The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Chainshot]

I just hope he hasn't started his downfall.

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Situationally, that tells me he's a smidge below average defensively on a team that was pretty bad in xG% per a place like Money Puck. I don't think that's a bad thing. Maybe don't have him PK (he was 6th for the Blues among forwards in PK TOI last year).

 

[Fjordy]

Situationally, that tells me he's a smidge below average defensively on a team that was pretty bad in xG% per a place like Money Puck. I don't think that's a bad thing. Maybe don't have him PK (he was 6th for the Blues among forwards in PK TOI last year).

Nothing against Schenn, I just had a bad feeling about the St. Louis vets the last time we got them.

 

[Beerz]

Nothing against Schenn, I just had a bad feeling about the St. Louis vets the last time we got them.

PTSD is understandable

 

[Fjordy]

Joshua has dozens of teams interested (not surprisingly). I don't expect him to be in Buffalo and I wouldn't want to overpay for the risk. We need to find someone like that, probably Ventura's department should help with this.

 

[toddkaz]

Any interest in Laine if it means Skinner going the other way(theoretically waiving his NTC)

 

[Chainshot]

Any interest in Laine if it means Skinner going the other way(theoretically waiving his NTC)

One for one, it might be an interesting deal. Buffalo pays less per year, it shortens the term and gives them a younger player. Not sure about Laine’s mental health though. Much depends on how he is doing.

 

[TehDoak]

I'm still warm to the idea of someone like Brayden Schenn from the Blues. He has some tread on the tire, plays a reliable top 6 productivity and could be a part-time C if they need to flex around Thompson or Cozens being out. And his NTC doesn't kick in until next July 1st, only features 15 teams. I wonder if someone like Rosen could be of interest to the Blues as part of that sort of package? Or say Kulich straight up?

The age + the drop last year concerns me. And the drop was despite a big uptick in o-zone starts. I'm curious what someone who watches the blues think about last year. Was he banged up alot? He has an obvious pedigree, but would hate to buy low just as he's descending into late stage Okposo.

 

[Fjordy]

One for one, it might be an interesting deal. Buffalo pays less per year, it shortens the term and gives them a younger player. Not sure about Laine’s mental health though. Much depends on how he is doing.

I'm not sure about cost, they'll probably want some value back, especially if Skinner goes to Columbus. For all of Laine's problems, he was a hell of a productive player on a bad team that didn't even have a top 6 C.

 

[Chainshot]

I'm not sure about cost, they'll probably want some value back, especially if Skinner goes to Columbus. For all of Laine's problems, he was a hell of a productive player on a bad team that didn't even have a top 6 C.

Part of it was them trying to make him into a center too. Waddell dealt Skinner away in Carolina, not sure what he thinks there since the HC position is still open to speculation.

 

[Fjordy]

Part of it was them trying to make him into a center too. Waddell dealt Skinner away in Carolina, not sure what he thinks there since the HC position is still open to speculation.

Well, we don't know what Waddell thinks of Skinner and what their relationship is. As I understand it, he gave Skinner up at the request of the RBA.

This could also be some kind of three-way deal where Jeff would go to a place other than Columbus.

 

[Gras]

Well, we don't know what Waddell thinks of Skinner and what their relationship is. As I understand it, he gave Skinner up at the request of the RBA.

This could also be some kind of three-way deal where Jeff would go to a place other than Columbus.

Skinner > TML
Marner > CLB
Laine > BUF

 

[toddkaz]

I'm not sure about cost, they'll probably want some value back, especially if Skinner goes to Columbus. For all of Laine's problems, he was a hell of a productive player on a bad team that didn't even have a top 6 C.

Laine kind of reminds me of Nishushkin in Colorado.

Lots of risk but also lots of reward if it pans out.

Good teams hit home runs with these types of players

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

KA should go after Sean Monahan in UFA. They will desperately need a C that can play up the line-up, and I just don't see that player being added in a trade unless Buffalo actually loses the deal. He shouldn't command a cap-anchor type of contract but will fit in as a relatively affordable mid-six C...around 4x4-5 mil.

 

[toddkaz]

KA should go after Sean Monahan in UFA. They will desperately need a C that can play up the line-up, and I just don't see that player being added in a trade unless Buffalo actually loses the deal. He shouldn't command a cap-anchor type of contract but will fit in as a relatively affordable mid-six C...around 4x4-5 mil.

He probably wants 8m. Can't see Buffalo signing anyone like that

 

[Mattilaus]

He probably wants 8m. Can't see Buffalo signing anyone like that

He can want whatever he wants, nobody is paying him 8. If they do, they will quickly regret it. He hasn't broken 60 points in 5 years.

 

[Djp]

How much appetite for risk would people have if Marchessault gets all the way to UFA? Some smoke that Vegas and his agent aren't getting it done. He's coming off career highs in goals and is flat out old, but the guy has Cup pedigree and works his bag off.

Hrs older than Skinner. Too much risk in the downfall that will occur

I'm still warm to the idea of someone like Brayden Schenn from the Blues. He has some tread on the tire, plays a reliable top 6 productivity and could be a part-time C if they need to flex around Thompson or Cozens being out. And his NTC doesn't kick in until next July 1st, only features 15 teams. I wonder if someone like Rosen could be of interest to the Blues as part of that sort of package? Or say Kulich straight up?

Schein m as led to much.

They are targeting a $4M or less player

Laine kind of reminds me of Nishushkin in Colorado.

Lots of risk but also lots of reward if it pans out.

Good teams hit home runs with these types of players

Except Lainf makes as lot. Hoe is he differrnt than Skinner in reference to Ruff?

 

[HOOats]

Eh I would be too worried March would see it as a retirement tour. Big money, probably not his first choice in destinations and seemingly crappy team and all the while you shit away all your cap opportunities. Prefer a younger version with piss and vinegar.

I mean Marchessault had 42 goals last year and has 100 over the last three seasons. And he still has piss and vinegar. Don't think he's at retirement tour status yet. Sure we'd all prefer a younger 35 goal guy with energy but they're near impossible to find and get 8 years $9M.

I also don't know think we're going to be crappy and don't think that's the assumption around the league (they don't carry the drought like we do). We're a middle of the pack team.

 

[Chainshot]

I mean Marchessault had 42 goals last year and has 100 over the last three seasons. And he still has piss and vinegar. Don't think he's at retirement tour status yet. Sure we'd all prefer a younger 35 goal guy with energy but they're near impossible to find and get 8 years $9M.

I also don't know think we're going to be crappy and don't think that's the assumption around the league (they don't carry the drought like we do). We're a middle of the pack team.

There is rage and hatred in how Marchessault plays the game. He's ornery, he performs in the playoffs. We see so many people obsessed over perfect instead of done.

 

[toddkaz]

Hrs older than Skinner. Too much risk in the downfall that will occur

Schein m as led to much.

They are targeting a $4M or less player

Except Lainf makes as lot. Hoe is he differrnt than Skinner in reference to Ruff?

He makes less than Skinner and has less years left on his contract.

Your points work against you.

 

[Djp]

He makes less than Skinner and has less years left on his contract.

Your points work against you.

2 yrs older st 34 yrs old start the season. High risk of collapse. Nit a eise investment

When you factor buyout/ retention its using the same cap space

 

[Gabrielor]

IF Florida can't re-sign Sam Reinhart...the Buffalo Sabres should bring him home.

 

[MOGlLNY]

End the series Saturday so we can get to the off-season now

 

[Chainshot]

2 yrs older st 34 yrs old start the season. High risk of collapse. Nit a eise investment

When you factor buyout/ retention its using the same cap space

Yes, just like Ekholm, right?

 

[Matt Ress]

There is rage and hatred in how Marchessault plays the game. He's ornery, he performs in the playoffs. We see so many people obsessed over perfect instead of done.

Obsessed over perfect is one of my better traits and one that I would like to see the Sabres adopt.

 

[Matt Ress]

I mean Marchessault had 42 goals last year and has 100 over the last three seasons. And he still has piss and vinegar. Don't think he's at retirement tour status yet. Sure we'd all prefer a younger 35 goal guy with energy but they're near impossible to find and get 8 years $9M.

I also don't know think we're going to be crappy and don't think that's the assumption around the league (they don't carry the drought like we do). We're a middle of the pack team.

Idk man. That didn't really address anything I said except that we'll be a middle of the road team instead of crappy team. Tomato tomato.