Doughty is also a significantly better player. Of course he got more money. Lindholm was asking for more than 7 mil a year AAV to start. 6 would have been the very upper limit i would have gone before some of his peers like Risto and Jones signed new deals. Now I wouldn't go higher than 5.5/5.6 mil. If Lindholm wants to call that a cheap deal than whatever. hes the one losing money by refusing to sign. He still has no leverage. Maybe at some point he'l realize that, just like his peers.
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Doughty is also a significantly better player. Of course he got more money. Lindholm was asking for more than 7 mil a year AAV to start. 6 would have been the very upper limit i would have gone before some of his peers like Risto and Jones signed new deals. Now I wouldn't go higher than 5.5/5.6 mil. If Lindholm wants to call that a cheap deal than whatever. hes the one losing money by refusing to sign. He still has no leverage. Maybe at some point he'l realize that, just like his peers.
They should have saved the space pure and simple. If that means bringing players from the A to fill spots a low cost that is what you do in the cap world.
Interesting, I think some duck fans disagree with you with that; however, if Fowler is playing like crap, then he maybe hard to trade
The Ducks record argues otherwise. Oilers and Van are off to hot starts. Van's playing a Kings team with Budaj in net tonight. How big of a hole do the Ducks want to start the season in?
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I just didn't realize that Muray made so many of those stupid deals just recently. That and giving Kesler way too much. And hiring Carlyle as a coach (again). Definite candidate for the unemployment role with or without Lindholm getting signed.
The issue is going to be finding a team that can take on all $4M cap hit at this time without sending cap back. Eating $4M cuts the market for Fowler drastically and you probably aren't going to get the return you want since teams know the Ducks are being forced to trade him.
The easy fix (edit: for the Ducks GM) for this problem is trading Lindholm.
I'm sure anahiem isn't telling reporters anyting. They're as tight lipped as it gets. People like McKenzie speculate based on the informatrion they get from whatever sources they have. I doubt that info is coming from the Ducsk front office.
The only thing we've heard out of BM is that he'll deal with the cap when a deal is reached. What do you think the alternative is? The two sides have agreed on a contract , the two sides just won't sign it because they refuse to use LTIR?
Lindholm just watched the money for his contract go out the door this Summer.
Anaheim got off to one of the worst starts in their history last year and still won the division. You think one road trip puts any pressure on BM?
If it's one thing Anaheim has proven is that they can climb out of a huge early hole. It's not even November yet
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Fowler is playing great hockey right now. Their best player so far in this short season.
Saying that they should have just saved the space is just ignorance. Teams can't wait around all year for players to sign a deals.
Maybe they are starting to deal with it since they gained 200,000 in cap with the players switch with the A. There are many reasons a deal has not been signed, the most likely is the cap situation and/or the fabled internal cap the Ducks have. Either way, Ducks management screwed up big time. The problem is they cannot deal with it when the contract is signed now that the season has started, I believe they need the cap space first then signed. I guess they could have an agreement in principal then clear the cap space for him.
I think real reason is that there are no teams willing to take on the cap hit the ducks need to dump because of their own internal budgets and/or risk of putting themselves in the same position the ducks are next season.
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It's not against the CBA to be bad at your job. I think a lot of GMs, coaches and players are grateful for that.
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It's a possbility I guess. Just like it's also a possibility that they are just waiting for a deal to be made before putting Thompson and Depsres on LTIR. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
That is beyond stupid.
It's also kind of funny coming from a Jets fan. Chevy should be fined for not having traded Trouba yet. He's preventing the league from getting to watch him play.
Anaheim got off to one of the worst starts in their history last year and still won the division. You think one road trip puts any pressure on BM?
If it's one thing Anaheim has proven is that they can climb out of a huge early hole. It's not even November yet
The division has changed hasn't it. You'll also be playing without one of Fowler/Lindholm this year.
We'll see about that.
If that was the case Anaheim isn't going anywhere anyway so it doesn't really matter what kind of start we get off to. Either way the pressure argument doesn't fly.
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Unless you're Murray, you can't make that claim without being full of crap. Nothing personal, but you're trying to make an absolute statement without having the absolute proof to back up your statement.
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post 399 in the ANAvs NJ thread which is now locked from paul4587
maybe i it was
And your take from that is that Fowler isn't playing well? I'm not sure I follow your line of reasoning here.
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Fowler doesn't need to be signed this year, so I'm not sure what your point is. Fowler is signed, and he's signed to a very team friendly $4m.
I read the initial quote wrong, I thought they said he was playing bad and I was responding that he was playing well.
was interpreted by my brain as just "awful" English is hard sometimes
What are the other options?
1)Pay to move Bieksa/Stoner: looks bad for a GM that just brought in overpriced contracts.
2)LTIR: If everyone gets healthy at the same time they're worse off then they are now.
3)Trade Vat, not any different then losing 1 of Fowler/Lindholm
So how full of crap am I? Did I miss anything?
Ducks have about 300K space right now.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/ducks
They need 5-6M to sign Lindholm. They have to cut that money out of the roster somewhere.
Edit: The Ducks don't have the roster space to get both Fowler and Lindholm on the team right now and I'm not seeing how they come up with it.
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