Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[bennysflyers16]

Only 96 hours left to trade Sanheim.

Gonna be awkward for him to stay after it came out they tried to give him away !!

 

[Rebels57]

I can't take much more of this. I am hanging out in Barcelona this week, so on a schedule 6 hours ahead of east coast time. Every single day is torture. Just make a goddamned move!!! I probably will wind up staying up most of the night tomorrow to follow the draft. I don't know why I do this to myself. At least I'm eating and drinking every day way better than anyone has any right to...

This is not healthy lol

As others have already said, who gives a shit about the Flyers when you're on vacation in Barcelona?

 

[GKJ]

Laughton is better than Hayes.

Hayes is similar to Johansen, who returned nothing.


Seems like a week ago we were all worried they were going to take Leonard or Reinbacher.

If they get him, this would be the exact opposite of what any Flyers old guard consortium would have ever advocated for. They would want someone they could run out there for all the alumni to pontificate about how he ‘reminds me of Clarkie.’ It really flies in the face of what anyone in the league would do honestly.

 

[bennysflyers16]

But what's the source? Probably other organizations that have been asked about the cost of moving up.
And he's probably not the only GM to make those phone calls, there are rumors about other teams trying to move up.

Me thinks this is simply the usual pre-draft information gathering, you don't wait until 15 minutes are left on the clock to make decisions, you do your homework pre-draft, have some hand shake agreements (if blah blah would you be interested . . . ).

Maybe Briere is a stone cold idiot, but so far there's no evidence to that effect.

He just BOTCHED his last 2 trades that fell through by letting everything leak.

He is 1 for 3 so far , but I guess that is miles better than Chuck

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

He just BOTCHED his last 2 trades that fell through by letting everything leak.

He is 1 for 3 so far , but I guess that is miles better than Chuck

This is simply not true. The Blues trade fell through because Krug used his NTC and vetoed the deal. This had nothing to do with the leaks. The CAR deal is on hold because the NHL deems it to be circumventing the player's association deal. Again, not because of the leaks. But by all means, lay the blame on Briere for EVERYTHING.

 

[renberg]

The reporting has been consistent since the day Briere took over that he’s wanted to move up in the draft, needed capital to do it, and is willing to trade NHL players to do it.

I do believe that Briere wants to move up in the draft. If he's putting the club into a position of having three first rounders to move in addition to other players such as Sanheim, TK, Hart and Laughton, Briere is not going for a swap for the Montreal pick. He wants Anaheim's-Fantilli. Three first rounders and those guys might be able to get it done.

 

[Rebels57]

He just BOTCHED his last 2 trades that fell through by letting everything leak.

He is 1 for 3 so far , but I guess that is miles better than Chuck

The St. Louis trade fell through because Krug wouldn't waive his NTC.

The Carolina trade fell through due to the CBA and might get ironed out still.

Not sure what happened last week though. Whatever it was, it might have fallen through because of leaks. I'm not sure why a trade would fall through because of leaks though. I guess another team could come in with a better offer to make one the teams second-guess?

 

[BrindamoursNose]

 

[bennysflyers16]

The St. Louis trade fell through because Krug wouldn't waive his NTC.

The Carolina trade fell through due to the CBA and might get ironed out still.

Not sure what happened last week though. Whatever it was, it might have fallen through because of leaks. I'm not sure why a trade would fall through because of leaks though.

That's my point, before it get's out that you are giving Sanheim away, clear these details first.

The leaks make us look Mickey Mouse that we will punt another guy before his contract even starts.

ie have the Blues confirm Krug will waive before the Flyers media start spewing shit.

And don't even get me started on not trading Hot Rod for the rumoured offer reported by real reporters.

 

[mr4tno]

I do believe that Briere wants to move up in the draft. If he's putting the club into a position of having three first rounders to move in addition to other players such as Sanheim, TK, Hart and Laughton, Briere is not going for a swap for the Montreal pick. He wants Anaheim's-Fantilli. Three first rounders and those guys might be able to get it done.

TK, Hart and SL suppoesedly would return at minimum 4 first rounders. So DB is going to trade 6 1st rounders for the right to draft 2nd? Either Mcdavid re-entered the draft of Chicago is not drafting Bedard....

What are the pros and cons of Moore vs. Benson?

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

That's my point, before it get's out that you are giving Sanheim away, clear these details first.

The leaks make us look Mickey Mouse that we will punt another guy before his contract even starts.

ie have the Blues confirm Krug will waive before the Flyers media start spewing shit.

And don't even get me started on not trading Hot Rod for the rumoured offer reported by real reporters.

So first you said Briere botched the trades, now you're saying Briere leaked the trades? Just trying to figure out which bullshit argument I'm supposed to reply to now.

 

[Pet Charles]

He just BOTCHED his last 2 trades that fell through by letting everything leak.

He is 1 for 3 so far , but I guess that is miles better than Chuck

Secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurt someone.

I don’t know who leaks information. Could be the Flyers, could be the Blues, could be neither, could be both, could be intentional, could be unintentional. So much unknown. The upside here is that the NHL clearly knows DB is open for business. It would be nice if he’s able to move assets to get picks for this draft, but it’s hardly the end of the world if that doesn’t happen because the offers weren’t good enough, or if it didn’t work out because of technicalities. The upside is that he’s not delusional enough to believe this team, constructed as it is, can compete like his predecessor believed. As you wrote, already miles better than Chuck. That might not be saying much because Fletcher was truly awful as GM, but baby steps. They’re at least interesting or on the road there.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Whatever the case, this many misfires are not really normal

Organization doesn't know how to do business

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

So first you said Briere botched the trades, now you're saying Briere leaked the trades? Just trying to figure out which bullshit argument I'm supposed to reply to now.

Does it ever get old defending this franchise?

And before you ask if it ever gets old trashing the franchise… no it doesn’t because they constantly give us new reasons to bash them.

 

[Rebels57]

That's my point, before it get's out that you are giving Sanheim away, clear these details first.

The leaks make us look Mickey Mouse that we will punt another guy before his contract even starts.

ie have the Blues confirm Krug will waive before the Flyers media start spewing shit.

And don't even get me started on not trading Hot Rod for the rumoured offer reported by real reporters.

Fair point. This does complicate things with Sanheim.

 

[bennysflyers16]

So first you said Briere botched the trades, now you're saying Briere leaked the trades? Just trying to figure out which bullshit argument I'm supposed to reply to now.

Briere is the GM, he should have that place locked down until the papers are faxed in.

It isn't a coincidence how Ant and Dimarco and these pukes are saying how fun it is having NHL talking about all these deals. I think this is part of Jones plan to be relevant.

Someone working for Briere is leaking or his boss did. Either way its bush league.

How does Sanheim come back knowing they don't value you and your coach hates you ?

 

[Redpath]

He just BOTCHED his last 2 trades that fell through by letting everything leak.

He is 1 for 3 so far , but I guess that is miles better than Chuck

There are two easy, verifiable explanations for why those two trades fell through. The leaking didn't cause the NHL to flag us for cicumvention and for Krug to not want to join a rebuilding team.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Fair point. This does complicate things with Sanheim.

That's all I care about. Could give 2 shits about Hayes and TDA, we have known all along they will be given away.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Does it ever get old defending this franchise?

And before you ask if it ever gets old trashing the franchise… no it doesn’t because they constantly give us new reasons to bash them.

There's plenty to trash the franchise about, and you're always there to volunteer to do so. But when there's so much material, and you decide to pick something that actually isn't Briere's fault, I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree.

 

[bennysflyers16]

There are two easy, verifiable explanations for why those two trades fell through. The leaking didn't cause the NHL to flag us for cicumvention and for Krug to not want to join a rebuilding team.

Bingo, things you could of known before blabbing it out to social media.

That should of been the FIRST thing to be confirmed, before any names ( Sanheim ) were even brought up

 

[Curufinwe]

Briere is the GM, he should have that place locked down until the papers are faxed in.

It isn't a coincidence how Ant and Dimarco and these pukes are saying how fun it is having NHL talking about all these deals. I think this is part of Jones plan to be relevant.

Someone working for Briere is leaking or his boss did. Either way its bush league.

How does Sanheim come back knowing they don't value you and your coach hates you ?

He already knew the coach hated him.

 

[Pet Charles]

I would love if they moved up in the draft but not higher than 7. Cost will be significant and this is a deep draft. I would rather they try and move up from 22 into the low teens. With a little maneuvering that seems a much more practical alternative. Some unexpected names are going to slide.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Bingo, things you could of known before blabbing it out to social media.

That should of been the FIRST thing to be confirmed, before any names ( Sanheim ) were even brought up

And the Blues were also leaking the deal...they were the ones who outed Krug as being the d-man STL was trading, and leaking that he didn't want to waive his NTC. This happens with ALL organizations. You pretending it's just the Flyers is both disingenuous and flat out inaccurate,

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I think Briere should hire Hextall to lock down the rumors and dissent

They'd look so good together...sweet Danny and miserable Hexy

 

[renberg]

TK, Hart and SL suppoesedly would return at minimum 4 first rounders. So DB is going to trade 6 1st rounders for the right to draft 2nd? Either Mcdavid re-entered the draft of Chicago is not drafting Bedard....

What are the pros and cons of Moore vs. Benson?

Peter Forsberg was traded by the Philadelphia Flyers with players to be named later, 1st round draft pick in 1993 (Jocelyn Thibault), $15,000,000 and future considerations (Chris Simon and Philadelphia's 1st round choice (later traded to Toronto - later traded to Washington - Washington selected Nolan Baumgartner) in 1994 Entry Draft, July 21, 1992), Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman and Mike Ricci to QBN (NHL) for Eric Lindros.

Now Fantilli isn't Lindros and $15M isn't exchanging hands but moving a load of first rounders in a deal for a top selection has precedence. Forsberg, Thibault, Simon, Huffman, Ricci and Baumgartner were all first rounders. Briere has talked about wanting to make the big splash this summer. Something like this would be it. Anaheim has the cap space and the talent need to make a deal like this.