The Race for the Calder Trophy

[Geoist]

Is Calder awarded to the rookie with the highest trade value, or why is that relevant?

Calder is awarded to the best rookie. Bedard has been the best rookie without a doubt. The only people who disagree are obnoxious contrarians.

 

[Geoist]

Is Calder awarded to the rookie with the highest trade value, or why is that relevant?

Let's say they were traded just for this year. Again, Minnesota fans would take Bedard for Faber 1000 times out of 1000.

 

[BB88]

Calder is awarded to the best rookie. Bedard has been the best rookie without a doubt. The only people who disagree are obnoxious contrarians.

Calder gets basically awarded to the player who has the most points

 

[Geoist]

Calder gets basically awarded to the player who has the most points

Well points are pretty damn important. Granted, they are not the end-all-be-all, and during some years an argument could be made for a great defensive rookie over an offensive one. But when you have a player whose rookie stats are comparable to Connor freakin' McDavid's rookie stats (who, btw, had a much better supporting cast), I think it's pretty safe to say that player is the runaway leader for the trophy.

 

[MuckOG]

Calder gets basically awarded to the player who has the most points

You sure about that?

 

[Adam da bomb]

Well points are pretty damn important. Granted, they are not the end-all-be-all, and during some years an argument could be made for a great defensive rookie over an offensive one. But when you have a player whose rookie stats are comparable to Connor freakin' McDavid's rookie stats (who, btw, had a much better supporting cast), I think it's pretty safe to say that player is the runaway leader for the trophy.

People still argued Matthews was as good as McD for a long time. Ovie over Crosby. Lemieux over 99. No matter how dominant Bedard’s season has been there will always be disagreements.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Bedard is lapping the field.

There are some other really good rookies though

 

[cupface52]

Well points are pretty damn important. Granted, they are not the end-all-be-all, and during some years an argument could be made for a great defensive rookie over an offensive one. But when you have a player whose rookie stats are comparable to Connor freakin' McDavid's rookie stats (who, btw, had a much better supporting cast), I think it's pretty safe to say that player is the runaway leader for the trophy.

McDavid had the 3rd highest ppg his rookie year, Bedard is currently 57th. McDavid was a rookie in the lowest scoring year post lockout, while Bedard is playing during the second highest scoring year.

 

[Zalos]

Bedard's an easy pick so far. Leading all others while on the worst team in the league.

Put him on New Jersey and he'd have 10-15 more points.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I wouldn't make new trophy, but I would like a honorable mentions under Calder. Smth like this:

- Best rookie forward
- Best rookie defensemen
- Best rookie goalie

That way player like Luke Hughes would have in his resume "NHL best rookie defensemen in 23-24 season"

I'm a devils fan, and while he's been awesome, Luke Hughes hasn't been the best rookie defender this year - it's been Brock Faber.

Bedard's an easy pick so far. Leading all others while on the worst team in the league.

Put him on New Jersey and he'd have 10-15 more points.

You think he'd have more points than Jack Hughes? Not so sure about that.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

Too bad Bèdard is in this rookie class because Hughes has been phenomenal

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Too bad Bèdard is in this rookie class because Hughes has been phenomenal

This is one of the strongest rookie classes in years. Faber, Carlsson, Fantilli, Mintyukov, Hughes, Rossi are all playing at Calder worthy levels.

 

[Geoist]

McDavid had the 3rd highest ppg his rookie year, Bedard is currently 57th. McDavid was a rookie in the lowest scoring year post lockout, while Bedard is playing during the second highest scoring year.

Bedard is one goal away from tying McDavid's rookie season with ten games to do it. McDavid got a large chunk of those points from assists. For Bedard, assists are a much lower % of the points. This kind of makes my point that Bedard is doing more working with less. Bedard's line atm is with Foligno and Kurashev. Good players, but they'd be 3rd or 4th liners on good teams.

 

[wetcoast]

Bedard is my pick and will win the Calder but man he sure is in tough playing against the Stars back to back.

 

[TLEH]

You want to turn on some bad Bedard tape? These two games against the Stars are it. He’s been terrible.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Bedard is my pick and will win the Calder but man he sure is in tough playing against the Stars back to back.

Yeah he's been bad these games.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Let's say they were traded just for this year. Again, Minnesota fans would take Bedard for Faber 1000 times out of 1000.

Well, actually 999/1000. The one dude said he would take Faber this year, LMAO.

 

[Fantomas]

Faber over Bedard for Calder is not a ridiculous opinion.

 

[Fraser28]

Faber over Bedard for Calder is not a ridiculous opinion.

Yes it really is.

You want to turn on some bad Bedard tape? These two games against the Stars are it. He’s been terrible.

I don’t disagree. But even still, he ends up with an assist today on a gorgeous power play goal.

 

[wetcoast]

Yeah he's been bad these games.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dallas won the SC this year they are strong, deep and built for a playoff run and it would be awesome to see Suter win one and Pavelski as well.

 

[LuGBuG]

Faber over Bedard for Calder is not a ridiculous opinion.

It unfortunately is. The 21 year old Dman in Minnesota will never be picked over the 18 year old phenom in Chicago if Bedard is putting up the stats.

Deserved or not is a different argument but there is unfortunately just no chance Bedard loses at this pace.

 

[Fantomas]

It unfortunately is. The 21 year old Dman in Minnesota will never be picked over the 18 year old phenom in Chicago if Bedard is putting up the stats.

Deserved or not is a different argument but there is unfortunately just no chance Bedard loses at this pace.

"Deserved or not" is the argument. I don't think Faber will be picked over Bedard either.

But Faber is arguably the rookie of the year.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I’ve got Fantilli and Hughes as two and three, both have been super impressive.

 

[LuGBuG]

I’ve got Fantilli and Hughes as two and three, both have been super impressive.

How many times have you watched Faber and Mintyukov

 

[Wasted Talent]

Faber came close to scoring a sweet goal against the Jets