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Blue Jays Discussion: The trade deadline approaches (Tue, Aug 2 at 6pm ET/3pm PT) and the market is taking shape

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trellaine201 said:
You guys realize if we get 2/3 good players its going to empty the top of the farm system. Montas alone will probably empty the cupboard.
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What do you think Montas's value is? Or, I guess, how bad do you think the Jays farm system is that you think they would have to empty it to get Montas?

He's a good pitcher, but he wouldn't return Moreno let alone a bunch of other good pieces.
 
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Montas won’t empty any cupboards, and neither would Happ.

Also don’t think Gregory Soto moves the needle. Poor control, not an exceptionally high K rate, gives up hard contact. Others have said Jimenez is a better get, I agree. Bass is also another option. Solid vet, not pricey, has been in the org before.
 
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Montas won’t require Moreno or a mix of top guys. Maybe Martinez and a few smaller pieces.
 
I'm not sure i want Montas given the shoulder concerns.

Ideally the Jays are just in there to jack the price up on the Yankees, let them bite the bullet and then you turn your attention elsewhere.
 
Eyedea said:
Montas won’t empty any cupboards, and neither would Happ.

Also don’t think Gregory Soto moves the needle. Poor control, not an exceptionally high K rate, gives up hard contact. Others have said Jimenez is a better get, I agree. Bass is also another option. Solid vet, not pricey, has been in the org before.
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Exactly. He's glorified Tim Mayza.
 
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Blitzkrug said:
I'm not sure i want Montas given the shoulder concerns.

Ideally the Jays are just in there to jack the price up on the Yankees, let them bite the bullet and then you turn your attention elsewhere.
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Id rather they go for lopez from miami. Price will be higher though
 
Blitzkrug said:
I'm not sure i want Montas given the shoulder concerns.

Ideally the Jays are just in there to jack the price up on the Yankees, let them bite the bullet and then you turn your attention elsewhere.
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Where else are you turning your attention to.
 
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As long as they don't pick up someone like a Quintana, who hasn't been good in like 5 seasons and then proclaim they're a better team i'll be happy.

Some of the moves i'd be okay with

Realistic:

Bednar/Reynolds package: Probably would cost a ton as alluded to a couple times in this thread, but it would essentially be a two birds with one stone type move. Gives you a high leverage reliver and a super good bat to give you more variance in the lineup

Robertson/Happ: Essentially the slightly lesser version of the above, largely because you're not getting the team control with Happ that you would with Reynolds.

Rodon/Joc: On the table now that the Giants are apparently facing reality. Great left handed bat with the bonus of having a decent postseason resume and Rodon is one of the best pitchers in the majors this season. You get Rodon for next season as well, negating the need to go shopping for pitching in the winter.

Pablo Lopez: Great younger arm that would fit great.

Unrealistic:

Tigers pitchers/relievers (Soto, Fullmer, Skubal): Would be great options but it sounds like the Tigers will only budge if someone overpays. Hence why i have it here.

That other Soto: I don't think he ends up moving before tuesday but that's a big boy trade i'd be more than willing to make. Gut the farm, and then immediately offer Soto 15/500 like he wants.

No chance in hell:

Shohei: The only way i see him moving is if the Padres actually do acquire Soto and the Dodgers get assmad and begin to feel like they need to make a countermove. Otherwise i stand by what i said before; he doesn't go anywhere before he's a FA.

I love Brian Reynolds so that's the move i hope they make but i understand while somewhat realistic, the price might be too high.
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Rodon has an opt out that he's almost certainly going to take. It's too bad we didn't sign him in the offseason. Most people here wanted him way more than Kikuchi
 
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Jays have scouts watching pablo lopez today. Hopefully this isnt the only game they are basing his talents on haha. 3 innings, 12 hits, 6 earned runs
 
The Dodgers and Padres are going to get into a dumbass bidding war over Soto.

That move doesn't seem like a Cardinal thing to do imo
 
Soto staying in the NL is a bigtime win for the Jays.

It would have been pretty disastrous if the Yankees traded for him.
 
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its going to be funny if the nats dont move soto. just holding up the nl teams from other moves cause they are consumed by acquiring him

personally i would think it would be in the nats best interest to send him to the a.l . im sure the fanbase would prefer to see him twice a year over half a dozen
 
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Soto staying in the NL is a bigtime win for the Jays.

It would have been pretty disastrous if the Yankees traded for him.
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Fair.

How the heck to you beat a Dodgers team with Soto for the Chip though?

That is one hell of a scary team. They will prob pick up Ohtani next year.
 
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