Should’ve been a duck along with Crosby but if the ducks had Crosby then they would’ve never had Bedard….. And the timeline goes onIf Bedard ended up on Anaheim I can only imagine how many points he would have right now, also only two PP points and still leading in points.
The Bedard hype machine needs to factor in. If it’s close, it goes Bedard. Anyone other than him that wants to win has to do it unassailably, there’s just too much noise behind Bedard.I think Luke could end up stealing this thing from Bedard. He's emerged as the Devils best defenseman. He's got the best xGA/60 of all devils dmen while pacing for 53 points playing 20 mins a night.
In the hypothetical where he continues his excellent defensive play and ends up around 10 goals 55 points, and Bedard scores around 40 goals 70 points, I think that's probably pretty close to a coin flip.
I think Luke could end up stealing this thing from Bedard.
Why should Crosby have been a Duck? And before you say the Ducks got gipped in the lottery you might want to look up the rules for that year.Should’ve been a duck along with Crosby but if the ducks had Crosby then they would’ve never had Bedard….. And the timeline goes on
If Bedard stays healthy and keeps this pace up and scores 40+, it's his for sure. Luke would have to be way closer to ppg with great advanced stats to beat an 18 year-old 40g scorer. Right now I don't see any of the forwards challenging Bedard, so in that sense I agree that Luke or another D (Minty) has the best chance outside Bedard. But he'd have to slow down and finish around 30g 60pts for them to beat him.
The hype factor could definitely have an outsized impact on the voting, as could Bedard's ageThe Bedard hype machine needs to factor in. If it’s close, it goes Bedard. Anyone other than him that wants to win has to do it unassailably, there’s just too much noise behind Bedard.
Lol no if Bedard gets fourty hes winnig it.I think Luke could end up stealing this thing from Bedard. He's emerged as the Devils best defenseman. He's got the best xGA/60 of all devils dmen while pacing for 53 points playing 20 mins a night.
In the hypothetical where he continues his excellent defensive play and ends up around 10 goals 55 points, and Bedard scores around 40 goals 70 points, I think that's probably pretty close to a coin flip.
Luke Hughes is playing very very well as you've noted. Even at 50-55 points with continued good defense I'm skeptical he can overcome a 40 goal Berard season on a bad Chicago team. I won't be disappointed if Bedard finishes with 35+ goals and similar number of assists to win the award and Luke is second. Bedard was hyped for a reason and give him credit, he's living up to it. Luke is more than living up to his own hype and that's all that realistically matters for these young players in my view.The hype factor could definitely have an outsized impact on the voting, as could Bedard's age
If Bedard hits 40g 70p, Luke probably would need 60+ point with great defensive impacts to overcome the odds. He'd essentially need to be a legit #1 defenseman in the NHL this year.
TIL Erik Gustafsson is better than Jaccob Slavin lolSome of the player cards from the Athletic have been updated to add some additional data points.
https://theathletic.com/5015504/202...-central-division/?source=user_shared_article
NHL Player Cards: Central Division
His scoring has been great, but he has been really terrible defensively, and that matches the eye test.Luke Hughes is playing very very well as you've noted. Even at 50-55 points with continued good defense I'm skeptical he can overcome a 40 goal Berard season on a bad Chicago team. I won't be disappointed if Bedard finishes with 35+ goals and similar number of assists to win the award and Luke is second. Bedard was hyped for a reason and give him credit, he's living up to it. Luke is more than living up to his own hype and that's all that realistically matters for these young players in my view.
His scoring has been great, but he has been really terrible defensively, and that matches the eye test.
The Athletic's rating has Luke well ahead of Bedard through the first quarter of the season, and they project that to be the case by year's end.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Faber win it, he'd be deserving in my books. But unfortunately the voters are essentially glorified stat watchers, so defenseman like him get crazy underrated, while liabilities like Dougie Hamilton get brought up in Norris trophy discussions.If The Athletic's player cards are the judgement, Faber's got it in the bag....
His scoring has been great, but he has been really terrible defensively, and that matches the eye test.
The Athletic's rating has Luke well ahead of Bedard through the first quarter of the season, and they project that to be the case by year's end.
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Yeah no doubt. As I said in the post right above yours, the voters are glorified stat watchers.I don’t doubt you are correct about the defensive play for Berard but I’m not sure that’s a big deal to Calder voters. NHL awards seem much less in forth to me than many here postulate. For example how many Calder voters do you think will look at this sort of secondary data much less actually rely on it? Either way as a NJ fan I’m ecstatic with how Luke has progressed.
His scoring has been great, but he has been really terrible defensively, and that matches the eye test.
The Athletic's rating has Luke well ahead of Bedard through the first quarter of the season, and they project that to be the case by year's end.
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Dmitry Voronkov - 8 points 11 games. He's looked good
I'm having a tough time understanding how you are mocking the Athletics player cards in your previous post but using them as evidence to support your point 13 minutes later lol
Marchenko rookie year was also extremely impressiveInteresting to see some fairly unassuming KHLers coming to the NHL and having success. Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, now Voronkov. Kovalenko maybe next.