Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I don’t think it’s a formal request but John Gibson apparently told Anaheim management he’d be receptive to a trade out. He hasn’t been good in years but should have name recognition to carry some interest I’d imagine.

Hellebuyck along with seemingly the rest of Winnipeg‘s top players are apparently available as well. Both Gibson & Hellebuyck are in the final years of their contacts.

Friedman didn’t mention names but did say on his podcast yesterday the goalie market is starting to heat up around the league.

Hopefully we wait until all of them find new homes before we shop Hart. You know - the Chuck Fletcher Way.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Hopefully we wait until all of them find new homes before we shop Hart. You know - the Chuck Fletcher Way.

I fully expect the Flyers to do what they always do & straddle the line until the decision naturally makes itself with Hart.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I don’t think it’s a formal request but John Gibson apparently told Anaheim management he’d be receptive to a trade out. He hasn’t been good in years but should have name recognition to carry some interest I’d imagine.

Hellebuyck along with seemingly the rest of Winnipeg‘s top players are apparently available as well. Both Gibson & Hellebuyck are in the final years of their contacts.

Friedman didn’t mention names but did say on his podcast yesterday the goalie market is starting to heat up around the league.

gibson has 4 more years at 6.4 cap hit

flyers and pitt should talk about Hart. Add Ottawa as well. Does Edmonton have anything to offer for Hart? Leafs ( though think hart would fold in that pressure cooker)?

 

[Fight4yourRight]

gibson has 4 more years at 6.4 cap hit

flyers and pitt should talk about Hart. Add Ottawa as well. Does Edmonton have anything to offer for Hart? Leafs ( though think hart would fold in that pressure cooker)?

That’s probably not going to happen.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

That’s probably not going to happen.

agree

 

[renberg]

Skimming through the Penguins website here,gives one a sense of the delusion that there is in Pittsburgh. Because of the Dubas hire, there are some that feel that it's a given that Matthews will go FA and then sign up with Pittsburgh because of his supposed friendship with the new GM. That bunch really needs a coupe of decades in the trash can of the League. IF Matthews were to go FA, he'd be nuts to go to that shit hole of a city. LA or NY but not there. He's a big city guy and will be able to name and get his price in any city in the game.

 

[deadhead]

gibson has 4 more years at 6.4 cap hit

flyers and pitt should talk about Hart. Add Ottawa as well. Does Edmonton have anything to offer for Hart? Leafs ( though think hart would fold in that pressure cooker)?

Not sure Pitt has much to offer.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Not sure Pitt has much to offer.

2023 1st, grandlund, owen pickering I would do very easily; even add a pic or prospect if need be. Would Pitt?

 

[deadhead]

Wheeler on Pickering this winter:

Pickering’s offensive production still doesn’t jump out at you, and I felt (and feel) that No. 21 was a little too high for him in the draft, but there are plenty of things about him and his game that do jump out at you. He’s an extremely intelligent kid with a long, effortless skating stride that is atypical of a 6-foot-4 defenseman. He’s got an extremely smooth glide to his stride and through his pivots and backwards crossovers, moving from forwards to backwards with ease for a player his size. He’s still really lean and has struggled to add muscle to his frame, but his north-south game is impressive because of his first pass and skating ability. There’s some work to do to add elements to a smooth but unremarkable game inside the offensive zone but he was productive on a low-scoring team last year, has taken a step on a mid-table team this year, his point shot is hard, and his skating will carry him to the NHL. He’s not likely going to be a big point producer at the next level, but he should have two-way value as a second-pairing type at his ceiling and a third-pairing guy at his floor. Nobody who has ever spoken with him was surprised he was named Swift Current’s captain this year, either. Great kid.

Sounds a lot like a poor man's Sanheim. But the best the Pens have to offer.
Not sure he's really what the Flyers should be looking for right now, at least until and if Sanheim makes himself marketable.
Though #14 should be a good pick.

This would depend on the Pens deciding that Jarry wasn't their goalie going forward, Hart would cost a little more but has a better playoff record.
Joel Blomqvist is their goalie of the future, so they might decide Hart would be a good two year fix, then rebuild around Blomqvist.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Wheeler on Pickering this winter:

Pickering’s offensive production still doesn’t jump out at you, and I felt (and feel) that No. 21 was a little too high for him in the draft, but there are plenty of things about him and his game that do jump out at you. He’s an extremely intelligent kid with a long, effortless skating stride that is atypical of a 6-foot-4 defenseman. He’s got an extremely smooth glide to his stride and through his pivots and backwards crossovers, moving from forwards to backwards with ease for a player his size. He’s still really lean and has struggled to add muscle to his frame, but his north-south game is impressive because of his first pass and skating ability. There’s some work to do to add elements to a smooth but unremarkable game inside the offensive zone but he was productive on a low-scoring team last year, has taken a step on a mid-table team this year, his point shot is hard, and his skating will carry him to the NHL. He’s not likely going to be a big point producer at the next level, but he should have two-way value as a second-pairing type at his ceiling and a third-pairing guy at his floor. Nobody who has ever spoken with him was surprised he was named Swift Current’s captain this year, either. Great kid.

Sounds a lot like a poor man's Sanheim. But the best the Pens have to offer.
Not sure he's really what the Flyers should be looking for right now, at least until and if Sanheim makes himself marketable.
Though #14 should be a good pick.

This would depend on the Pens deciding that Jarry wasn't their goalie going forward, Hart would cost a little more but has a better playoff record.
Joel Blomqvist is their goalie of the future, so they might decide Hart would be a good two year fix, then rebuild around Blomqvist.

what is your expected return if Hart is moved at the draft? curious to hear.

Rebuilding isnt am option the Pens will pursue for at least 3 more years. IMO the best bet the flyers have of getting another somewhat high pick in 2023 may be with the pens.



Until Sanheim makes himself marketable? Your going to base acquiring someone on that? Flyers have plenty of holes so to me you look everywhere.

 

[Rebels57]

Skimming through the Penguins website here,gives one a sense of the delusion that there is in Pittsburgh. Because of the Dubas hire, there are some that feel that it's a given that Matthews will go FA and then sign up with Pittsburgh because of his supposed friendship with the new GM. That bunch really needs a coupe of decades in the trash can of the League. IF Matthews were to go FA, he'd be nuts to go to that shit hole of a city. LA or NY but not there. He's a big city guy and will be able to name and get his price in any city in the game.

One thing is for sure, he'd pick Pittsburgh a hell of a lot sooner than the Flyers.

 

[renberg]

One thing is for sure, he'd pick Pittsburgh a hell of a lot sooner than the Flyers.

I doubt that he would come to Philly but Pittsburgh? Come on; that isn't happening. The idea that Pittsburgh is some hockey mecca is a figment of someone's imagination. Before Mario showed Bettman the pictures that he had of him doing God knows what, that franchise was becoming a transfer candidate. Bettman's treatment of the Penguins what resurrected the NHL in that town. Philly may not be great but it's a better place to play in than Pittsburgh.

 

[Curufinwe]

I doubt that he would come to Philly but Pittsburgh? Come on; that isn't happening. The idea that Pittsburgh is some hockey mecca is a figment of someone's imagination. Before Mario showed Bettman the pictures that he had of him doing God knows what, that franchise was becoming a transfer candidate. Bettman's treatment of the Penguins what resurrected the NHL in that town. Philly may not be great but it's a better place to play in than Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh has made the playoffs every year but two since the 2005 lockout, and won three Cups, and now they are now owned by a huge corporation with a history of success in other sports. The Flyers are a sad joke by comparison.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

I doubt that he would come to Philly but Pittsburgh? Come on; that isn't happening. The idea that Pittsburgh is some hockey mecca is a figment of someone's imagination. Before Mario showed Bettman the pictures that he had of him doing God knows what, that franchise was becoming a transfer candidate. Bettman's treatment of the Penguins what resurrected the NHL in that town. Philly may not be great but it's a better place to play in than Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh is a proven winning organization, and the place isn't as bad as people here want to paint it. Sucks but its the truth

He very well may not go there, but it's definitely a possibility

 

[renberg]

Pittsburgh has made the playoffs every year but two since 2005 lockout, and won three Cups, and now they are now owned by a huge corporation with a history of success in other sports. The Flyers are a sad joke by comparison.

Yesterday's news goes on the bottom of the bird cage. It's what have you done lately and are going to do in the future? Take Crosby, Malkin and Letang off of the Penguin's roster and there's no edge going to Pittsburgh. AIR, the Penguins looked to be in the driver's seat for a PO position going into the last three games of the season and spit the bit; probably a hit of their future. Being owned by a big corporation? So what? Since when is Comcast going to take a back seat to Henry's clown show?

 

[Rebels57]

Yesterday's news goes on the bottom of the bird cage. It's what have you done lately and are going to do in the future? Take Crosby, Malkin and Letang off of the Penguin's roster and there's no edge going to Pittsburgh. AIR, the Penguins looked to be in the driver's seat for a PO position going into the last three games of the season and spit the bit; probably a hit of their future. Being owned by a big corporation? So what? Since when is Comcast going to take a back seat to Henry's clown show?

They'll try to win for 3 more years before even attempting to rebuild, and still do it faster than the dysfunctional morons in Philly.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I doubt that he would come to Philly but Pittsburgh? Come on; that isn't happening. The idea that Pittsburgh is some hockey mecca is a figment of someone's imagination. Before Mario showed Bettman the pictures that he had of him doing God knows what, that franchise was becoming a transfer candidate. Bettman's treatment of the Penguins what resurrected the NHL in that town. Philly may not be great but it's a better place to play in than Pittsburgh.

pitt is the city of champions. Philly is a bigger shit hole than Pitt. What is the cup count 5-2? Flyers are the red headed step brother when compared to the pens.

You sound like Meltzer. Why in bold?

Pittsburgh has made the playoffs every year but two since the 2005 lockout, and won three Cups, and now they are now owned by a huge corporation with a history of success in other sports. The Flyers are a sad joke by comparison.

Add Matthews and then Cooley they are back in it very quickly

Yesterday's news goes on the bottom of the bird cage. It's what have you done lately and are going to do in the future? Take Crosby, Malkin and Letang off of the Penguin's roster and there's no edge going to Pittsburgh. AIR, the Penguins looked to be in the driver's seat for a PO position going into the last three games of the season and spit the bit; probably a hit of their future. Being owned by a big corporation? So what? Since when is Comcast going to take a back seat to Henry's clown show?

comcast is a clown show and has been for a long time now.

 

[deadhead]

If you're a multi-millionaire, Philly is a better place to live, you're a limo ride from NYC, downtown Philly is a real city.
Pittsburgh is more a city for "real" people who don't have oodles of money to spend.

The Penguins are an old team, they have $20M in cap room, but haven't signed Jarry, need a half dozen forwards and a couple D-men, if they were to sign Matthews, they'd be thinner than Saran wrap.

 

[Curufinwe]

Yesterday's news goes on the bottom of the bird cage.

But you were just talking about this old news.

"Before Mario showed Bettman the pictures that he had of him doing God knows what, that franchise was becoming a transfer candidate."

 

[blackjackmulligan]

If you're a multi-millionaire, Philly is a better place to live, you're a limo ride from NYC, downtown Philly is a real city.
Pittsburgh is more a city for "real" people who don't have oodles of money to spend.

The Penguins are an old team, they have $20M in cap room, but haven't signed Jarry, need a half dozen forwards and a couple D-men, if they were to sign Matthews, they'd be thinner than Saran wrap.

downtown philly is now a disgrace. entire city a full blown shit show.

pens > flyers for the next 5 years. Lets revisit in 2028.

 

[TheWolfOfBroadStreet]

downtown philly is now a disgrace. entire city a full blown shit show.

pens > flyers for the next 5 years. Lets revisit in 2028.

I wont argue the 2nd point as I am completely without hope for the Flyers, but Philly is still 1000000x better than Pittsburgh. I found Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio to be very similar. Nice ballpark though, genuinely enjoyed that stadium.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Pittsburgh has made the playoffs every year but two since the 2005 lockout, and won three Cups, and now they are now owned by a huge corporation with a history of success in other sports. The Flyers are a sad joke by comparison.

yah one is a proud relevant NHL franchise! the other should be send down to the AHL!

perhaps they will have better luck down a league

They'll try to win for 3 more years before even attempting to rebuild, and still do it faster than the dysfunctional morons in Philly.

prolly win one last cup. #rebuild and still lap us again.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I wont argue the 2nd point as I am completely without hope for the Flyers, but Philly is still 1000000x better than Pittsburgh. I found Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio to be very similar. Nice ballpark though, genuinely enjoyed that stadium.

define better? what is the criteria? philly is a crime ridden black hole that will never get better.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Philly has nearly a 50% higher violent crime rate than Pittsburgh these days.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Philly has nearly a 50% higher violent crime rate than Pittsburgh these days.

plus they have eat and park