The Rebuild Started...

[pgj98m3]

sadly, the rebuild starts when bo horvat is traded for picks

If it is for the second Hughes it might not be so sad....

 

[Seattle Totems]

People are really missing the fact that the Canucks are at a point where it is too late to properly rebuild. All but a couple of their home grown veterans are gone now and their asset value left with them long ago. This is very bad considering how critical it is for a rebuilding team to cash in these assets. Teams that dont cash in just throw away all the equity built into their franchise for nothing.

The Canucks are basically at the equity level of a pre-Vegas expansion team right now. They have virtually nothing to show for anyone that they developed and has since moved on. Their roster even looks like an expansion team now when you consider how many players came from outside the organisation and how little value these players hold.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Where was he "far off the mark" ?..I thought the Hockey Guy was very rational in what he said,and backed up the reasons why....Explain?

Markström is an average goalie, his 5on5 s% shows that.

Pettersson going from playing 2 years mainly on the wing in lesser leagues to centering in the NHL.

He somehow doesnt see how we signing 30yr old bottom 6ers to untradeable long term deals is not exactly a rebuild move.

He doesnt realise we have created a log jam of bottom pairing d men & bottom 6 forwards on contracts that we will have a really hard time fitting in our young guys at any position.

Thinking Pettersson will play center right out of the gate he doesnt realise we will be icing prospects on the wings of Sutter and Beagle, if we will be icing youngsters at all that is. These guys do nothing in the o zone.

Thats a start.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Markström is an average goalie, his 5on5 s% shows that.

Pettersson going from playing 2 years mainly on the wing in lesser leagues to centering in the NHL.

He somehow doesnt see how we signing 30yr old bottom 6ers to untradeable long term deals is not exactly a rebuild move.

He doesnt realise we have created a log jam of bottom pairing d men & bottom 6 forwards on contracts that we will have a really hard time fitting in our young guys at any position.

Thinking Pettersson will play center right out of the gate he doesnt realise we will be icing prospects on the wings of Sutter and Beagle, if we will be icing youngsters at all that is. These guys do nothing in the o zone.

Thats a start.

Hockey Guy states right from the outset that he's just ball parking it,and these are not firm line combinations..I'm sure Pettersson will be shuffled around quite a bit (plus we have centers Sutter,Gaudette,Horvat and Gagner if he starts on the wing)

The new bottom 6 guys basically balance the team out..He states that our previous 4th line consisting of players like Granlund,Goldobin,Motte were completely miscast in this role (no checking,no leadership,no grit)..makes perfect sense to me,..The inclusion of these new signing benefits the younger prospects in the top 6...It helps the rebuild...The only players blocked by these signings are Archibald,Gaunce and Motte.(and possibly Leipsic and Granlund)

Why would any UFA play for the Vancouver Canucks unless they were overpaid ?..No contracts are 100% untradeable..There's always a way out,whether through trade ,being bought out ,or buried in the minors..These deals are small enough,so its not going to be 'that' much of an impact 2-3 years down the road.

If thats all you got for Hockey Guy being "way off the mark"...well okey dokey then.

 

[I in the Eye]

Hockey Guy states right from the outset that he's just ball parking it,and these are not firm line combinations..I'm sure Pettersson will be shuffled around quite a bit (plus we have centers Sutter,Gaudette,Horvat and Gagner if he starts on the wing)

The new bottom 6 guys basically balance the team out..He states that our previous 4th line consisting of players like Granlund,Goldobin,Motte were completely miscast in this role (no checking,no leadership,no grit)..makes perfect sense to me,..The inclusion of these new signing benefits the younger prospects in the top 6...It helps the rebuild...The only players blocked by these signings are Archibald,Gaunce and Motte.(and possibly Leipsic and Granlund)

Why would any UFA play for the Vancouver Canucks unless they were overpaid ?..No contracts are 100% untradeable..There's always a way out,whether through trade ,being bought out ,or buried in the minors..These deals are small enough,so its not going to be 'that' much of an impact 2-3 years down the road.

If thats all you got for Hockey Guy being "way off the mark"...well okey dokey then.

I think he's off-the-mark. I just got into 2:21 into the "How Bad Is It: The Vancouver Canucks". I don't see it playing out the way he thinks it will... and a future video will be explaining not where he was wrong, but what he failed to realize at the time what the grand plan was. Watching his video, to me, is like watching Kirk Cameron explain the existence of God through the perfection of a banana.

The Canucks are in an odd position, because the Canucks were positioned to be in an odd position. Being a bottom feeding playoff challenging team, is odd. It is not odd to be a rebuilding team... It is not odd to be a playoff challenging team. It is odd to be a playoff challenging team that is a bottom feeder.
This is not an obvious rebuild. This is an obvious bad team. A bad team does not equal a rebuilding team.

Getting Beagle and Rousell at the $ and term is awful GMing. It is horrible. It is really bad. The term, alone, can do no good. But, the money also sucks... and these players aren't tough, physical, grit. It's like saying Clendenning is a good skater... or that Prust is a good skater with great leadership qualities. It sounds great, but it is not true.
Benning has already said that acquiring Beagle frees up Sutter to be put in a more offensive role. Pencil in Sutter to be the 2nd line center. This has to be one of Green's first options. Green is NOT going to put Pettersson in a 2nd line role off the bat. Pettersson will need to play outstanding, much like Boeser, to jettison up to the top 6. Beginning of last season, Boeser couldn't even get into the line-up. Green has said Virtanen's development comes secondary to team winning. Green is going to dress a line-up that he feels gives the team the best opportunity to win. He's going to stick with simple and steady for as long as he can... and he's not going to experiment with rookies unless he needs to.

He says the Canucks didn't have grit and experience in the bottom 6. Who's fault is that? The Canucks have had grit and experience in the bottom 6. Richardson, Mattias, Kassian, Burrows, Hansen... and they were sent away, some for nothing. That's a lot of grit, experience (and some nice secondary skill). With this grit and experience (and skill), it is worth noting that the Canucks achieved the best result under Benning. Benning is on record saying that without Kassian (and Lack) down the stretch, he doesn't think the Canucks get into the playoffs... and Benning's right. Then we had Dorsett and Prust as grit and experience - explicit Culture Carriers. Benning's changes for grit and experience in the bottom 6 didn't make a lick of positive difference results-wise. We recently haven't had grit and experience in the bottom 6, because Dorsett retired and Benning pissed away much of the grit, experience (and skill) in the bottom 6 during "the purge", and failed to adequately replace it. His best bets, right now, are Virtanen, Gaunce and Archibald. Beagle and Rousell aren't going to make a lick of difference to the results. They aren't going to provide protection to the kids. The problem this team has is not a lack of grit and experience. The main problem this team has is that it's a poorly constructed shitty team. There is no quick fix, $24 mil silver bullet solution. The only result will be blocking kids from playing to see what we've got in them. It's 4 years... the length of time Benning was first hired, until now. They are here for the long haul. Not sure what the kids are expected to be insulated against from these two over the next 4 years. This is a bottom feeding team, with lots of losing on the horizon, if this team is filled with all kids, or all veterans. If there are to be kids on the roster, they are going to get exposed to losing.

4 year contracts are long term commitments. A 1 year deal, makes sense, IMO... for the reason of why not? This is an island of misfit toys so anyone can join and be accepted. Trade the contracts for picks at the deadline.

I look forward to having the time towards the other 8 minutes. I like that he's putting himself out there, and he's outlining his views.

 

[iceburg]

I have started a long response now twice to this thread title (this is the third time). Bottom line is the question is flawed.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I think he's off-the-mark. I just got into 2:21 into the "How Bad Is It: The Vancouver Canucks". I don't see it playing out the way he thinks it will... and a future video will be explaining not where he was wrong, but what he failed to realize at the time what the grand plan was. Watching his video, to me, is like watching Kirk Cameron explain the existence of God through the perfection of a banana.

The Canucks are in an odd position, because the Canucks were positioned to be in an odd position. Being a bottom feeding playoff challenging team, is odd. It is not odd to be a rebuilding team... It is not odd to be a playoff challenging team. It is odd to be a playoff challenging team that is a bottom feeder.
This is not an obvious rebuild. This is an obvious bad team. A bad team does not equal a rebuilding team.

Getting Beagle and Rousell at the $ and term is awful GMing. It is horrible. It is really bad. The term, alone, can do no good. But, the money also sucks... and these players aren't tough, physical, grit. It's like saying Clendenning is a good skater... or that Prust is a good skater with great leadership qualities. It sounds great, but it is not true.
Benning has already said that acquiring Beagle frees up Sutter to be put in a more offensive role. Pencil in Sutter to be the 2nd line center. This has to be one of Green's first options. Green is NOT going to put Pettersson in a 2nd line role off the bat. Pettersson will need to play outstanding, much like Boeser, to jettison up to the top 6. Beginning of last season, Boeser couldn't even get into the line-up. Green has said Virtanen's development comes secondary to team winning. Green is going to dress a line-up that he feels gives the team the best opportunity to win. He's going to stick with simple and steady for as long as he can... and he's not going to experiment with rookies unless he needs to.

He says the Canucks didn't have grit and experience in the bottom 6. Who's fault is that? The Canucks have had grit and experience in the bottom 6. Richardson, Mattias, Kassian, Burrows, Hansen... and they were sent away, some for nothing. That's a lot of grit, experience (and some nice secondary skill). With this grit and experience (and skill), it is worth noting that the Canucks achieved the best result under Benning. Benning is on record saying that without Kassian (and Lack) down the stretch, he doesn't think the Canucks get into the playoffs... and Benning's right. Then we had Dorsett and Prust as grit and experience - explicit Culture Carriers. Benning's changes for grit and experience in the bottom 6 didn't make a lick of positive difference results-wise. We recently haven't had grit and experience in the bottom 6, because Dorsett retired and Benning pissed away much of the grit, experience (and skill) in the bottom 6 during "the purge", and failed to adequately replace it. His best bets, right now, are Virtanen, Gaunce and Archibald. Beagle and Rousell aren't going to make a lick of difference to the results. They aren't going to provide protection to the kids. The problem this team has is not a lack of grit and experience. The main problem this team has is that it's a poorly constructed ****ty team. There is no quick fix, $24 mil silver bullet solution. The only result will be blocking kids from playing to see what we've got in them. It's 4 years... the length of time Benning was first hired, until now. They are here for the long haul. Not sure what the kids are expected to be insulated against from these two. This is a bottom feeding team, with lots of losing on the horizon, if this team is filled with all kids, or all veterans. If there are to be kids on the roster, they are going to get exposed to losing.

4 year contracts are long term commitments. A 1 year deal, makes sense, IMO... for the reason of why not? This is an island of misfit toys so anyone can join and be accepted. Trade the contracts for picks at the deadline.

The $ and term for the UFA'a was an overpayment..well documented

How do you know that Green isn't going to start Pettersson on the 2nd line..?...He's a top 6 player..Pure offence.Where else are you going to play him..?...I think thats completely obvious.

Boeser tired out in the last two exhibition games last year ..He was scratched in the first two regular season games...Not a big deal,unless you want to make a big deal out of it?

Greens not going to experiment with rookies..?...Completely false..Goldoblin,Gaudette and others all got fair playing time..Boeser was a Calder runner-up..The coach really held him back didnt he?

Beagle and Roussel are not going to make a lick of difference..?..Maybe we should see how they play and fit in the team first before jumping to rash conclusions....Then you veered off into a Benning rant.

It almost seems like you really want the team to fail.....(you're not alone,there are others here that share your sentiment)

You haven't disproven anything that the Hockey Guy said at all..All you've really served up is dire speculation.

Now back to regular programming..When did the rebuild start?

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Speaking of the rebuild..I thought it was completely obvious that some form of rebuild should have happened after the Sharks easily dispatched us in four straight games back in 2013.

Coach Vig paid the price after that,but he wasn't anywhere near what the real problems were on the Canucks.

 

[I in the Eye]

The $ and term for the UFA'a was an overpayment..well documented

How do you know that Green isn't going to start Pettersson on the 2nd line..?...He's a top 6 player..Pure offence.Where else are you going to play him..?...I think thats completely obvious.

OK. If Green starts Pettersson as 2nd line center in the regular season, I'll admit I was not right. If Green doesn't, you admit that you were wrong. It should be a reasonable bet that Pettersson isn't going to start as 2nd line center, imo. I realize I wrote "2nd line role"... I wrote that on my phone. It should be "2nd line center role". He may play 2nd line wing, imo. I think it's pretty clear that Sutter is the new 2nd line center, imo.

Boeser tired out in the last two exhibition games last year ..He was scratched in the first two regular season games...Not a big deal,unless you want to make a big deal out of it?

I don't think I'm making a big deal of it... I just don't think it's realistic for Hockey Guy to be putting Pettersson in as 2nd line center on his whiteboard. It's wishful thinking, IMHO. He should be putting Sutter there. As a rookie, Pettersson should be where Granlund is, and Granlund is in the line-up. Perhpas they'll say and convince themselves that Pettersson looked tired in exhibition.

Greens not going to experiment with rookies..?...Completely false..Goldoblin,Gaudette and others all got fair playing time..Boeser was a Calder runner-up..The coach really held him back didnt he?

Yeah, in time. Green is going to dress the team that he feels he can win with, above all else. Once the loses pile up, I'm sure that the younger players will get more time. But again, we'll see. I am open to admitting that I was not right... and I assume you'll be open to admitting that you were wrong.

Beagle and Roussel are not going to make a lick of difference..?..Maybe we should see how they play and fit in the team first before jumping to rash conclusions....Then you veered off into a Benning rant.

Sure... we can wait. Again, me, not right... You, wrong.

It almost seems like you really want the team to fail.....(you're not alone,there are others here that share your sentiment)

You are wrong. I do not want them to fail. I want them to be the best team ever, in the history of teams. I do not follow the Canucks for any reason other than I want them to do well. But I just don't see it. I've been told to "wait and see" for 4 years. As a Canucks fan, what would be great is if years were like months. As Benning said, "I'm impatient and I hate losing". Like Benning, I want the Canucks to be a great team ASAP.

You haven't disproven anything that the Hockey Guy said at all..All you've really served up is dire speculation.

I commented on what he said in about 2 minutes and 20 seconds from my point of view. I'll see what he says later on. He hasn't said anything so far that can be proven or disproven. What specific issue or topic do you think he proves?

Now back to regular programming..When did the rebuild start?

The rebuild didn't start. We're in re-tooling the re-tool stage.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

OK. If Green starts Pettersson as 2nd line center in the regular season, I'll admit I was not right. If Green doesn't, you admit that you were wrong. It should be a reasonable bet that Pettersson isn't going to start as 2nd line center, imo.



I don't think I'm making a big deal of it... I just don't think it's realistic for Hockey Guy to be putting Pettersson in as 2nd line center on his whiteboard. It's wishful thinking, IMHO. He should be putting Sutter there.



Yeah, in time. Green is going to dress the team that he feels he can win with, above all else. Once the loses pile up, I'm sure that the younger players will get more time. But again, we'll see. I am open to admitting that I was not right... and I assume you'll be open to admitting that you were wrong.



Sure... we can wait. Again, me, not right... You, wrong.



You are wrong. I do not want them to fail. I want them to be the best team ever, in the history of teams. I do not follow the Canucks for any reason other than I want them to do well. But I just don't see it. I've been told to "wait and see" for 4 years. As a Canucks fan, what would be great is if years were like months.



I commented on what he said in about 2 minutes and 20 seconds. I'll see what he says later on. He hasn't said anything so far that can be proven or disproven. What specific issue or topic do you think he proves?



The rebuild didn't start. We're in re-tooling the re-tool stage.

I don't think that Pettersson can play anywhere else other than the top 6. ...It would not surprise me if he's on the 1st line by the end of the year...I do agree with you that he probably won't start at centre,but I don't see him in the bottom 6..

I'm also willing to admit that I am wrong if that is the case.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Hockey Guy states right from the outset that he's just ball parking it,and these are not firm line combinations..I'm sure Pettersson will be shuffled around quite a bit (plus we have centers Sutter,Gaudette,Horvat and Gagner if he starts on the wing)

The difference of having 2 top 6 centers and having only 1 is pretty relevant here.

The new bottom 6 guys basically balance the team out..He states that our previous 4th line consisting of players like Granlund,Goldobin,Motte were completely miscast in this role (no checking,no leadership,no grit)..makes perfect sense to me,..The inclusion of these new signing benefits the younger prospects in the top 6...It helps the rebuild...The only players blocked by these signings are Archibald,Gaunce and Motte.(and possibly Leipsic and Granlund)

When you are commited long term on 4th liners, there is no way for a bottom 6 prospect to push them out. There is no competition at next years camp for our bottom 6 positions.

Why would any UFA play for the Vancouver Canucks unless they were overpaid ?..No contracts are 100% untradeable..There's always a way out,whether through trade ,being bought out ,or buried in the minors..These deals are small enough,so its not going to be 'that' much of an impact 2-3 years down the road.

Thats why rebuilding teams don't do what Benning just did. You stay put, offer 1 year deals. Overpay in money but don't give term. He acted like a team that is missing some grit to make a playoff push.

If thats all you got for Hockey Guy being "way off the mark"...well okey dokey then.

Sorry PoM but I get the feeling you keep doing this act in bad faith.

 

[Canucks1096]

People are really missing the fact that the Canucks are at a point where it is too late to properly rebuild. All but a couple of their home grown veterans are gone now and their asset value left with them long ago. This is very bad considering how critical it is for a rebuilding team to cash in these assets. Teams that dont cash in just throw away all the equity built into their franchise for nothing.

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Like who?

Sedins with the ntc were not going anywhere
Burrows got Dahlen
Hansen got Goldobin
Bieksa got 2nd round pick
Edler not wanting to waive no trade clause.

Tanev that's pretty much it.

 

[I in the Eye]

I don't think that Pettersson can play anywhere else other than the top 6. ...It would not surprise me if he's on the 1st line by the end of the year...I do agree with you that he probably won't start at centre,but I don't see him in the bottom 6..

I'm also willing to admit that I am wrong if that is the case.

I agree completely with this... other than 2c. I think he plays the wing in the top 6. Benning really wants Petterson to be a center... but I think he'll at least start on the wing, and perhaps play mostly the entire year on wing. I absolutely think Sutter is not going to be given a bottom 6 role - at least while meaningful games are still being played, which is probably until the end of October.

 

[Canucks1096]

• Bonino and Sbisa in the Kesler trade when he could have gone for prospects/pick along with that 1st
• A pick for Dorsett
• A pick for Vey
• Signing Miller
• Signing Vrbata
• Forsling for Clendenning
• A pick for Baertschi
• Signing Bartkowski
• Kassian + Pick for Prust
• Bonino and picks for Sutter and pick
• Shinkaruk for Granlund
• A pick for Larsen
• McCann + a pick for Gudbranson
• Signing Gagner
• Signing Del Zotto
• Signing Nilssson
• Signing Burmistrov
• Signing Vanek
• A pick for Pouliot

These are all moves designed to either compete or shortcut their way to "the next core". He is loading up on veterans. The fact that this so called "rebuilding" team may very likely only have one rookie in their starting line up come october should give you a clue.

P.S.: It is freaking D-A-H-L-E-N. Its seriously not that difficult.

I been on this forum for years. Not sure why when a user disagree with another user. A lot of times they like to correct the user spelling as well. If you actually agree with him, I don't think you would even bother correcting that person spelling.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I been on this forum for years. Not sure why when a user disagree with another user. A lot of times they like to correct the user spelling as well. If you actually agree with him, I don't think you would even bother correcting that person spelling.

I sure did when people were calling Bieksa Bieska here.

 

[y2kcanucks]

I totally agree.

Good, so I assume you're going to start using the facts now? You agree with my points now? Because simply ignoring reality isn't going to make reality go away.

 

[Peter10]

I been on this forum for years. Not sure why when a user disagree with another user. A lot of times they like to correct the user spelling as well. If you actually agree with him, I don't think you would even bother correcting that person spelling.

No, I am doing it because I find that extremly annoying. There are people who brag about the greatest prospect pool the Canucks have ever seen and then cant even get the simplest names correct. In this particular case its even worse, there is a Dahlin who is the best prospect in the world and not Canucks property and then there is Dahlen who albeit a solid prospect ways away from the level of a Dahlin. Seriously, both of these guys have been in the (Canuck) news for months now. Dahlen because he is one of the bright spots in the farm system and Dahlin because the Canucks had a chance on the #1 overall pick. This is not just solely related to PoM - its just a thing that is freaking me out.

 

[Canucks1096]

No, I am doing it because I find that extremly annoying. There are people who brag about the greatest prospect pool the Canucks have ever seen and then cant even get the simplest names correct. In this particular case its even worse, there is a Dahlin who is the best prospect in the world and not Canucks property and then there is Dahlen who albeit a solid prospect ways away from the level of a Dahlin. Seriously, both of these guys have been in the (Canuck) news for months now. Dahlen because he is one of the bright spots in the farm system and Dahlin because the Canucks had a chance on the #1 overall pick. This is not just solely related to PoM - its just a thing that is freaking me out.

I find it extremely annoying when someone try to correct someone spelling. I find it extremely rude and childish as well.

Pretend if me and you were friends. You text me and I reply back and started to correct your spelling. Would you find that annoying?

Pretend a bunch of friends are having dinner and having a conversation. Someone started to correcting your grammar infront of everyone? Do you find that annoying?

 

[Bleach Clean]

People are really missing the fact that the Canucks are at a point where it is too late to properly rebuild. All but a couple of their home grown veterans are gone now and their asset value left with them long ago. This is very bad considering how critical it is for a rebuilding team to cash in these assets. Teams that dont cash in just throw away all the equity built into their franchise for nothing.

The Canucks are basically at the equity level of a pre-Vegas expansion team right now. They have virtually nothing to show for anyone that they developed and has since moved on. Their roster even looks like an expansion team now when you consider how many players came from outside the organisation and how little value these players hold.

I've been thinking about this for the last few days.

What you say in terms of equity is true. They've squandered the value of the roster as it was, and now they have little remaining that is valuable. They aren't going to sell the their prospects, so yes, they can't sell to properly rebuild. However, they can still collect prime draft assets going the way they are.

This team is still terrible. There's no end in sight. They've collected 5 years worth of prospects, and we're only now heading into what many expect is a darker timeline than what we've already experienced... Let that sink in for a moment... By the end of it, they would have been in a position to collect 6-8 drafts worth of high end talent. They continue to pick high by being so bad.

In the end, VAN may collect the quantity of high picks commensurate to 2 to 3 rebuilds, let alone 1 rebuild. Even if not properly done, the collection of those assets will continue to occur if the team is poor. The only thing that may stop it is if the prospects are good enough to pull them up despite everything else going wrong. Critical mass. At that point, it will truly be too late. Hopefully, we're dealing with a new management group by then.

 

[Peter10]

I find it extremely annoying when someone try to correct someone spelling. I find it extremely rude and childish as well.

Pretend if me and you were friends. You text me and I reply back and started to correct your spelling. Would you find that annoying?

Pretend a bunch of friends are having dinner and having a conversation. Someone started to correcting your grammar infront of everyone? Do you find that annoying?

No, I wouldnt. If I do something wrong, I d rather be corrected (so I can do better next time) than doing the same mistake over an over again because nobody tells me. We are talking about pretty basic things here, its not like it is a more complicated name like Nieuwendyk. Dahlen is one of the best Canuck prospects and mentioned a lot, dont you think at some point people should know how to spell that name?

 

[Canucks1096]

No, I wouldnt. If I do something wrong, I d rather be corrected (so I can do better next time) than doing the same mistake over an over again because nobody tells me. We are talking about pretty basic things here, its not like it is a more complicated name like Nieuwendyk. Dahlen is one of the best Canuck prospects and mentioned a lot, dont you think at some point people should know how to spell that name?

This one little “social mistake” can make people hate you (don’t do it…) - Social Triggers

 

[Peter10]

This one little “social mistake” can make people hate you (don’t do it…) - Social Triggers

Jeez guy, you act as if I do nothing else but correcting peoples spelling mistakes - have I triggered you with that?

This wasnt about some poor pronunciation or whatever. This is about a name, and if you havent noticed yet that spelling mistake turns one player into another. PoM isnt for sure the only one doing so but have seen him doing so several times over the last few times.

Anyway, we are getting way off topic here, so lets leave it at that.

 

[The Drop]

This is great timing

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I find it extremely annoying when someone try to correct someone spelling. I find it extremely rude and childish as well.

Pretend if me and you were friends. You text me and I reply back and started to correct your spelling. Would you find that annoying?

Pretend a bunch of friends are having dinner and having a conversation. Someone started to correcting your grammar infront of everyone? Do you find that annoying?

It depends. Some people can take being corrected others cant.

 

[Canucker]

It depends. Some people can take being corrected others cant.

And some people desperately need correcting...it's the only way they will learn.