Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part III (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

[Miamipuck]

Kakko

He gave a little TMI there.

 

[Hire Sather]

People saying Hughes is a generational player but will need a couple seasons to adjust?

Just kind of odd, no? Wasn't the case with Sid, Ovechkin and McDavid.

I don't like to hear that about a generational player.

Still expect Devils to take him.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

There’s literally nothing to be nervous about with who the Devils take

If they take Hughes, we get the most dominate u18 goal scorer in Liiga history

If they take Kakko, we get the most dominate player in USDP history

No losers here

DOMINANT

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

DOMINANT

Thank you

 

[nyr2k2]

People saying Hughes is a generational player but will need a couple seasons to adjust?

Just kind of odd, no? Wasn't the case with Sid, Ovechkin and McDavid.

I don't like to hear that about a generational player.

Still expect Devils to take him.

I have never thought Hughes to be a generational player. I always thought he'd be more of a Matthews or Tavares than a McDavid or Crosby. Not stylistically, just in terms of overall production. Although he could turn into a McKinnon, too, where after growing and adjusting over a couple seasons he absolutely explodes.

Either way, I've never considered him a generational guy. One of those guys who could score 1000 points and end up in the HOF, but not the truly generational talent.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

People saying Hughes is a generational player but will need a couple seasons to adjust?

Just kind of odd, no? Wasn't the case with Sid, Ovechkin and McDavid.

I don't like to hear that about a generational player.

Still expect Devils to take him.

Hughes isn't generational. The word "generational" is thrown around almost annually these days.

Generational: McDavid, Crosby and Karlsson (among D-men he's generational to me)
Franchise: Ovechkin, Matthews, Doughty, MacKinnon, Eichel and a few others

I would rank Hughes and Kakko in the franchise tier myself.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Hughes isn't generational. The word "generational" is thrown around almost annually these days.

Generational: McDavid, Crosby and Karlsson (among D-men he's generational to me)
Franchise: Ovechkin, Matthews, Doughty, MacKinnon, Eichel and a few others

I would rank Hughes and Kakko in the franchise tier myself.

Id consider Ovechkin as Generational but that's just imo

 

[nyr2k2]

Id consider Ovechkin as Generational but that's just imo

For sure, I was just going with centers.

 

[Levitate]

Id consider Ovechkin as Generational but that's just imo

He is absolutely a generational goal scorer. He's one of the top goal scorers to ever play the game.

Whether someone believes that's enough to be a generational player overall is a different argument.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Id consider Ovechkin as Generational but that's just imo

I have no problem with that. Point remains the same for me though. Hughes is not generational

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Just watched the game... Kakko is so much better than Hughes right now.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Watching Kakko in this tournament, it looks like he's out to prove something. Truly a beast out there.

The Rangers win either way.

If the Devils go Hughes, the Rangers take a force of a player who's ready to step into the league and dominate right away. He very well could even be better than expected.

If Devils go Kakko, then the story will be about how Hughes was passed up at #1 every time they line up and how Hughes will be out to prove the Devils that they made a mistake. More motivation for a consensus #1 pick - who's a more of a natural center than Kakko.

 

[Hire Sather]

Hughes isn't generational. The word "generational" is thrown around almost annually these days.

Generational: McDavid, Crosby and Karlsson (among D-men he's generational to me)
Franchise: Ovechkin, Matthews, Doughty, MacKinnon, Eichel and a few others

I would rank Hughes and Kakko in the franchise tier myself.

Fair enough

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I have never thought Hughes to be a generational player. I always thought he'd be more of a Matthews or Tavares than a McDavid or Crosby. Not stylistically, just in terms of overall production. Although he could turn into a McKinnon, too, where after growing and adjusting over a couple seasons he absolutely explodes.

Either way, I've never considered him a generational guy. One of those guys who could score 1000 points and end up in the HOF, but not the truly generational talent.

If he needs time to adjust, he's not generational. Generational means you are among the absolute best players in the game from the moment you enter the league as a rookie and throughout your career. So Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid(on track) and Malkin is a borderline case. That is all.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

If Devils go Kakko, then the story will be about how Hughes was passed up at #1 every time they line up and how Hughes will be out to prove the Devils that they made a mistake

I said this other day, would love to have an elite young player with a chip on his shoulder who truly hates the Devils haha

 

[Gardner McKay]

People saying Hughes is a generational player but will need a couple seasons to adjust?

Just kind of odd, no? Wasn't the case with Sid, Ovechkin and McDavid.

I don't like to hear that about a generational player.

Still expect Devils to take him.

People who use this word often don't understand what it means. I think Matthews and Eichel were better prospects than Hughes and I don't think either of them are generational.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I said this other day, would love to have an elite young player with a chip on his shoulder who truly hates the Devils haha

That can be Kakko as well. The way he's playing right now is showing that he thinks he should be #1.

 

[Inferno]

Hughes isn't generational. The word "generational" is thrown around almost annually these days.

Generational: McDavid, Crosby and Karlsson (among D-men he's generational to me)
Franchise: Ovechkin, Matthews, Doughty, MacKinnon, Eichel and a few others

I would rank Hughes and Kakko in the franchise tier myself.

Ovechkin has a chance to break Wayne Gretzky's goal record....if that's not generational...what is?

 

[cheech70]

I would like to see Kakko at Center..is that a possibility?..because Breadman does NOT miss that pass.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I would like to see Kakko at Center..is that a possibility?..because Breadman does NOT miss that pass.

I have no desire to see Kakko at center. He's a winger

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Hughes is not a generational player. There have like 20-25 in NHL history, and he ain’t going to be one of them.

If the Rangers take him, he has the potential to be the best player in franchise history. Still won’t make him generational unless he wins multiple Cups, multiple Harts, multiple Rosses - as in three or four or more.

 

[JT Kreider]

I said this other day, would love to have an elite young player with a chip on his shoulder who truly hates the Devils haha

Imagine how horrid it would be for the Devils if they pass on Hughes and Kakko is a bust and Hughes goes on to be a Hart generational center and reminds the Devils they passed on him every time we play them.

That would be franchise suicide.

 

[Lone Ranger]

Watching Kakko in this tournament, it looks like he's out to prove something. Truly a beast out there.

The Rangers win either way.

If the Devils go Hughes, the Rangers take a force of a player who's ready to step into the league and dominate right away. He very well could even be better than expected.

If Devils go Kakko, then the story will be about how Hughes was passed up at #1 every time they line up and how Hughes will be out to prove the Devils that they made a mistake. More motivation for a consensus #1 pick - who's a more of a natural center than Kakko.

Hughes will be rightly upset if he isn't selected first, but he'll also send Shero a fruit basket for reprieving him from playing in New Jersey.

 

[NernieBichols]

I watched the Wakey wakey Backes game on a nice spring day at an outdoor bar in little Italy.

 

[Edge]

Neither guy is a generational talent and I can't think of any trusted observer who would use those terms to describe either Kakko or Hughes at this point.

If they somehow reached that level, awesome. But that's not what the expectation is, or should be.