OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Steelers need a new ball thrower for the handball game thingy

[ChaosAgent]

This is too spot on. Like....it makes me question if it's been you the whole time

i am who you think I am. They compare me to Joe F andy d it's like when the Eagles looked at the size of nick f's member it's huge

 

[The Old Master]

to be honest, all the guys i was hoping to fall to us got taken. so i don't view kp as a reach.

 

[spcastlemagic]

Love the pick. QBs are so difficult to evaluate... Kenny at least, has the sauce, he has that dawg in him, that boy nice etc...

 

[Coastal Kev]

To the.........Draft BPA and get your qb next year crowd:

Who in this list is the guy you want and is clearly a better prospect than KP?

2023 NFL QB draft prospects

THE TOP TIER

• Bryce Young, Alabama Crimson Tide.
• C.J. Stroud, Ohio State Buckeyes.
• Spencer Rattler, South Carolina Gamecocks.
• Anthony Richardson, Florida Gators.
• Kedon Slovis, Pitt Panthers.
• Phil Jurkovec, Boston College Eagles.
• Will Levis, Kentucky Wildcats.
• Tyler Van Dyke, Miami Hurricanes.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Mac Jones wasn’t some amazing rookie @Mr Jiggyfly and his warts were very evident down the stretch. He looks like a long term middle tier starter like Dalton or Cousins.

If I was a Pats fan I’d be concerned about his ceiling and if I was a fan of the teams who picked QBs before he went I wouldn’t have any FOMO. Would rather have Mills too.

However only time will tell.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

To the.........Draft BPA and get your qb next year crowd:

Who in this list is the guy you want and is clearly a better prospect than KP?

2023 NFL QB draft prospects

THE TOP TIER

• Bryce Young, Alabama Crimson Tide.
• C.J. Stroud, Ohio State Buckeyes.
• Spencer Rattler, South Carolina Gamecocks.
• Anthony Richardson, Florida Gators.
• Kedon Slovis, Pitt Panthers.
• Phil Jurkovec, Boston College Eagles.
• Will Levis, Kentucky Wildcats.
• Tyler Van Dyke, Miami Hurricanes.

I mean this is a good point and why they did it this year. Reality is most of those 2023 guys are going to drop themselves below even a Pickett level with their play.

but to play ball w/ your question… at this current point in time— Stroud, Young, and Richardson. Obviously subject to change.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Mac Jones wasn’t some amazing rookie @Mr Jiggyfly and his warts were very evident down the stretch. He looks like a long term middle tier starter like Dalton or Cousins.

If I was a Pats fan I’d be concerned about his ceiling and if I was a fan of the teams who picked QBs before he went I wouldn’t have any FOMO. Would rather have Mills too.

However only time will tell.

In fairness to Mac, who was he throwing to? I agree that Jones isn't a certainty.........but people want to blame the qb first, second and third.

A lot of times these kids are put into no win opportunities.

 

[Night Shift]

Mac Jones is a rookie and not a finished product.

 

[Coastal Kev]

I mean this is a good point and why they did it this year. Reality is most of those 2023 guys are going to drop themselves below even a Pickett level with their play.

but to play ball w/ your question… at this current point in time— Stroud, Young, and Richardson. Obviously subject to change.

Young & Stroud are a pass for me......not sure about Richardson, I'll have a better look this season.

Again, teams buy into a narrative as much as the fans do. So many teams tried to do the "smart" pick, rather than taking the obvious pick.

I would lay money that if New Orleans still had Payton, they would have took KP, he would have started day 1 and they are challenging for playoffs and beyond next year.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

In fairness to Mac, who was he throwing to? I agree that Jones isn't a certainty.........but people want to blame the qb first, second and third.

A lot of times these kids are put into no win opportunities.

Definitely fair but he had great TEs and a crew of solid receiving RBs with a proven playcaller/OC… and wasn’t asked to do a whole lot. They ran the ball pretty well too.

Not a ton of star talent around him is valid but at the same time, he was in a cushy spot relative to your typical 1st round QB (see Fields, Lawrence).

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Young & Stroud are a pass for me......not sure about Richardson, I'll have a better look this season.

Again, teams by into a narrative as much as the fans do. So many teams tried to do the "smart" pick, rather than taking the obvious pick.

I would lay money that if New Orleans still had Payton, they would have took KP, he would have started day 1 and they are challenging for playoffs and beyond next year.

Richardson is type of guy that could lose his starting job or go 1st overall. So much talent and flashed it in a small sample; but such a wide range of outcomes lmao

 

[Coastal Kev]

Definitely fair but he had great TEs and a crew of solid receiving RBs with a proven playcaller/OC… and wasn’t asked to do a whole lot. They ran the ball pretty well too.

Not a ton of star talent around him is valid but at the same time, he was in a cushy spot relative to your typical 1st round QB (see Fields, Lawrence).

Is that OC proven? He flopped on his own, his only success came with Brady. We'll see how does in his new job. And I'm only post Eastwood because I like him.

 

[Coastal Kev]

I may call into Madden and blast away at him with the logic that I posted here. I'm certain he won't have a response other than hanging up.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

In fairness to Mac, who was he throwing to? I agree that Jones isn't a certainty.........but people want to blame the qb first, second and third.

A lot of times these kids are put into no win opportunities.

They spend a ton of money in free agency they signed the top 2 te Henry and Smith. They signed 2 wr Bourne and agolor. They invested 163 million in guaranteed money on the team before drafting him. They still only finished a half game ahead of us

 

[MayorofWBS]

To the.........Draft BPA and get your qb next year crowd:

Who in this list is the guy you want and is clearly a better prospect than KP?

2023 NFL QB draft prospects

THE TOP TIER

• Bryce Young, Alabama Crimson Tide.
• C.J. Stroud, Ohio State Buckeyes.
• Spencer Rattler, South Carolina Gamecocks.
• Anthony Richardson, Florida Gators.
• Kedon Slovis, Pitt Panthers.
• Phil Jurkovec, Boston College Eagles.
• Will Levis, Kentucky Wildcats.
• Tyler Van Dyke, Miami Hurricanes.

Young and Stroud are better prospects. Hard to predict who will be a one year wonder like Baby Hands was this year. There is always some QB that comes out of the blue. Gun to my head, I'd predict Will Levis out of that list will be next year's one hit QB to cash out big in the NFL draft. Body like Tazan, athletic, mobile, big lively arm, in the SEC as his positives.

 

[Coastal Kev]

They spend a ton of money in free agency they signed the top 2 te Henry and Smith. They signed 2 wr Bourne and agolor. They invested 163 million in guaranteed money on the team before drafting him. They still only finished a half game ahead of us

Agholor? He had one season that barely sniff 900 yards. Other than that, his career screams extremely average at best.

Bourne???? Much of the same........ironically his best season coming last year.

I think my point stands

 

[OnMyOwn]

This sounds exactly like the stupidity last year at this time when people knocked around Mac Jones.

Dude ended up being better than all the other “elite” QBs taken before him.

Some of us who aren’t blinded by the new age QB BS insisted Jones would excel because he was an accurate and cerebral QB.

KP will excel because he has the same traits.

The QB position will always be about quick processing and accuracy - no amount of freak athletes becoming the in thing will ever change that.

One of his most celebrated attributes is how he progresses through reads. That’s probably the most important thing to me and why I was scared away from Willis.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

I never remember that they moved the 1st round to a friggin' Thursday.

Oh well...just glad we didn't pick someone dumb enough to go to Liberty.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Agholor? He had one season that barely sniff 900 yards. Other than that, his career screams extremely average at best.

Bourne???? Much of the same........ironically his best season coming last year.

I think my point stands

Yet they got paid 13 million a year for 2 for Aghlor and 15 million a year for 3 years for Bourne from New England

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I would lay money that if New Orleans still had Payton, they would have took KP, he would have started day 1 and they are challenging for playoffs and beyond next year.

Im on board with the Pickett selection so no reason to argue with you but i want to take this bet just to see how we’re going to determine who wins.

 

[edog37]

Baby hands hasn't played any games in December or January in Pittsburgh. In fact, he's only played once in Pittsburgh the last week in November. Baby Hands is a total unknown to playing in adverse weather.

tell me exactly which QB out there in the FBS has played a down in inclement weather in Dec/Jan at any point in their college career? The season ends in Nov & if they go to a bowl, it's usually in the south. Or if in the north, they play it in a dome. This has to be one of the most absurd takes on here.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

One of his most celebrated attributes is how he progresses through reads. That’s probably the most important thing to me and why I was scared away from Willis.

Exactly.

People focus on the wrong things in the wrong order.

Analogous was during the cup year I was trying to explain to a couple of Ducks' fans that the Pens were a speed team. But it was not Rico Fata speed. But that they quickly knew where the other players on the ice were and made quick crisp passes up the ice.

Similar here. Pickett would not win a foot race with Willis. Nor pass the ball down the field as far in some pee wee football contest.

But I would bet dimes to dollars he will make his progressions and find the correct option and then get the ball to him faster and much more accurately as both progress through their pro careers.

What is the more important skill?

 

[The Old Master]

What is the more important skill?

poseing with a babe or two on the cover of si. would be my choice.

 

[MayorofWBS]

tell me exactly which QB out there in the FBS has played a down in inclement weather in Dec/Jan at any point in their college career? The season ends in Nov & if they go to a bowl, it's usually in the south. Or if in the north, they play it in a dome. This has to be one of the most absurd takes on here.

If an absurd take...why are you literally parroting the same thing I said? Reading comprehension is a b***h. Baby Hands ability to play effectively in adverse weather is TBD. He may or may not be okay.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Im on board with the Pickett selection so no reason to argue with you but i want to take this bet just to see how we’re going to determine who wins.

Let me hold your money until I figure it out.... ok?