The Race for the Calder Trophy

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Victory laps aside, if Bedard finishes point per game he arguably has just had his 3rd straight season that’s more impressive than McDavid’s

Draft -1

McDavid
OHL:0.5 G/GP, 1.77 P/GP
WJC: 4 point in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 0.83 G/GP, 1.61 P/GP
WJC: 8 points in 7 games (more with the cancelled tournament)

Advantage weighs extremely towards Bedard. Not much to argue there.

Draft year

McDavid
OHL: 0.94 G/GP, 2.55 P/GP
WJC: 11 points in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 1.25 G/GP, 2.51 P/GP
WJC: 23 points in 7 games

Once again, advantage pretty clearly Bedard here once how bad his Regina was is factored in.

Draft +1

McDavid: 16 goals, 48 points in 45 games.
Bedard: 20 goals, 51 points in 52 games.

Considering the team he’s on, I think there’s a great argument he’s having another more productive year. But he doesn’t skate as pretty, so he may not be generational.
 
Victory laps aside, if Bedard finishes point per game he arguably has just had his 3rd straight season that’s more impressive than McDavid’s

Draft -1

McDavid
OHL:0.5 G/GP, 1.77 P/GP
WJC: 4 point in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 0.83 G/GP, 1.61 P/GP
WJC: 8 points in 7 games (more with the cancelled tournament)

Advantage weighs extremely towards Bedard. Not much to argue there.

Draft year

McDavid
OHL: 0.94 G/GP, 2.55 P/GP
WJC: 11 points in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 1.25 G/GP, 2.51 P/GP
WJC: 23 points in 7 games

Once again, advantage pretty clearly Bedard here once how bad his Regina was is factored in.

Draft +1

McDavid: 16 goals, 48 points in 45 games.
Bedard: 20 goals, 51 points in 52 games.

Considering the team he’s on, I think there’s a great argument he’s having another more productive year. But he doesn’t skate as pretty, so he may not be generational.

Do consider that scoring is much higher now than it was in McDavid's rookie year. Only one player reached 90+ points in '16, last year 19 players did, and roughly the same amount will reach 90 points again this year. A single player hit 1.1+ppg in '16, currently there are 21.

McDavid had the 3rd highest ppg, Bedard sits tied for 35.

There's zero argument that Bedard is having a more productive year than McDavid did his first NHL season.
 
Victory laps aside, if Bedard finishes point per game he arguably has just had his 3rd straight season that’s more impressive than McDavid’s

Draft -1

McDavid
OHL:0.5 G/GP, 1.77 P/GP
WJC: 4 point in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 0.83 G/GP, 1.61 P/GP
WJC: 8 points in 7 games (more with the cancelled tournament)

Advantage weighs extremely towards Bedard. Not much to argue there.

Draft year

McDavid
OHL: 0.94 G/GP, 2.55 P/GP
WJC: 11 points in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 1.25 G/GP, 2.51 P/GP
WJC: 23 points in 7 games

Once again, advantage pretty clearly Bedard here once how bad his Regina was is factored in.

Draft +1

McDavid: 16 goals, 48 points in 45 games.
Bedard: 20 goals, 51 points in 52 games.

Considering the team he’s on, I think there’s a great argument he’s having another more productive year. But he doesn’t skate as pretty, so he may not be generational.
Yeah, @cupface52 summed it up pretty well.


Id even go as far to say it's debatable whether Bedard's rookie season is better than Matthews who finished 2nd in goals, 1st in EV Goals and 29th in PPG as a rookie.

Bedard is 43rd in GPG and 35th in PPG.
 
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Do consider that scoring is much higher now than it was in McDavid's rookie year. Only one player reached 90+ points in '16, last year 19 players did, and roughly the same amount will reach 90 points again this year. A single player hit 1.1+ppg in '16, currently there are 21.

McDavid had the 3rd highest ppg, Bedard sits tied for 35.

There's zero argument that Bedard is having a more productive year than McDavid did his first NHL season.
Scoring environment is certainly NOT higher on this current Chicago team than on that Oiler’s team. That Edmonton team scored 2.43 goals per game, even after these absolute outbursts by Bedard Chicago is still at a paltry 2.18.

Did some research on it earlier for a previous post in this thread, but nobody in league history has had a better point per game on a team that scores less than Chicago this year. Nobody, not just rookies but anyone. It may have changed to include a couple players after Bedard has boosted Chicago’s scoring (it was 2.09 last time I checked if I remember), but what we are seeing is unprecedented.
 
Do consider that scoring is much higher now than it was in McDavid's rookie year. Only one player reached 90+ points in '16, last year 19 players did, and roughly the same amount will reach 90 points again this year. A single player hit 1.1+ppg in '16, currently there are 21.

McDavid had the 3rd highest ppg, Bedard sits tied for 35.

There's zero argument that Bedard is having a more productive year than McDavid did his first NHL season.
But then you also have to consider the level of crap the Hawks are. Despite the higher scoring era the Hawks would still be the lowest scoring team in 2016. Bedard's linmates in the season before scored .36 ppg (Kurashev) and .43 ppg (Foligno). McDavid's linemates scored .78 ppg (Elberle) and .59 ppg (Pouloit) in the season before. Also Edmonton had another line (Halls) to draw attention away from McDavid's line. Bedard is dragging along 3rd/4th liners on maybe one of the worst scoring teams this century.
 
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Tonight was the first time in a while I can recall Bedard getting a cheapo 2nd assist off the Jones powerplay goal where he didn't do much and got a point anyways. Mind you, he had 4 primary points in the game as well. He almost always gets his points off primary points because the Hawks stink too much to score if Bedard isn't a direct influencer. His 51 points can be broken down by 20 goals, 24 primary assists and 7 secondary assists. Bedard is T-20th in Primary Assists for a rookie since the 2005-06 season. He's tied for 326th in secondary assists.
 
Victory laps aside, if Bedard finishes point per game he arguably has just had his 3rd straight season that’s more impressive than McDavid’s

Draft -1

McDavid
OHL:0.5 G/GP, 1.77 P/GP
WJC: 4 point in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 0.83 G/GP, 1.61 P/GP
WJC: 8 points in 7 games (more with the cancelled tournament)

Advantage weighs extremely towards Bedard. Not much to argue there.

Draft year

McDavid
OHL: 0.94 G/GP, 2.55 P/GP
WJC: 11 points in 7 games
Bedard
WHL: 1.25 G/GP, 2.51 P/GP
WJC: 23 points in 7 games

Once again, advantage pretty clearly Bedard here once how bad his Regina was is factored in.

Draft +1

McDavid: 16 goals, 48 points in 45 games.
Bedard: 20 goals, 51 points in 52 games.

Considering the team he’s on, I think there’s a great argument he’s having another more productive year. But he doesn’t skate as pretty, so he may not be generational.
I saw the first 2 points in favor of McDavid. 7 game sample size is reliant more on luck than a season. A long stretch has a more reliable predicting factor even if the games are non playoff.

 
A huge part of excelling as a center is taking care of the defensive side of the game. I've stated countless times how great he's been offensively, but there's more to the sport than that. It's crazy that's some controversial idea.

He's f***ing 18. I'm guessing his defensive game improves drastically. What an idiotic criticism. Kid is a PPG on one of the worst offensive teams of the last 20 years.
 
Theres a lot more skill on the team now that everyone but Hall is back healthy. I think his PPG avg should go up substantially. They were so injury plagued they were icing a roster of AHL castoffs.

Not that this is the Gretzky Oilers by any means but it is a far superior lineup to a month or so ago getting back Bedard, Tyler Johnson, Athanasiou etc.
 
He's f***ing 18. I'm guessing his defensive game improves drastically. What an idiotic criticism. Kid is a PPG on one of the worst offensive teams of the last 20 years.

If you're in full melt down mode because someone wasn't as optimistic as you about some aspect of a player's future development, then it is time to log off and go touch some grass. You made a nasty uncalled for comment.
 
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Theres a lot more skill on the team now that everyone but Hall is back healthy. I think his PPG avg should go up substantially. They were so injury plagued they were icing a roster of AHL castoffs.

Not that this is the Gretzky Oilers by any means but it is a far superior lineup to a month or so ago getting back Bedard, Tyler Johnson, Athanasiou etc.
They might be back but this has become one of the shittiest effort teams in the NHL as the season has gone on. Forget skill whatever that is
 
They might be back but this has become one of the shittiest effort teams in the NHL as the season has gone on. Forget skill whatever that is
They suck hard but there is enough for Bedard to get over a point a game. And just saying its better than it was before. Skill is still lacking and when you dont have skill it can look like lack of effort when you are being outplayed.

Against a team like Colorado they have ZERO chance. But they finally score more than a goal a game against the weak sisters of the NHL
 
I would love to see how many of Bedard’s assists are primary. It has to be a huge percentage of them. Just illustrates how important he is to the Blackhawks offence. He is not getting the benefit of easy points.
 
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51 points in 52 games. All of a sudden point per game for the season seems likely.
He has a habit of cranking it up as the season goes on and while some will twist themselves into a pretzel saying who Bedard isn't but what is is instead is an extremely special offensive talent that we are watching make his mark in the NHL.

The Calder is his, let's enjoy the show.
 
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Nice non argument. Why is that so cut and dry in your mind? Faber has an incredible season.


The fact that Bédard is most likely the next generational player and will have the best career doesn't mean he's necessarily the best rookie this year.
I stand by my statement. Anyone who says this race is even close let alone not going to Bedard is a clown. It's a clown take. Can not be defended in any logical way.
 
He has a habit of cranking it up as the season goes on and while some will twist themselves into a pretzel saying who Bedard isn't but what is is instead is an extremely special offensive talent that we are watching make his mark in the NHL.

The Calder is his, let's enjoy the show.
He's giving us what we all (well, mostly all) wanted to see!

I stand by my statement. Anyone who says this race is even close let alone not going to Bedard is a clown. It's a clown take. Can not be defended in any logical way.
And judging by your account name, I take it you're a bit of an expert on clowns!
There sure have been more than a few clownish posts here though....
 
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