Mr Jiggyfly
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Whose your top 5 or even 10?
I’m going with anyone who has won a playoff game the last five, soon to be six years.
Or is this like top five cliche makers?
Whose your top 5 or even 10?
So all he has to do is win a playoff game and he will be a top 6 coach?I’m going with anyone who has won a playoff game the last five, soon to be six years.
Or is this like top five cliche makers?
So all he has to do is win a playoff game and he will be a top 6 coach?
I don't think being slower makes you a more efficient passer, I think there are dramatically less men who can run a 4.4 and play qb at an NFL level than people who are of average speed.
And, if you have that kind of speed, odds are you are going to be playing a skill position in college.
It is such a bizarre thing to complain about.
Right now -Whose your top 5 or even 10?
Right now -
Reid, McVay, McDaniel, Sirianni, Shanahan, Belichick. McDermott and Lefleur are on the same level. Harbaugh has a lower win percentage overall but a much higher win percentage in the playoffs, and has been to more playoff games. Kevin O'Connell is looking pretty good.
He's not a good coach man. He stepped into an amazing situation with a top 10 ranked offense and defense, and a defensive genius as a coordinator and a legit franchise/generational QB entering his prime. Since 2018 he's 41-31-2. We haven't won a playoff game. Coaches have been fired for better.
Harbaugh has two playoff wins in the last ten years. He and Tomlin are at the same level.
Harbaugh has two playoff wins in the last ten years. He and Tomlin are at the same level.
Harbaugh has also won a SB more recently than Tomlin
Harbaugh has also won a SB more recently than Tomlin
I don’t really care about people’s opinions on Tomlin at this point, but there’s just a massive double standard when talking about him and guys like Harbaugh.
Harbaugh won a Super Bowl 10 years ago. Since then he’s won two playoff games. Its the same shit people get on Tomlin for.
In their careers:
Super Bowl Wins: Same
Super Bowl Appearances: Advantage Tomlin
Conference Championship Appearances: Same
Am I supposed to be super impressed that Harbaugh won a couple more wild card games? Would people’s opinion on Tomlin really be different if he won a few more wild card games? Not likely.
Never mind that Harbaugh consistenly outcoaches Tomlin head to head.. Harbaugh adapts a adjusts scheme to fit the type of personnel they have (I.e. Lamar)
What has Tomlin ever done?
This just straight up isn’t true though. Tomlin has a 16-14 record against Harbaugh. That includes going 2-1 against him in the playoffs.
And Harbaugh deserves credit for adapting to Jackson. But he’s also severely limiting his development as a passer but keeping Greg Roman as the OC. And what exactly has Harbaugh won with Jackson? He better hope he can do something this year before having to pay him 50 million.
The last 4 matchups were won by Tomlin. You have to go back 2019 to see the ravens beat the SteelersMost of Tomlin's wins vs Harbaugh were early on and I will give you Tomlin had success recently, but It's been all Harbaugh through the middle years.
Harbaugh also isn't afraid to fire his OC. Did it the year they won.
The last 4 matchups were won by Tomlin. You have to go back 2019 to see the ravens beat the Steelers
Rivera might be fired if Washington misses the playoffs.
Carrol has multiple losing seasons with Wilson
McDermott and Reid have the best 2Qbs in the league
This is pretty disingenuous.
If we go to 2011, when Tomlin started his horrid playoff runs with the Tebow Debacle, he has 3 playoff wins, No SBs. No playoff wins in likely six seasons.
In that time Harbaugh has a SB win and seven playoff wins. He’s done that with Joe Flacco, then drafted and developed LJ.
So it’s not really even close who has been more successful in that time.
To be fair they don’t win their Super Bowl without Flacco. He was shockingly good during that run. 1100 yards, 11 TDs, no picks while outplaying Luck, Manning, and Brady.
Flacco isn’t even close to going to the HOF though. He’s just a dude people in 20 years will say “he won a SB… really?”
Harbaugh has also developed another pro bowl QB in that time, while having over double the playoff wins.
He also has a winning playoff record, while Tomlin has a losing one.
Again, it’s just disingenuous to say they are the same when Harbaugh has clearly done more with less, has significantly more playoff wins since 2011, a winning playoff record, and had a massive hand in drafting and developing a unique QB talent.