DL, WR, and OT seem like the three needs I want them to hit over the next 3 picks. Not sure I've got any particularly higher than the others.
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DL, WR, and OT seem like the three needs I want them to hit over the next 3 picks. Not sure I've got any particularly higher than the others.
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As someone who has had minimal interest in the Steelers/NFL for the last 5+ years, this Pickett selection has me excited.
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We’ll find out. If Trubisky finds his game, then you can trade Pickett. Steelers killed it this offseason!
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Pickett in college vs the few high level programs he played (Clemson, Notre Dame, Penn State)
1-5 record, 4 TD, 6 INT
Pickett first 4 years as a starter
39 TD, 25 INT / 61% completion %
1-5 record, 4 TD, 6 INT
Pickett first 4 years as a starter
39 TD, 25 INT / 61% completion %
domaug
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you can pick apart anyone's stats with the right framing
and with all due respect, those numbers won't mean anything the moment camp starts
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he picked Pickett's best competition which is when he sucked. he played great against the crappy teams, big deal
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3 of those came as a “red shirt freshman.” One against Clemson from 2020 where most of the interceptions came happened a couple games after he had ankle surgery that left him way less than 100%.
Also the first four years as a starter implies that he started for four full years. His true freshman year, he started one game where they beat the number 2 team in the country.
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The Steelers told EVERYONE they were drafting a QB. All of the draftniks just need to listen to them. The Steelers of the Tombert era do not do “smokescreens”. It wasn’t going to be any other position besides QB. Saying the guy they loved got picked the Steelers selected is bullshit. They were picking a QB. They kept saying it.
Also The Steelers of the Tombert era don’t trade down. All of these masturbatory fantasies of trading back and acquiring up multiple picks NEVER happen under Tombert. Good news for the draft heads is that the Tombert era is over so keep hoping next years is the year the Steelers finally move back in the draft.
I am so happy they didn’t trade up. I thought they might. I think Pickett is better than Willis. I’m happy they picked him over Willis. Ultimately Only time will tell. . I am curious as hell to see how this plays out.
Also The Steelers of the Tombert era don’t trade down. All of these masturbatory fantasies of trading back and acquiring up multiple picks NEVER happen under Tombert. Good news for the draft heads is that the Tombert era is over so keep hoping next years is the year the Steelers finally move back in the draft.
I am so happy they didn’t trade up. I thought they might. I think Pickett is better than Willis. I’m happy they picked him over Willis. Ultimately Only time will tell. . I am curious as hell to see how this plays out.
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For 4 years he threw 13 tds a year Nathan peterman was better his 1st year at Pitt than Addison shows up Pickett gets a super senior year he explodes on a down acc.
domaug
Play Virtua Fighter, let's go Pens
well Jesus Christ i have no idea why anyone would ever draft a QB then since almost none of them handily beat any teams that are NFL quality while they're in college.
again, you can pick apart anyone's game with the right framing. you do understand that there's other context beyond "these were his best opponents, i'm not telling you the years or any other information, but BOY did he SUCK", right?
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I think D-line is more important than WR. Who knows about Tuitt and Alualu. Without those guys, they couldn't stop the run at all and because of it, it took what should have been one of the better defenses in the league and made it a liability. Even if they are both back, Alualu doesn't have so much time left and it would be good to be able to spell Heyward as he's getting up there, too. They need a WR for sure, but DJ, Claypool, Muth, and Harris is a decent start. They've had more success finding WR in later rounds as well.
I'm not sure how I feel about DL vs. OT. Neither Moore or Chuks are studs by any stretch, but the OL in general should be improved with the FA signings. The DL is definitely better off IF Tuitt and Alualu are back, but at the same time, the DL is older and will only be getting worse over the next few years. Moore and Chuks are still young and theoretically could be getting better.
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They tried to trade up to 15 but the Texans decided not to trade down that would have been the 4th time they traded up for a player under Colbert. Colbert doesn’t trade down that is his thing he did it once for Hampton under cowher l. The GM before him didn’t trade up much. I am not mad at QB I am mad that they took the guy who will always be the 4th best Qb in the division and top out at 12th in the afc
But only one of those came in his final year, right? The Clemson game, which he won?
Feel like unless there's compelling reason to think his final season was some flash in the pan overperformance and not the dude becoming a better football player, those four seasons prior don't really matter in the evaluation and projection.
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Unless they are paying tagging DJ 20 million WR is way more important again I think cb and olb3 are ahead of Dline. The Dline has 6 guys plus 2 body’s and in 2020 was the best d line in football. Chuks got a 3 year deal and 2 other teams liked him enough they had to offer more money he is fine. We played with Marcus Gilbert marvel smith at RT in the super bowl
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should trade up and take Pickens now, he wont last past the ravens
DL and OT read the same to me. Theoretically fine if everyone's fit and firing. Moment that's not true, or they need to send cover on, have fun with that! WR - again, those four ready okay (although I'm not sold on Claypool right now) but it doesn't feel deep enough for the importance of the position.
I'd agree that DL's recent injury history and age make them a bit more of a priority, but if the draft's going in a way where they need to put another player before them and can still get a good DL later, that's fine.
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This sounds exactly like the stupidity last year at this time when people knocked around Mac Jones.
Dude ended up being better than all the other “elite” QBs taken before him.
Some of us who aren’t blinded by the new age QB BS insisted Jones would excel because he was an accurate and cerebral QB.
KP will excel because he has the same traits.
The QB position will always be about quick processing and accuracy - no amount of freak athletes becoming the in thing will ever change that.
Coastal Kev
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Maybe you should watch the Kurt Warner video I posted earlier. It's never an exact science when a qb get's it at any level. What you are looking for are traits that will apply to the next level, Pickett has those in spades. It doesn't guarantee anything. I was confident when the Steelers drafted Roth back in 04 that they hit on a great one. But it wasn't a sure thing; You had to see it. For me, it was the road win against Dallas that secured my hopes.
Pickett was the best chance for the future last night when the time came for them to make their selection. The Steelers just doubled their odds at the leagues most important position. If Mitch surprises and wins the position, great. But if he dinks and dunks, fails to score TD's and shows little growth from his time in Chicago, the Steelers now have a PLAN B>
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Um everyone knew jones was going to the best QB in year one of his class he had the lowest ceiling highest floor. Everyone knew fields and Lance would need time and Trevor was doomed going to Jacksonville with no WR or TE to throw to. Tons of people said Pickett would be the 6th or 7th QB in last years class. Your not winning the division with Mac jones. New England never asked jones to win games either
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While I am happy with the Pickett pick. I can see the consternation with the pick.
But one thing I do like about Pickett is that he looked at himself and asked around seeking advice from NFl QBs and advisors to see what he needed to work on to be a better QB. He then stayed another year and continued to worked on his craft and he got better because of it.
I also firmly believe in QBs that play multiple years in college instead of these one year wonder guys.
And while I really like Trent McDuffie, Looking at who is left, he is the only guy I can say that I would definitely like to see over Pickett. But when you throw in the position need, and that pretty much every scout and draftnik has stated that the players rated from 20-50 are interchangeable, I don't have an issue with the pick.
Now I hope they trade up in the 2nd and grab a WR. My thought would be like this years 2nd and next years 2nd to the Jets for the 38th pick. But only if Skyy Moore is still there.
But one thing I do like about Pickett is that he looked at himself and asked around seeking advice from NFl QBs and advisors to see what he needed to work on to be a better QB. He then stayed another year and continued to worked on his craft and he got better because of it.
I also firmly believe in QBs that play multiple years in college instead of these one year wonder guys.
And while I really like Trent McDuffie, Looking at who is left, he is the only guy I can say that I would definitely like to see over Pickett. But when you throw in the position need, and that pretty much every scout and draftnik has stated that the players rated from 20-50 are interchangeable, I don't have an issue with the pick.
Now I hope they trade up in the 2nd and grab a WR. My thought would be like this years 2nd and next years 2nd to the Jets for the 38th pick. But only if Skyy Moore is still there.
Again you can’t get blinded by just looking at the stat line.
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Not looking at just stats if you tell me we go and trade up for Addison next year so Pickett can have his chase then sure but they don’t believe he is the guy. They said all 3 will compete this is throwing crap on the wall and hope something sticks
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Agreed. BPA is still the way to go. I'm just talking generically. I don't follow the draft close enough to say this DL is the guy they should take in R2 or this or that WR would be available in R3 or R4. Just historically, I feel like they have had more success with WR in the later rounds. Who's the last DL they took after R2 that had any impact whatsoever? Keisel?
