OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: 5 and 2 Justin who? Hand the Fields to Wilson

[Goalie_Bob]

They have a rough schedule ahead Ravens KC and Atlanta plus already lost to the chargers once

Yeah. They ain’t trading Sutton.

People need to move the f*** on.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

I think it is painfully obvious that any QB coming out of college should not leave college until after their junior years. Anyone who comes out earlier is always insanely raw and unready.

That's not a "the NFL doesn't develop QBs" problem, it's "QBs are leaving college too early to get money" problem.

If a team waves 30-40 mil in your face you have to take it. Aka Trey Lance.

It’s absolutely an NFL problem. They can’t help themselves.

 

[Peat]

If a team waves 30-40 mil in your face you have to take it. Aka Trey Lance.

It’s absolutely an NFL problem. They can’t help themselves.

You don't have to. We've seen guys projected as top 10 picks go back to school for an extra year. Fashanu did. Herbert did.

I mean the NFL is absolutely part of this and has its own problems here, but the kids can make their own choices here and at times make bad ones. Arguably, any guy like Lance and Richardson who comes out when they do is telling their own story of how they don't trust themselves to still be top 10 picks after NFL teams get to see more of their film.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You don't have to. We've seen guys projected as top 10 picks go back to school for an extra year. Fashanu did. Herbert did.

I mean the NFL is absolutely part of this and has its own problems here, but the kids can make their own choices here and at times make bad ones. Arguably, any guy like Lance and Richardson who comes out when they do is telling their own story of how they don't trust themselves to still be top 10 picks after NFL teams get to see more of their film.

This is exactly it and I think the Herbert example is a great one. I also think you can throw Mahomes in that category as well, he led the NCAA in passing yards, TDs and yards/game as a sophomore but still came back for his junior year. He was even better passing in his junior year and cleaned up his interceptions, then he also sat for a year for KC.

I think players are making huge mistakes coming out of college to chase money when they're not ready for the NFL, and the NFL only cares about winning. Can you criticize the NFL for not focusing on development enough? Sure, but if you're a sophomore QB coming out of college and end up a bust, it's your own fault for leaving college early.

 

[TooManyHumans]

I'm taking the sure money. Anything can happen with another year in college, not the least of which is a devastating injury.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Random thought, how did Waitman not have a job the last year??

He's been a way under the radar surprise. Deserves as much praise as anyone on special teams.

 

[Peat]

I suppose it's easy to be wise in retrospect and say guys like Lance, Richardson, and other one year starters never had a hope. Reality is there were some very respected NFL guys willing to make bets on them. If Shanahan/Steichen/O'Connell etc.etc. were all talking about me as a top five pick, would I tell them they were tripping? Hell no.

But if guys like Shanahan and Steichen can't turn Lance and Richardson into NFLers, it's time for everyone to rethink what they're doing.

 

[JTG]

Also hands up everyone who had Calvin Austin as our second highest TD scorer at this point in the season?

I thought it was possible if he could get on the same page as Russ. It looks like they are.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851340285768515971

That's good advice. It will also force these QBs to go to different schools and maybe spread the wealth a bit.

 

[JTG]

Random thought, how did Waitman not have a job the last year??

Especially when Harvin was shanking punts left and right. Both of these punters this year have been well above the bar.