OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Steelers need a new ball thrower for the handball game thingy

Buddy Bizarre

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And Sully could win another one, either here or somewhere else. Again, you have never cared to understand my critique of Sully, which is why you now think you have me caught.

Let me give you an analogy.

I'm in sales for a profession. Let's say I don't do the fundamentals with my profession, I stop cold calling. While my sales numbers are currently acceptable, my boss warns me that eventually not searching out to new customers will come back to bite me in the end.

Then I have a long drought, no sales and the boss is getting prepared to let me go. It's at this point one of my existing customers contacts me for a project that surpasses all of my goals for the entire year.

Was my boss wrong?

I think a better analogy is that you have a business that has a CEO/Prez that has been around for a very long time. The company makes money and is generally ok. The CEO/Prez isn't necessarily incompetent, but you're left wanting more. "We've always done it this way" is a common refrain in the halls and emails.

That's what Tomlin and Sully have been to me. It's just time to move on.
Because both people would be snapped up in a heartbeat with another organization and likely do quite well.

Just like Igor may be the NHL's best goalie doesn't make him the best goalie RIGHT now.

Edited to say that Sully this post season has proved me wrong. He has made tactical maneuvers that I have not seen the previous 3 playoff ousters.
 

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I believe that I stated above that I would have preferred him gone several years ago.

When you are posting stats to defend..no your not. Not that I care. I care that Sullivan gets treated like **** when he's the best we've had since Bowman and Badger bob.. And hell I love Therrian. That goofy mofo
 

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When you are posting stats to defend..no your not. Not that I care. I care that Sullivan gets treated like **** when he's the best since Bowman and Badger bob

Is he though? I mean he has the cups, but does that make him a better coach than Herb Brooks, Michel Therrien or EJ?

If Tomlin wins the Super Bowl this year, would that make all his critics wrong for pointing out his constant bungling the past decade?

I have been countering your logic from the start. You started this entire debate by conflating Sully's tenure/criticism to Tomlin's. I simply pointed out that critique of both is entirely fair.
 

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Is he though? I mean he has the cups, but does that make him a better coach than Herb Brooks, Michel Therrien or EJ?

If Tomlin wins the Super Bowl this year, would that make all his critics wrong for pointing out his constant bungling the past decade?

I have been countering your logic from the start. You started this entire debate by conflating Sully's tenure/criticism to Tomlin's. I simply pointed out that critique of both is entirely fair.

First of all Tomlin isn't winning another super bowl. Secondly. It was Arians and Lebeau that year. Tomlin was just there for the ride. Just like Bylsma. All the blood sweat and tears Therrian put in, Bylsma took it from him in months. How fair was that
 

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Idk. I see a guy who is an actual NHL quality type coach who gets continually **** on. Even if his expiration date is here, even if 6 years too long. And then I see another who has proven to be a fraud and a clown. His expiration already past. But always has excuses made for him (excuses Sullivan never gets away with).

But anyway you brought up that Tomlin has 2 trips to the Super Bowl like Sullivan's 2 trips to the Cup Finals means nothing. What is that about???

Don't you Tomlin haters ever get tired of complaining about him in every post? I'm not a great fan of his but I'd stop following the team if I felt that way about him.
 

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Don't you Tomlin haters ever get tired of complaining about him in every post? I'm not a great fan of his but I'd stop following the team if I felt that way about him.

Cool thanks for telling me off. Enjoy your 9-8 for record the next 10 years.

I don't mind mediocrity honestly but the Rooney's take it to a level that's un enjoyable.

But you do you!

Right now Rooney is just a step above the Flyers organization. It will only get worse here on out.
 
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Cool thanks for telling me off. Enjoy your 9-8 for record the next 10 years.

I don't mind mediocrity honestly but the Rooney's take to a level that's un enjoyable.

But you do you!

Right now Rooney is just a step above the Flyers organization. It will only get worse here on out.

I was not telling you off more hoping you would stop and think for a moment.

It reminds of the JMJ hate and his name coming up in every post here. It's tiring.
 

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Don't you Tomlin haters ever get tired of complaining about him in every post? I'm not a great fan of his but I'd stop following the team if I felt that way about him.
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I'm really curious where they are going to play Leal. A lot of things I have read have said he's not going to hold up as a 5-technique. Is he explosive enough of be an edge rusher like Woodley was? Really curious as to where they are going to put him.
 

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He tweeted minutes later clarifying not to play, just to retire
Most likely his agent immediately reached out to the Steelers to gauge interest and was met with a hard no...:laugh:

I still think Arians lost his job over AB. Touchdown Tommy knew the importance of AB to last year......but coach had to coach.
 

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Why not?

Even if ends up disruptive, the upside is worth the risk. AB for all of his parts is still uncoverable. TB wins the Super Bowl last year if he's there.

Yea we won so many Championships with AB and Bell on the team

I hated that "era" of the Steelers. Both those dudes were ahole clowns along with Martavius
 
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Coastal Kev

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Yea we won so many Championships with AB and Bell on the team

I hated that "era" of the Steelers. Both those dudes were ahole clowns along with Martavius
agree 1000%. and I understand not bringing him back..... he's a handful, complete loon.

Dude can ball, and don't lump Bell or MB with him. I always thought that Ben helped make Ab...... I think I had that order messed up in retrospect.
 

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