OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: They Killed Kenny!

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Andy99

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KP to start

I don't understand the rush of throwing out a 2nd year QB with a gimpy leg. Especially since there is a bye next week.

KP won't make it through the season at this rate
Any chance this could all be a set up so the Ravens prep for him? That’s probably too clever for Tomlin Lol..
 

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Any chance this could all be a set up so the Ravens prep for him? That’s probably too clever for Tomlin Lol..
it has nothing to do with Tomlin, ask any player (even one that has his leg hanging by a thread) and they'll tell you they expect to play.
 
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The style of offense Tomlin wants is what the rams and 49ers run
The next oc is passing game coordinator Qb coach from Detroit Rams 49ers or Philly he wants play action qb movement sweeps motion using the TE he wants rpo

Lol no, That's what "you" want them to run. Tomlin isn't smart enough to run a pro offense. Or defense for that matter.
 

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It doesn’t matter who they prep for. All the QBs have looked the same in this system…shitty.
And that's where I'm with it. This really is torturous. Having to watch this team and then have them go 9-8 would be the most Mike Tomlin season ever.
 

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And that's where I'm with it. This really is torturous. Having to watch this team and then have them go 9-8 would be the most Mike Tomlin season ever.
The team, despite a lot of new personnel, is the same as last season: when they win (usually against bad to mediocre teams) they only win by 3-5 points, and when the lose, they lose big lol…already starting w a-38 point differential and we had a huge minus point differential last season
 

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Alex Kozora from Steelers Depot did a study on March 28, 2022 about the size of the coaching staffs in the NFL. Of 32 teams, the Steelers had the second smallest. New England had the smallest, but he qualified his comments with the fact that New England had several vacancies, and when filled, there number would increase. That may have changed a little in the last year, but the Steelers are not spending on Assistant coaches like other teams do.

Here is a link.

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/study ... ing-staff/
 

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Alex Kozora from Steelers Depot did a study on March 28, 2022 about the size of the coaching staffs in the NFL. Of 32 teams, the Steelers had the second smallest. New England had the smallest, but he qualified his comments with the fact that New England had several vacancies, and when filled, there number would increase. That may have changed a little in the last year, but the Steelers are not spending on Assistant coaches like other teams do.

Here is a link.

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/study ... ing-staff/
The Steelers hire their assistants the same way Ben and Jerry's hired their CEO.

In a contest titled "Yo! I Want to be CEO!", applicants were told to submit a 100-word essay and the lid of their favorite Ben & Jerry's flavor.


What could go wrong?
 
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Wait - the QB that sPitt brought in to start is being converted to a TE? Seriously? My god, that’s hilarious.

I know I’ve said this before, but I am incredibly grateful to a PSU fan. I can’t imagine how bad being a Pitt fan must suck right now, especially with their hated rivals being a combined 9-1, the only loss being WVU to PSU
 
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Wait - the QB that sPitt brought in to start is being converted to a TE? Seriously? My god, that’s hilarious.

I know I’ve said this before, but I am incredibly grateful to a PSU fan. I can’t imagine how bad being a Pitt fan must suck right now, especially with their hated rivals being a combined 9-1, the only loss being WVU to PSU
Also great that Christian is getting a chance to start for the rest if the season he wasn’t going to play at penn State obviously but he gets to live his dream
 

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From a YT comment. Well said

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Things I blamed Ben for but which have been a staple of this team with or without him. It's almost enough to where anyone with a functional brain would have to start to ask themselves who is really behind these decisions.

Remember when people blamed Ben for the lack of play-action passing?
2023: Kenny Picket has attempted 16 passes through 4 games, ranking him 25th in the league.
2022: The dynamic duo of Picket and Trubisky attempted 94 passes which would have been put them at 20th in the league. Picket ranked 28th. As a team, the Steelers ranked 28th.

Remember when people were blaming Ben for the heavy shotgun usage?
2023: Kenny Picket has been in the shotgun a blazing 75% of the time
2022: Steelers offense ran shotgun 67% of the time

Roethlisberger under Canada ran shotgun 71% of the time.

Remember when Roethlisberger was blamed for removing the motion from Matt Canada's offense? He's gone, guys. Where the f*** is the motion?

Remember when people blamed Ben for the u-shaped offense?

Remember how people blamed Ben for Randy Fichtner because they were supposedly buddies, but ignored the fact that Tomlin and Fichtner coached together in college and he was the first guy Tomlin called after getting the Steelers job? And Tomlin followed up that hire with Matt Canada.

It was just this past week where the piece of shit Ryan Clark tried to blame Ben for both of these decisions. Ben had something to do with Canada getting the job because he was his QB coach! (for 1 year, and he was really there to try and work with Mason Rudolph and so they had an in-house replacement for Fichtner).

I was personally told all these things, and I know I wasn't alone because I saw a lot of this shit get regurgitated on here and elsewhere. Once Ben was gone, the Steelers were going to open up and run a modern NFL offense with a creative run game, motion, and more under center play calling!

All of these trends hold true for the year Ben was hurt, as well. The Steelers usage of shotgun was higher with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges than it was any year Roethlisberger played, and there was no play-action to speak of.

People want Canada gone, but I say why bother? The guy at the top has already told us repeatedly that he signs off on every moronic play call.

We aren't even watching the Matt Canada offense. This wasn't what Canada did in college. This is some sort of hybrid of the Canada offense. A neutered version that Mike Tomlin will sign off on because he's inexplicably stupid enough to want his offense to do the verry things he drools over opposing offenses doing as a defensive play caller. Canada is just a figurehead. Only to a slightly lesser extent than Keith Butler and Austin who were completely cucked by Mediocre Mike, but who serve as fall guys while he builds the roster and calls the plays.

People assume that because Tomlin is a defensive guy, he meddles less in the offense...while telling us every play-call goes through him.

I'm well aware there aren't too many Tomlin defenders left around here or anywhere at the moment, though I've been fighting that fight for years, too. Far too many people haven't owned up to the fact that they signed off on this guy wasting the second half of Roethlisberger's career. So much shit got blamed on Ben because he was unlikeable to them.

Ryan Clark's comments set me off as much as anything Steeler related can these days because Ben was being used as a scapegoat once again to deflect blame from Tomlin. Which is the media's schtick at this point.

Give Ben Andy Reid as his coach, and we are talking about MVP statistical output. Instead, he had the albatross that was Mike Tomlin.

Steelers last 3 offensive coordinators are out of football unless we count whatever high school Haley ended up at.
 
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I wasn’t around to see Butkus play, but my memories of him are from a TV show I watched when I was a little kid.

Think it was My Two Dads with that annoying judge and Butkus was some diner owner I think?
 
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The people who blamed Ben for those issues were mostly just Tomlin jock riders. They’d blame anything before pointing the finger at Sir Aviators.

Didn’t ESPN have a show where they replaced a HS head coach with a famous football player? I think Butkus did it somewhere in PA. Montour?
 
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Mr Jiggyfly

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He was also in Miller Lite commercials with Bubba Smith

Don't recall them.

All the football I watched as a kid in the 90s and all I can remember are the "bad things man" commericals that had Hopper talking about guys like Bruce Smith and Hardy Nickerson.... can't even remember what it was for... Nike?

Anyway, with Butkus, he was known as the meanest SOB to ever lace up on the gridiron. Yet I think of him as this kindly diner owner from My 2 Dads instead.
 
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The people who blamed Ben for those issues were mostly just Tomlin jock riders. They’d blame anything before pointing the finger at Sir Aviators.

Didn’t ESPN have a show where they replaced a HS head coach with a famous football player? I think Butkus did it somewhere in PA. Montour?
You have it backwards.

If I remember the show correctly a beer league coordinator who the NFL coaches son played for was chosen to be the offensive coordinator of the NFL team.
 

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• Tomlin can't/wouldn't fire Matt Canada without consulting or even getting the blessing of Art Rooney. The same, because it'd be in-season, applies in the reverse. Rooney's only ever made moves of that scope unilaterally in the offseason, and almost always early at that. Told people that Poor Little Rich Kid Fart Rooney sticks his dick in the Punchbowl
 

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• Tomlin can't/wouldn't fire Matt Canada without consulting or even getting the blessing of Art Rooney. The same, because it'd be in-season, applies in the reverse. Rooney's only ever made moves of that scope unilaterally in the offseason, and almost always early at that. Told people that Poor Little Rich Kid Fart Rooney sticks his dick in the Punchbowl
Link? It's from a junior high newspaper?
 
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