The Race for the Calder Trophy

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I mean being on a worse team generally helps rookies...

Faber is playing 24 mins a night which is 1st pairing numbers and Knies is playing 14 mins a night which I am assuming is 3rd line numbers.

Knies 36th in TOI/GP.

Not saying anyone is better than anyone else, just that the strength of the team works against rookies sometimes too.
Oh I agree, which is one of many reasons why he won't win. But the user is just trying to troll or is just being a Leafs homer.
 
It's Bedard's trophy....it was the moment he was drafted. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it is what it is. There is no way the league isn't giving it to him.
 
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It's Bedard's trophy....it was the moment he was drafted. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it is what it is. There is no way the league isn't giving it to him.
The Calder should be labeled an illegitimate trophy if it's only given to the rookie with the most points, not the best rookie.
 
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It's Bedard's trophy....it was the moment he was drafted. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it is what it is. There is no way the league isn't giving it to him.
Probably.

But the league and its writers are getting more analytical year. And defense counts.
 
The Calder should be labeled an illegitimate trophy if it's only given to the rookie with the most points, not the best rookie.
Ultimately, as fans, we all know what trophies are these days. It's a points/popularity contest. So at least in 20 years or so when people are looking back and saying "well he won the Calder" or "he won the Norris", the fans will know that doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot anymore.
 
Hynes is running that kid into the ground. On the ice for all Montreal goals tonight. Might not be a coincidence.
 
The Calder should be labeled an illegitimate trophy if it's only given to the rookie with the most points, not the best rookie.

Sieder won it while being 4th in points for rookies so this is just silly talk. A defensemen does have to put up a decent point total though if they want to be in consideration for it. If there's a forward putting up 70-80 points, you best believe that any defensemen who wants to be seriously considered better put up around 50.
 
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Sieder won it while being 4th in points for rookies so this is just silly talk. A defensemen does have to put up a decent point total though if they want to be in consideration for it. If there's a forward putting up 70-80 points, you best believe that any defensemen who wants to be seriously considered better put up around 50.
He’s pacing ~42 and that number is increasing now that he has power play time.
 
He’s pacing ~42 and that number is increasing now that he has power play time.
Everyone agrees Faber is a very good. I wish the hawks had him. I have been arguing for Minnesota won that Fiala trade for a year now on the hawks board.

If Bedard puts up 75 points with 32 goals like hes pacing Faber just inst going to with the calder whether is fair or not I dunno you can argue if you want. That doesnt matter.

Hes got 7 points in his last 5 while they have been 1-4. Hes just dragging this team and improving while he figures out the NHL playing with nobodys.
 
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Everyone agrees Faber is a very good. I wish the hawks had him. I have been arguing for Minnesota won that Fiala trade for a year now on the hawks board.

If Bedard puts up 75 points with 32 goals like hes pacing Faber just inst going to with the calder whether is fair or not I dunno you can argue if you want. That doesnt matter.

Hes got 7 points in his last 5 while they have been 1-4. Hes just dragging this team and improving while he figures out the NHL playing with nobodys.
Then the Calder isn’t for the best rookie, it’s for the highest scoring rookie. Which makes it mess meaningful by basically eliminating any chance a defender has at the award.
 
Hes got 7 points in his last 5 while they have been 1-4. Hes just dragging this team and improving while he figures out the NHL playing with nobodys.
Faber has been playing 30 minutes a night with Middleton, and the broken corpses of Merrill and Goligoski around. Not to mention...uhhh Damon Hunt another rookie and Mermis who is a AHLer at this point. Let's not pump the tires on Bedard playing with no body when Faber is doing this.
 
Then the Calder isn’t for the best rookie, it’s for the highest scoring rookie. Which makes it mess meaningful by basically eliminating any chance a defender has at the award.
Unfortunately the award has become a scoring title for rookies. It's a bit unfair, there should be a defensive & offensive rookie of the year award. It's hard to compare Bedard to Faber, you can find a legit argument for both to win the Calder trophy.
 
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