The Toronto Maple Leafs search for a new General Manager

[The Iceman]

I was thinking this exact thing too. Maybe shanny knows he'll lose pridham. The only way to not lose him is give him GM and trelving AGM. I don't think treliving would mind that either. Esp since he's buds with our owners lol

If you want to keep both give Pridham a raise and extension and name BT GM.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I still think my favourite candidate to replace Dubas is Brandon Pridham and to add a veteran GM to advise him as an AGM or whatever title works. Something similar to what Calgary did with Conroy and adding Nonis, and what Minny did with adding Shero as an advisor to Guerin.

Maybe making Pridham GM and Treliving his right hand man for the time being would work? This gives the Leafs a little more experience in the front office but still make the easier transition from Dubas to someone familiar.

I would be ok with that sort of arrangement, but I don't think that's the direction Shanahan will go.

 

[andora]

That Bergevin track record (outside of Drouin) is actually quite impressive. Drafts weren’t great but that’s more scouting staff than GM

Unless its dubas being dicussed ... just kidding but your post made me think of it

Unless its treviling.. oh this is easy

But anyway outside of that drouin.. no other youngin he has thrown away has done anything...thats a good thimg

 

[tokyoite]

bergevin was successful in chicago.
but in montreal ?

 

[Brobust]

Unless they're being really secretive. It seems like the MLSE board had only one guy in mind and were probably planning for this since last summer.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Friedman: Penguins Waiting For Kyle Dubas To Make A Decision

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May 27, 2023 32 Thoughts

Elliotte Friedman joins Ron MacLean to give the latest front office intel around the NHL, including the Pittsburgh Penguins' interest in Kyle Dubas and a host of teams making decisions on head coach vacancies.

 

[Superstar]

bergevin was successful in chicago.
but in montreal ?

Another poster reminded me he was the GM when the Habs overcame a 3-1 series deficit against the Leafs and went to the the finals. He's not my first choice, but arguably had better results than Dubas, lol.

 

[The Masters]

 

[Apex Predator]

Eric Tulsky moving up to second.

 

[Albz]

No updates today? Lol

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Doug Wilson and Doug Armstrong would be the top two names if either wanted to have a chat, for me.

 

[grapes55]

This sure is has morphed from oversight on major decisions (like any other org) to some kind of Orwellian fantasy of complete control.

Dube-anon sure is a powerful force in Leafland

I literally said Shanahan and the board oversee the operation, is that not the case? Given the issues with TFC I think it's fair to be concerned about ownership influence.

Freidman reported that to make a move, Dubas had to go to Shanahan who had to get board approval. Given that's the structure wouldn't it make sense to interview people with less experience to expand the pool?

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Bowman or Wilson .. 1 of those 2 guys please shanny .. forget da rich kid who lives da Muskoka life every summer .. sure you guys could boat up north but use summer to get R&R with your mom Shanny .. but smart .. this move in your last chance

 

[egd27]

I literally said Shanahan and the board oversee the operation, is that not the case? Given the issues with TFC I think it's fair to be concerned about ownership influence.

Freidman reported that to make a move, Dubas had to go to Shanahan who had to get board approval. Given that's the structure wouldn't it make sense to interview people with less experience to expand the pool?

To make any move, or to make a "significant" move?

Most organizations have authorization levels, and I'm certain it is no different at MLSE.

Shanahan and the Board wouldn't get involved in a Marlie call up or a waiver wire move, and most insignificant trades.
Dubas would likely give Shanahan a heads up on a mid level trade that only involves a set $ amount
Dubas would need approval for things like firing the coach, or signing a contract over a certain threshold (which most GM would need)

The "spin" that seems to be starting since the firing is that Dubas needed Board approval for any moves which is pure BS in my opinion. Why hasn't this been a bigger story for the past 5 years if this is how the operation works?

 

[SprDaVE]

From the latest 32 Thoughts

-Getting mixed intel about another person interviewed last week that they are unable to confirm at this time that is high on their list who can be considered a favourite aside from Treliving. It wasn't Chiarelli, Armstrong, Botterill or Hunter. Bergevin is overseas but had a zoom call with the Leafs, not him. They also spoke to Doug Wilson as well but it's not the person either. (My take: Probably Brandon Pridham)

-They made a lot of calls to many different people. There might be others but the one name they spoke face to face for sure with was Treliving, he was in Toronto last week.

-Shanahan told Keefe that he wants to leave it up to the new GM if they are keeping him.

-The candidates are asking the Leafs about what the top players are saying they want to do. We know Tavares wants to stay, but what about Matthews and Marner? What about their contract demands, etc. Basically trying to assess what they are getting into. They believe players want to stay, but it also depends on the new GM and their vision.

 

[hockeywiz542]

According to TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger:

- the Toronto Maple Leafs went pretty deep with Brad Treliving

- met with Brad Treliving early last week

- discussions with Marc Bergevin?

- Brendan Shanahan has talked to others

- could Peter Chiarelli actually be in the mix

- gets the feeling that Jason Botterill is not in the mix at all with Toronto

- is it a one-horse race?

- the longer this process drags out, the less likely Brad Treliving is hired as the Toronto Maple Leafs new GM

- Brendan Shanahan needs to hire an experienced GM for the Toronto Maple Leafs

- needle moves most likely maybe later this week

- 2 to 3 weeks at most to name a new General Manager for the Toronto Maple Leafs

Dreger on the latest around the Leafs' GM search, other potential candidates and more – TSN.ca

TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger joins us to chat about the latest on the Leafs' GM search, if candidates other than Brad Treliving have been interviewed, if a longer process makes it less likely Treliving is named GM, why he thinks the Pens job is Kyle Dubas' if he wants it and more.

 

[PromisedLand]

LMAO

skip lunch to log in and check on GM news and still waiting lol

At least they are not rushing so it’s a good thing I guess…

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Management believes Matthews, Nylander and Marner want to stay, but it all depends on the next gm.

Friedman thinks Treiliving might be the best candidate as he's handled a similar situation already that the Leafs are potentially facing.

 

[ShaneFalco]

According to TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger:

- the Toronto Maple Leafs went pretty deep with Brad Treliving

- met with Brad Treliving early last week

- discussions with Marc Bergevin?

- Brendan Shanahan has talked to others

- could Peter Chiarelli actually be in the mix

- gets the feeling that Jason Botterill is not in the mix at all with Toronto

- is it a one-horse race?

- the longer this process drags out, the less likely Brad Treliving is hired as the Toronto Maple Leafs new GM

- Brendan Shanahan needs to hire an experienced GM for the Toronto Maple Leafs

- needle moves most likely maybe later this week

- 2 to 3 weeks at most to name a new General Manager for the Toronto Maple Leafs

Dreger on the latest around the Leafs' GM search, other potential candidates and more – TSN.ca

TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger joins us to chat about the latest on the Leafs' GM search, if candidates other than Brad Treliving have been interviewed, if a longer process makes it less likely Treliving is named GM, why he thinks the Pens job is Kyle Dubas' if he wants it and more.

So he's throwing shit out there and hoping something sticks

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Management believes Matthews, Nylander and Marner want to stay, but it all depends on the next gm.

Friedman thinks Treiliving might be the best candidate as he's handled a similar situation already that the Leafs are potentially facing.

God it annoys me when I hear about MNM saying that it depends on the GM whether they stay or not. What other players in the league have given so many shits about the GM? Who do these guys think they are making these statements? Twerps.

 

[Martin Skoula]

God it annoys me when I hear about MNM saying that it depends on the GM whether they stay or not. What other players in the league have given so many shits about the GM? Who do these guys think they are making these statements? Twerps.

What statement did they make? Can you link me to what they said?

 

[Malachi Crunch]

What statement did they make? Can you link me to what they said?

Just referring to the posts above mine. I guess Friedman may have hinted at this?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Just referring to the posts above mine. I guess Friedman may have hinted at this?

Oh so no one made a statement and it’s just “management believes”.

 

[Brown Dog]

Seems odd that Treliving is the only real confirmed candidate but they've talked to him and this continues to drag out with no deal.

Doesn't it seem that if Treliving had blown them away in their meeting that this would be done already? Especially given the time constraints we are facing?

Or maybe they have reason to believe Nill is a possibility once Dallas is eliminated?

 

[notbias]

LMAO

skip lunch to log in and check on GM news and still waiting lol

At least they are not rushing so it’s a good thing I guess…

believe players want to stay, but it also depends on the new GM and their vision.

Yes, a great thing.

I don't want them to hire just anyone, but this may just mean there are not any good candidates too.

The names being floated around are terrible.