OT: The Thread About Nothing Part 190: Terrorists, Wild Trout, Microbeers, and Stuff

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Scott04

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Roy "Big Country" Nelson

Admittedly not a huge UFC follower. Was getting into it a few years ago in college because I went out and watched most of the PPVs with people, but barely have the last few years. I remember Chieck Kongo well from back then as he was early on in his career and was a total savage. Knew nothing of Nelson, but saw enough of how he looked and the size difference. Figured Kongo would beat him down somewhere.... Yeah... about that....
 

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The war criminals on the winning side rarely get caught or prosecuted, unfortunately. Nobody likes to talk about it, but there was lots of nastiness among the Allied armies too.

Russia was one of the Allied armies in WWII. And the chief perpetrator of "nastiness" (and horrors) on the allied side in WWII.
 

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Admittedly not a huge UFC follower. Was getting into it a few years ago in college because I went out and watched most of the PPVs with people, but barely have the last few years. I remember Chieck Kongo well from back then as he was early on in his career and was a total savage. Knew nothing of Nelson, but saw enough of how he looked and the size difference. Figured Kongo would beat him down somewhere.... Yeah... about that....

Nelson is one of the strangest successful fighters. His punch is the most lethal punch in all of UFC, never seen such power from someone.

Sonnen just got his ass handed to him by Jones who broke his big toe and didn't realize until it was over. It looked nasty.
 

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Russia was one of the Allied armies in WWII. And the chief perpetrator of "nastiness" (and horrors) on the allied side in WWII.

Perhaps, but we weren't exempt from it either. Nobody liked to talk about it for the longest time because of the Cold War.
 

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I met this dude at an archery shoot yesterday. Interesting to say the least...
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Perhaps, but we weren't exempt from it either. Nobody liked to talk about it for the longest time because of the Cold War.

I'm really not sure what you're point is? There are tens-of-thousands of combatants on each side, obviously some people are good people and some people are bad people in each and every army. I doubt anybody doesnt understand this. But if you want to talk about actual atrocities committed and tolerated, it's not accurate to suggest they were even remotely equal on all sides.


I met this dude at an archery shoot yesterday. Interesting to say the least...
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Renaissance actor?

The archery business is absolutely BOOMING right now. The combination of Hunger Games, Brave, that Marvel character, etc... has gotten tons of people involved. A new archery center opened in Hunterdon County within the last year, making it probably the first dedicated archery center to open here since......almost forever?
 

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Renaissance actor?

The archery business is absolutely BOOMING right now. The combination of Hunger Games, Brave, that Marvel character, etc... has gotten tons of people involved. A new archery center opened in Hunterdon County within the last year, making it probably the first dedicated archery center to open here since......almost forever?

Kind of a renaissance actor...I've been involved in archery all of my life and these guys show up to different events all the time...they all have different agendas. Some are looking to recruit, some are historians, some are looking for attention, some are actors and some are all of the above... this guy was more of a craftsmen who wanted to show all the things he hand crafted.

Most serious archers wouldn't give him the time of day, but that's not how I roll. I sat with him at a campfire for over an hour and let him show me all his wares. He handmade everything he had from his clothing to his bow to his knife. He shares his homemade mead and I gave him a shooting lesson.
 

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Hysterical QVC kitchen demonstration. Two different units of the product they're hawking just failed in about 30 seconds.
 

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Most serious archers wouldn't give him the time of day, but that's not how I roll.

The only bow I own is a very old recurve. I used to shoot a lot as a kid and up to about high school, but haven't shot it in years. Still have it, and the old arrows with feathers. Never got into the modern, fancy, compound wheeled bows with pulleys.

The question is why are you watching QVC?

The gf was, she never buys anything, but likes watching the kitchen segments. On this occasion, I enjoyed it too, it was hysterical. The sales people always smile and act so polite on camera, but you know as soon as the red light turns off they're ruthless bast**ds. Some poor stage hand probably got scalding hot coffee tossed in their face.
 

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The only bow I own is a very It's recurve. I used to shoot a lot as a kid and up to about high school, but haven't shot it in years. Still have it, and the old arrows with feathers. Never got into the modern, fancy, compound wheeled bows with pulleys.

What do you have?

Old bows are my bread and butter. They are my first love and there is probably nothing I know more about.

I collect old recurves. Right now I have 52 bows from 1969 to 1955. My dad has over 300, but some of his go into the 70's.

Old bows are special. There is a story in every one of them. We collect for sentimental reasons. We see them as functional art that tie us to our past. It is a weird thing and I don't expect anyone to understand.

People have offered my Dad thousands of dollars for some of his stuff and He finds the notion of selling these items upsetting.
 

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What do you have?

Old bows are my bread and butter.
They are my first love and there is probably nothing I know more about.

I collect old recurves. Right now I have 52 bows from 1969 to 1955. My dad has over 300, but some of his go into the 70's.

Old bows are special. There is a story in every one of them. We collect for sentimental reasons. We see them as functional art that tie us to our past. It is a weird thing and I don't expect anyone to understand.

People have offered my Dad thousands of dollars for some of his stuff and He finds the notion of selling these items upsetting.

I dont know anything about them, this is the only bow I've ever shot. It was one of my older brother's bows, he used it many years ago in High School Archery (is high school archery even allowed in New Jersey anymore given how puszified this state has become?), probably circa 1977, but it's older than that because he bought it used.

It's 64" long, and has a crossbow logo on it that says "Hoyt Scout", and there are some other numbers on it that I assume are model numbers or something. It appears to be made by hand. I say that because I'm familiar with violin making, and while it's obviously not the same (lol) it looks like there's wood inlay on it that serves (I think) the same function as purfling on a fiddle. I had fun shooting it in the backyard on bales of hay growing up, and I think the fact that it's harder to hit with older technology like recurves was part of the fun/history.
 

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Hoyt Scout. White glass on the front and the back and maple (white-ish wood like an ash baseball bat) riser...I believe they made it up go 40 pounds marked as 40#, but most popular weights wouldve been 30# and 35#...it was an entry level target bow sometimes called a collagent. Not very collectable it was made from the early 70's to the mid 70's...I don't think it was produced after 1975.. Hoyt is a great company based in ST Louis with ties to New Jersey. Anne Weber Hoyt, Earl Hoyt's wife was from Bloomfield NJ and they met there in Robin Hood Archery shop...cool bit of history.
 

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Hoyt Scout. White glass on the front and the back and maple (white-ish wood like an ash baseball bat) riser...I believe they made it up go 40 pounds marked as 40#, but most popular weights wouldve been 30# and 35#...it was an entry level target bow sometimes called a collagent. Not very collectable it was made from the early 70's to the mid 70's...I don't think it was produced after 1975.. Hoyt is a great company based in ST Louis with ties to New Jersey. Anne Weber Hoyt, Earl Hoyt's wife was from Bloomfield NJ and they met there in Robin Hood Archery shop...cool bit of history.

Wow, you know your stuff. Interesting that it's maple, it doesn't seem like maple. Mine is marked as 40# on it. And below that it says 28. What's interesting is it's all written in by hand (i.e. very low tech). But as someone familiar with the skill it takes to carve and mold wood from fiddles, the craftmanship on this grip is amazing. It's as if the handle was created to perfectly fit my hand. You almost dont realize you're holding a bow it's so comfortable in the hand.
 

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Illinois became the second state in America to hit > $100 Billion in unfunded pension liabilities last month.

I wish you could short state and local governments the same way you can short equities, I'd be rich.
 

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The "28" is the draw length. The weights are at 28'' draw It was common thought that 28'" is/was the average of an adualt male. Typically an inch is about 3 pounds (more like 2.5). So if you draw 27'' the #40 bow would actually be 37# and 43# if you draw 29''...so some makers would write 40#@28 or just 40# and it's assumed that the measurement is 28'".

The bowyer (maker) actually wrote the weight, draw and serial number on the bow. My dad can sometimes tell who actually made the bow from the writing.
 
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The bowyer (maker) actually wrote the weight, draw and serial number on the bow. My dad can sometimes tell who actually made the bow from the writing.

Is the serial number like a model number or just the chronological number of the bow of that model made?
 
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