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The Race for the Calder Trophy

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HanSolo said:
Mintyukov could hang in there. If Terry doesn't pull his head out of his ass and continues to have plays die on his stick over and over again, it could be tough for Leo.
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Terry needs to be the one off that line, let him go 1v1 on the 2nd or 3rd line, IMO his play style doesn’t really mesh well with Carlsson’s. Not sure if Killorn or Z can play RW though.
 
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As much as I would like to say Cooley , I am not too confident it will be him . He is playing with Carcone and Boyd ( now Zucker) with limited minutes ( they let him on the PP where he gets his points)

But he is working on the D side of the game and was told to simplify , “a lot of what he did in college might not work here “ . He was way better offensively at the start of the year, but was not great defensively.

I think once he gets that figured out then he will start improving and shooting more , right now he defers - passes it up.

i think his points will be top 3 justbecause of the PP time

At the end of the day it will be like last year between Beniers and Maccelli
 
Fraser28 said:
I think by the end of the year becomes Bedard v. Carlsson. Bedard takes it.
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I doubt that Carlsson will even be a finalist given how the ducks are going to have him sit out games.

For me it will be Bedard winning then 2 guys, perhaps Cooley and Knies are best situated for being finalists.
 
Ok...I'm on board with Bedard, now. I wasn't convinced his game translated to the NHL, when he was drafted, but seeing him play a handful of games, he has made some big adjustments and made me a believer.
 
I think Mintyukov is right up there with Bedard so far. Cooley third. Leo isn't ready to play a full schedule yet so that will limit his chances. I'll say in Columbus Fantilli and Voronkov both could take off, so far they're playing limited minutes in a hyper defensive system, and that could change.
 
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eojsmada said:
Ok...I'm on board with Bedard, now. I wasn't convinced his game translated to the NHL, when he was drafted, but seeing him play a handful of games, he has made some big adjustments and made me a believer.
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Beyond the two scoring plays, can you describe some of the other aspects of his game from today that you found impressive? I missed a little bit and personally found his first period pretty underwhelming. Must have turned it around a bit in the second half.
 
Ovechkid08 said:
Beyond the two scoring plays, can you describe some of the other aspects of his game from today that you found impressive? I missed a little bit and personally found his first period pretty underwhelming. Must have turned it around a bit in the second half.
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Honestly, it was his 2nd goal today that made me more of a believer. I had issues with how pronounced and elongated his flex was, when he would snap off wristers. I believed that the amount of time it took him to get his shot off would easily be countered by defensemen simply having better positioning and using their stick to simply get in the way of where he wanted to go. But he has made some adjustments to where he takes his shots from and is being a lot more patient than other top goal scorers who have come out of junior.

Don't get me wrong, he still has a lot to learn in terms of consistency and defense. But being able to score on a team that has very few offensive weapons and still being able to put up almost 10 goals, this early in the season, is a pretty incredible feat.
 
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eojsmada said:
Honestly, it was his 2nd goal today that made me more of a believer. I had issues with how pronounced and elongated his flex was, when he would snap off wristers. I believed that the amount of time it took him to get his shot off would easily be countered by defensemen simply having better positioning and using their stick to simply get in the way of where he wanted to go. But he has made some adjustments to where he takes his shots from and is being a lot more patient than other top goal scorers who have come out of junior.

Don't get me wrong, he still has a lot to learn in terms of consistency and defense. But being able to score on a team that has very few offensive weapons and still being able to put up almost 10 goals, this early in the season, is a pretty incredible feat.
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Thanks for sharing your insight!
 
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Okay figured this will much easier than typing it all out.
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majormajor said:
I think Mintyukov is right up there with Bedard so far. Cooley third. Leo isn't ready to play a full schedule yet so that will limit his chances. I'll say in Columbus Fantilli and Voronkov both could take off, so far they're playing limited minutes in a hyper defensive system, and that could change.
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If Voronkov keeps his pace (all but guaranteed he won't) he could easily finish in the top 5. It's a wild daydream, but Columbus sorely needs a couple of guys to breakout seemingly out of nowhere.
 
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umma gumma said:
Knies for the Calder,
Matthews for the Hart,
Marner for the Selke,
Holl for the Vezina,
Rielley for the Norris.
Reeves for the Lady Bing
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I noticed that you didn't nominate anyone from Toronto for the Conn Smythe trophy. Is your crystal ball telling you that a member of some other team is going to be the most valuable player during the playoffs? Telling
 
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Not sure, but hell of a pickup to be getting top-6 production from a late 2nd round pick 2 years after the draft.

A lot of teams would wish for that from even an early-to-mid-1st rounder.
 
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Jacob said:
Not sure, but hell of a pickup to be getting top-6 production from a late 2nd round pick 2 years after the draft.

A lot of teams would wish for that from even an early-to-mid-1st rounder.
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Still not a Calder guy though. But very pleased with him so far. The way he hunts down picks and uses his size is impressive.
 
This is the best rookie class since 2016...

2016
Top 15 Forwards
Auston Matthews
Patrick Laine
Mitch Marner
William Nylander
Sebastien Aho
Matthew Tkachuk
Brayden Point
Mikko Rantanen
Jake Guentzel
Anthony Mantha
Connor Brown
Zach Hyman
Christian Dvorak
Ryan Hartman
Travis Konecny
+ Nick Schmaltz/Anthony Beauvillier/Jimmy Vesey/Pavel Buchnevich/Kevin Labanc/Kevin Fiala

Top 10 Dman
Zach Werenski
Brady Skjei
Nikita Zaitsev
Ivan Provorov
Josh Morrissey
Jakob Chychrun
Troy Stecher
Esa Lindell
Brandon Carlo
Derek Forbort
+ Pelech/Deangelo/Mayfield/Nuutivaara/Tryamkin

Goalies
Matt Murray
Juuse Saros
 
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Also this year has some of the best team rookie classes we've seen in a while:

Anaheim:
Pavel Mintyukov - 10 points 16 games a defender
Leo Carlsson - 6 goals, 8 points in 11 games
Jackson Lacombe - Establishing himself as a solid regular defender.
B-O Groulx- Getting a role in the bottom 6
Luneau got opportunities, Zellweger/Regenda might get some looks

Chicago
Connor Bedard- arguably already a top forward in the league.
Kevin Korchinski - Establishing himself as top 4 guy
Wyatt Kaiser - Has become an NHL regular
Guttman/Phillips - Getting looks

Columbus
Adam Fantilli - 9 points 17 games finding his stride as a top 6 guy
Dmitry Voronkov - 8 points 11 games. He's looked good
David Jiricek - Looks like he's established his self as a mainstay on CBJ's D
Fix Wolansky/Svozil - Could get looks

Calgary is having a sneaky good class, as is Minnesota.
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How do these classes compare to some of the best?

Pittsburgh - 2005-06: Sidney Crosby, Marc Andre-Fleury, 40pt in 47 games Colby Armstrong, 36pt Ryan Whitney, 32 point Michel Ouelette, Max Talbot, Erik Christensen, Shane Endicott
Chicago - 2007-08: Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Dave Bolland, Adam Burish + Hjalmarsson/Kontiola/Skille/Versteeg/Hendry/Brouwer all getting 10+ looks
Edmonton - 2010-11: Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Devan Dubnyk, Linus Omark, Magnus Pajaarvi, Jeff Petry + Hartikainen/VandeVelde/O'Marra getting looks
Tampa - 2013-14: Tyler Johnson, Odrej Palat, Nikita Kucherov, Radko Gudas, JT Brown, Richard Panik, Marc Barberio, Andrej Sustr + Namestnitikov/Paquette getting looks
Toronto 2016-17: Auston Matthews, William Nylander, Mitch Marner, Nikita Zaitsev, Connor Brown, Zach Hyman + Gauthier/Kapanen getting looks
Boston 2017-18: Charlie Mcavoy, Jake Debrusk, Danton Heinen, Matt Grzelcyk, Sean Kuraly, Anders Bjork + Donato/Cehlarik/O'Gara getting looks
Detroit - 2021-22: Moritz Seider, Lucas Raymond, Alex Nedeljkovic, Joe Veleno + Walman/Juolevi getting looks
 
Mitch nylander said:
Also this year has some of the best team rookie classes we've seen in a while:

Anaheim:
Pavel Mintyukov - 10 points 16 games a defender
Leo Carlsson - 6 goals, 8 points in 11 games
Jackson Lacombe - Establishing himself as a solid regular defender.
B-O Groulx- Getting a role in the bottom 6
Luneau got opportunities, Zellweger/Regenda might get some looks

Chicago
Connor Bedard- arguably already a top forward in the league.
Kevin Korchinski - Establishing himself as top 4 guy
Wyatt Kaiser - Has become an NHL regular
Guttman/Phillips - Getting looks

Columbus
Adam Fantilli - 9 points 17 games finding his stride as a top 6 guy
Dmitry Voronkov - 8 points 11 games. He's looked good
David Jiricek - Looks like he's established his self as a mainstay on CBJ's D
Fix Wolansky/Svozil - Could get looks

Calgary is having a sneaky good class, as is Minnesota.
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How do these classes compare to some of the best?

Pittsburgh - 2005-06: Sidney Crosby, Marc Andre-Fleury, 40pt in 47 games Colby Armstrong, 36pt Ryan Whitney, 32 point Michel Ouelette, Max Talbot, Erik Christensen, Shane Endicott
Chicago - 2007-08: Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Dave Bolland, Adam Burish + Hjalmarsson/Kontiola/Skille/Versteeg/Hendry/Brouwer all getting 10+ looks
Edmonton - 2010-11: Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Devan Dubnyk, Linus Omark, Magnus Pajaarvi, Jeff Petry + Hartikainen/VandeVelde/O'Marra getting looks
Tampa - 2013-14: Tyler Johnson, Odrej Palat, Nikita Kucherov, Radko Gudas, JT Brown, Richard Panik, Marc Barberio, Andrej Sustr + Namestnitikov/Paquette getting looks
Toronto 2016-17: Auston Matthews, William Nylander, Mitch Marner, Nikita Zaitsev, Connor Brown, Zach Hyman + Gauthier/Kapanen getting looks
Boston 2017-18: Charlie Mcavoy, Jake Debrusk, Danton Heinen, Matt Grzelcyk, Sean Kuraly, Anders Bjork + Donato/Cehlarik/O'Gara getting looks
Detroit - 2021-22: Moritz Seider, Lucas Raymond, Alex Nedeljkovic, Joe Veleno + Walman/Juolevi getting looks
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Forgot Dostal for the Ducks.
 
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