OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: 5 and 2 Justin who? Hand the Fields to Wilson

[Goalie_Bob]

They have a rough schedule ahead Ravens KC and Atlanta plus already lost to the chargers once

Yeah. They ain’t trading Sutton.

People need to move the f*** on.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

I think it is painfully obvious that any QB coming out of college should not leave college until after their junior years. Anyone who comes out earlier is always insanely raw and unready.

That's not a "the NFL doesn't develop QBs" problem, it's "QBs are leaving college too early to get money" problem.

If a team waves 30-40 mil in your face you have to take it. Aka Trey Lance.

It’s absolutely an NFL problem. They can’t help themselves.

 

[Peat]

If a team waves 30-40 mil in your face you have to take it. Aka Trey Lance.

It’s absolutely an NFL problem. They can’t help themselves.

You don't have to. We've seen guys projected as top 10 picks go back to school for an extra year. Fashanu did. Herbert did.

I mean the NFL is absolutely part of this and has its own problems here, but the kids can make their own choices here and at times make bad ones. Arguably, any guy like Lance and Richardson who comes out when they do is telling their own story of how they don't trust themselves to still be top 10 picks after NFL teams get to see more of their film.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You don't have to. We've seen guys projected as top 10 picks go back to school for an extra year. Fashanu did. Herbert did.

I mean the NFL is absolutely part of this and has its own problems here, but the kids can make their own choices here and at times make bad ones. Arguably, any guy like Lance and Richardson who comes out when they do is telling their own story of how they don't trust themselves to still be top 10 picks after NFL teams get to see more of their film.

This is exactly it and I think the Herbert example is a great one. I also think you can throw Mahomes in that category as well, he led the NCAA in passing yards, TDs and yards/game as a sophomore but still came back for his junior year. He was even better passing in his junior year and cleaned up his interceptions, then he also sat for a year for KC.

I think players are making huge mistakes coming out of college to chase money when they're not ready for the NFL, and the NFL only cares about winning. Can you criticize the NFL for not focusing on development enough? Sure, but if you're a sophomore QB coming out of college and end up a bust, it's your own fault for leaving college early.

 

[TooManyHumans]

I'm taking the sure money. Anything can happen with another year in college, not the least of which is a devastating injury.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Random thought, how did Waitman not have a job the last year??

He's been a way under the radar surprise. Deserves as much praise as anyone on special teams.

 

[Peat]

I suppose it's easy to be wise in retrospect and say guys like Lance, Richardson, and other one year starters never had a hope. Reality is there were some very respected NFL guys willing to make bets on them. If Shanahan/Steichen/O'Connell etc.etc. were all talking about me as a top five pick, would I tell them they were tripping? Hell no.

But if guys like Shanahan and Steichen can't turn Lance and Richardson into NFLers, it's time for everyone to rethink what they're doing.

 

[JTG]

Also hands up everyone who had Calvin Austin as our second highest TD scorer at this point in the season?

I thought it was possible if he could get on the same page as Russ. It looks like they are.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851340285768515971

That's good advice. It will also force these QBs to go to different schools and maybe spread the wealth a bit.

 

[JTG]

Random thought, how did Waitman not have a job the last year??

Especially when Harvin was shanking punts left and right. Both of these punters this year have been well above the bar.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Most QBs in the NFL don't really grasp the position until age 27 or 28. It's just a very complicated position to play on top of the leadership skills needed, etc. Money drives these decisions but teams really need to stop giving up on guys if they're not an All-Pro by year 3.

 

[Pens x]

Khan is going to get caught with his pants down again like he did with Aiyuk, isnt he?

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Khan is going to get caught with his pants down again like he did with Aiyuk, isnt he?

He might get bailed out if RW elevates Ca3 and Jefferson
I think we see alot of 2 man routes like he ran in Denver and he here he has Washington and Muth to work with

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

What would solve the young QB issue is a better approach to drafting QBs by teams. How many guys in the last 20 years who shouldn't have been first round picks - let alone high first-rounders - have been taken in the top 15-20. Then you get bigger chunks of money tied up in the guy, but he's not ready, but cap and percentage of cap dictates that you need to "win now" and "see what we have" with a player who should be being coached up and holding a clipboard (or still in college). Clubs have to get over FOMO.

 

[wheelz87]

Pitt suddenly +8 at SMU. Word must be out that Holstein isn’t going to play.

Going to be a damn shame if this fun season ends because he can't go. SMU QB banged up too but they have a solid backup.

Random thought, how did Waitman not have a job the last year??

But for real. We've have two punters this year better than Harvin. WTF did we employ him for so long..