Pastor Of Muppetz
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Of course not,I wouldn't expect any different..
"I tried logic with these people. It doesn't register"...Puckmunchkin...lmao
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"I tried logic with these people. It doesn't register"...Puckmunchkin...lmao
PuckMunchkin
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I just don't think that, when it comes to Jim Benning, you are capable of being all that objective. From the positions you defend here and the leaps in logic you are willing to make to hold on to your chosen narrative.
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Black Noise
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If you compare where we are at to where the Leafs or Jets are at... ooh boy do we ever have a long ways to go
This is the issue. Most (I think) would define a rebuild as a deliberate strategy that a team undertakes that includes:
1. Trading veterans for picks and prospects;
2. Playing younger players in prominent roles;
3. Communicating to it’s fans what the expectations for the club are, specifically that they are focussed more on rebuilding than on seriously competing for a playoff spot in the upcoming season.
Others consider a rebuild anytime a team is bad, drafts high, and something about the average age dropping.
y2kcanucks
Better than you
That’s not what you were arguing. What you argued was that the Canucks would make room for rookies to make the team. I’m not so sure that’s true based on their history.
Stecher was sent down to the AHL after earning a spot. He only got a roster spot after someone for injured.
Boeser was a healthy scratch to start the year, and again, only really got in after someone got injured.
Who have the Canucks dumped to make room for anyone?
Pastor Of Muppetz
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That is true about Stecher....Boeser had conditioning issues,but he had made the team and was healthily scratched for 2 games..
The bigger question is...which prospect has been good enough to warrant dumping a player?
pgj98m3
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On a rebuilding team the question should be what player is doing so well that a prospect can’t be replace him.....but I actually want this team to compete for the cup at some point.
I in the Eye
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We need to see what we have... and if any look like they are going to need a lot more development time (or give up on all together), we need to know how many additional draft picks we'll need to hedge our bets.
This isn't a competitive team. Just like when the playoffs are out of the picture, the young guys get more minutes, this should be started from the beginning. This year should be all about identification and assessment. It should have been years earlier... we should be much farther along. We should be in the same sentence as Toronto.
PG Canuck
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They haven’t said they are rebuilding so therefore they aren’t rebuilding. Signing players like Beagle and Roussel for stupid contracts basically confirms it.
y2kcanucks
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So then you're admitting that Benning hasn't done a good job bringing in quality prospects?
Pastor Of Muppetz
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No doubt. Boeser. Stecher. Uhm, Virtanen. Tryamkin, I guess, sorta came in for a bit.
Looking at that list I must say, that is a ridiculous amount of talent for one man to bring in over the span of a mere 5 summers. Superhuman effort really.
It'll start once Benning stops handing out contracts to aging vets (so not yet).
PuckMunchkin
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Then Im sure we have more than 1 or 2 rookies to inject in to our rebuilding lineup this upcoming season?
y2kcanucks
Better than you
Seems like it.
Either they have a bunch of good prospects who would then be pushing for jobs, or they don't. Which is it?
PuckMunchkin
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Now we again hit this annoying wall called logic that doesn't work with his view of the world.
Pavel96
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Benning is the best and nothing you can say will change that. He drafted Boeser and EP. Now I'm going to put a finger in each ear and say "la la la la la" really loudly while you talk common sense and make rational points.
PuckMunchkin
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Benning can do anything, except when Gillis happens. Then even Benning can't do anything.
Agreed on points 1 and 2, both of which happened as early as 2015.
3 is ridiculous and reeks of a completely ad hoc way to dishonestly justify the claim we haven’t been rebuilding.
By that definition a GM like Benning could have traded every player above the age of 21 for picks and stuff the roster exclusively with 20 year old free agent signings but still not be rebuilding if he refrained from using the word rebuild during interviews which is absolutely mind glowingly absurd.
PuckMunchkin
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March 1st 2017, the Jannik Hansen trade, was the last rebuilding move the Canucks have made. It's been 16 months since.
Jack Burton
Pro Tank Since 13
Hansen was traded for expansion reasons only.
Burrows on the other hand was a rebuild move IMHO
PuckMunchkin
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That maybe be. But the most positive reading of the situation is still bleak as hell. 1 rebuilding move in 16 months.
Jack Burton
Pro Tank Since 13
Completely agree.
You wanna know what else is bleak as hell?
After 5 off seasons of this regime with the promise of getting younger through a retool or rebuild....everything that Linden and Benning have pissed away and where we have been drafting...we have only produced 1 legit NHL player and that's Bo Horvat.
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