me silly they are going to rebuild this team the right way and need to make the most of it. Bout god damn time.

 

[bauer]

Eh, Richards and Carters were stars for a while. Not superstars, but stars.

they were drafted 3 years before Giroux in 2003.

 

[Philly Fanatik]

Would be nice to get Jack Campbell,Edmonton’s 2024 1st with Skyler Brind’Amour in package coming from Edmonton for Carter Hart.
Asking too much or what?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Skyler Brind’Amour is not property of Edmonton.

 

[DancingPanther]

Skyler Brind’Amour is not property of Edmonton.

Well yeah but in another 3 team trade obviously.

Got absolutely smoked in Battle royale yesterday

 

[FLYguy3911]

Got absolutely smoked in Battle royale yesterday

Practice on legend and BR is cake in comparison.