The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[toddkaz]

2 yrs older st 34 yrs old start the season. High risk of collapse. Nit a eise investment

When you factor buyout/ retention its using the same cap space

Laine is 26. Jeff Skinner is 32. Maybe stop using your phone to post.

You arent even close.

 

[Fjordy]

Laine kind of reminds me of Nishushkin in Colorado.

Lots of risk but also lots of reward if it pans out.

Good teams hit home runs with these types of players

I think there are probably a few different situations. I don't know exactly what's going on with Val, but I think he had some sleep issues.

Laine, on the other hand, had a rough time in Columbus. The guy lost his dad, he had some injuries, but he was still good when he was healthy. The guy just needs a change of scenery, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in Buffalo if they move on from Skinner.

 

[Dingo44]

Baker Fairburn Hockey Show 6/13/24 - Offseason prep: Which UFAs fit the Sabres?

Let's talk a few UFAs

www.youtube.com

 

[OkimLom]

Laine is 26. Jeff Skinner is 32. Maybe stop using your phone to post.

You arent even close.

That post wasn’t about Laine.

 

[HaNotsri]

Which of our players do you think are good sell high candidates?
I know it won't happen but I'd be willing to trade Byram and Peterka for the right players (Andersson, JEE, Cirelli, W Karlsson)

 

[Fjordy]

Which of our players do you think are good sell high candidates?
I know it won't happen but I'd be willing to trade Byram and Peterka for the right players (Andersson, JEE, Cirelli, W Karlsson)

Skinner, Jokiharju and Krebs. I think Peterka is here to stay, Lindy sees him as Bratt. I'm more inclined to trade picks and prospects than good players on the roster.

 

[HaNotsri]

Skinner, Jokiharju and Krebs. I think Peterka is here to stay, Lindy sees him as Bratt. I'm more inclined to trade picks and prospects than good players on the roster.

I think Jokiharju and Krebs are more in the "recover whatever you can zone" and could act as throw ins.
At best I see Krebs+pick land someone like Sturm and Jokiharju could be a placeholder if we trade for a rhd.
Skinner with his nmc is probably just a buyout option.
Would be nice to sell before the dip. Kulich might be a good one for that?

 

[Jim Bob]

Sabres offseason roadmap, part 1: How much can Kevyn Adams spend?

How are the Sabres going to allocate their cap space, and how much will be left when factoring in their in-house spending?

www.nytimes.com

 

[Beerz]

I think Jokiharju and Krebs are more in the "recover whatever you can zone" and could act as throw ins.
At best I see Krebs+pick land someone like Sturm and Jokiharju could be a placeholder if we trade for a rhd.
Skinner with his nmc is probably just a buyout option.
Would be nice to sell before the dip. Kulich might be a good one for that?

It's too bad Kulich wasn't playing in Juniors the last 2 years. Then he could of been popping off 2 pts a game and people wouldn't be down on him.

 

[Fjordy]

I think Jokiharju and Krebs are more in the "recover whatever you can zone" and could act as throw ins.
At best I see Krebs+pick land someone like Sturm and Jokiharju could be a placeholder if we trade for a rhd.
Skinner with his nmc is probably just a buyout option.
Would be nice to sell before the dip. Kulich might be a good one for that?

Yeah, I realize we probably won't get much for Krebs or Jokiharju. I'm not against keeping Krebs. Jokiharju seems even more odd here after Lindy said he sees Samuelsson or Power partnering Dahlin on the top pair. We could have four lefties in the top four. Adams just acquired Byram and isn't sure if he'll buy him now unless Lindy says he doesn't see him in the lineup.

Picks and prospects must be available for right deal.

It's unclear what Adams is looking at to fill the 3C hole. A guy like JEE would be very hard to get. Wild Bill is loved in Vegas, but they could have cap issues. Whether Tampa will want to trade Cirelli within the division or even trade him at all is unclear.

 

[joshjull]

I think Jokiharju and Krebs are more in the "recover whatever you can zone" and could act as throw ins.
At best I see Krebs+pick land someone like Sturm and Jokiharju could be a placeholder if we trade for a rhd.
Skinner with his nmc is probably just a buyout option.
Would be nice to sell before the dip. Kulich might be a good one for that?

Joker has good value. A 24yr old RHD who can skate and play a lot of minutes will always have value.

 

[truthbluth]

It's too bad Kulich wasn't playing in Juniors the last 2 years. Then he could of been popping off 2 pts a game and people wouldn't be down on him.

I wouldn't say I'm "down" on Kulich, but I was severely disappointed in his defensive game in the playoffs. He just doesn't look ready.

 

[Beerz]

I wouldn't say I'm "down" on Kulich, but I was severely disappointed in his defensive game in the playoffs. He just doesn't look ready.

Biggest problem was they had him at Center. It was fine for his development during regular season but come playoffs that should take a back seat. I don't know how many times they lost a faceoff in defensive zone and it was put in the net from the point. At least 4 times.

 

[Dingo44]

It's too bad Kulich wasn't playing in Juniors the last 2 years. Then he could of been popping off 2 pts a game and people wouldn't be down on him.

He did just get nominated for the AHL All Prospects Team for the second year in a row.

I believe the Amerks/Sabres wanted him to work on other parts of his game which meant he scored less but hopefully learned some more important traits that will help him be a better NHL'er.

 

[HOOats]

It's too bad Kulich wasn't playing in Juniors the last 2 years. Then he could of been popping off 2 pts a game and people wouldn't be down on him.

Cape Breton had his rights, he would have scored 2 GOALS per game in the Q lol.

I'm very optimistic for the eventual results of him stacking these 2-3 pro development seasons with positive summers in between. Finally a proper path for one of our top prospects. He'll have a strong foundation to fall back in the rare times he's not getting to his shot.

 

[Jim Bob]

There is a 0.0000000000000001% something like this could happen.

But, it is always a fun exercise.

 

[Matt Ress]

This is what you see more often than not when you drill down on a slow cooked player. Looks ready on paper for about 2 years now but when he's up in the bigs, clearly is not making the same impact with serious holes in his game.

All good. We'll talk about trading him but the team won't because it might be 24 or 25 but he'll mature eventually and be a very good NHL player while staying more valuable to the Sabres than the open market.

 

[Mattilaus]

Joker has good value. A 24yr old RHD who can skate and play a lot of minutes will always have value.

Was thinking the same thing. He was also +14 on the terribad Sabres last year, the highest on the team. I know +/- is a meh stat but it doesn't mean nothing. Joki has good value. Pretending he is a throw in akin to Krebs right now is crazy.

 

[TehDoak]

Joker has good value. A 24yr old RHD who can skate and play a lot of minutes will always have value.

We will see. I don't know if teams see him as a top 4 guy. Plus a lot of the teams with RHD needs might look to UFA before paying in trade. I think a 2nd or a bottom six forward that is a match for our needs would be a decent return at this point.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

The question is……. will there be a spot to earn?

If Adams fills out the roster with the pieces that have been discussed. There may not be a spot in the starting 12 for Kulich, Savoie, etc.

And that is the problem. You have room for 12 forwards. I would never keep a young kid in stands for an extended period but Buffalo is just too cushy. There isn't one player who thinks there is no way I can sit. Or have my ice time reduced. The Sabres have talked about competition in camp for years and Benson feels like the only guy who ever sort of won a spot. And that was more a spending Quinn issue.

I mean we need to add a 3C and some more physical guys, maybe there's a spot for Kulich or Savoie, maybe not.

Trade a few guys too. A degree of turmoil is okay, Being worried about being traded is good.

 

[jc17]

Which of our players do you think are good sell high candidates?
I know it won't happen but I'd be willing to trade Byram and Peterka for the right players (Andersson, JEE, Cirelli, W Karlsson)

He did just get nominated for the AHL All Prospects Team for the second year in a row.

We have our answer

based on the season we just had, it's the prospects that are at their highest value, not any roster players. I'd really be ok moving one of savoie and kulich. Not even from the perspective of getting rid of one because they're overvalued, but simply using the value they have to get what we need.

Their value isn't going up any higher if they light up in the ahl, but it could go down if they don't. Value only goes up if they make the NHL roster and are impactful, which at that point we don't move them. I'm just not eager to hope that's the case

 

[Fjordy]

Trade a few guys too.

But who?

 

[Fjordy]

There is a 0.0000000000000001% something like this could happen.

But, it is always a fun exercise.

What are talking about there?

 

[Jim Bob]

What are talking about there?

Anthony does a mock offseason and Chad represents the other GMs and agents around the league.

They do this every year.

 

[toddkaz]

That post wasn’t about Laine.

Weird cause he quoted my post about Laine and responded.