The Out of Town Thread CVIII - Free Agency Edition
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Bloumeister
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Was tempted to do something when it happened, but I got lazy
Should have done it, especially since this is the actual pickup ROR was driving:
'shooping gold
MasterDecoy
Who took my beer?
You know if the Pens or Avs do bad, their fanbases will blame these those two players for not training enough in the off-season.
Ohashi_Jouzu*
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ROR
And afterwards they went to visit the family of a friend of a friend (who I used to play hockey with... yeah, this town really is that small) who has a terminally ill child, and my brother saw them at Cabot Cliffs (new course in Cape Breton... pretty amazing I guess) when he was there. Guess they were in the foursome behind them, and got to talk to them a bit before they private jetted back to Hali from the new executive airport up there.
Meanwhile, Brad Marchand is drunk dancing on bars. And people wonder why Halifax takes pride in producing Sid/Mac and ignores the existence of the Nose...
Habsfan2731
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Thank you, I'm more trying to get into sports management, scouting, coaching etc... I'm writing to currently help myself open up all fields as its really hard to get any sort of break!
I appreciate the input, thank you!
Sterling Archer
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http://www.tsn.ca/flyers-sign-voracek-to-eight-year-deal-1.33859
Another team in the East not to worry about for the next few years.
Another team in the East not to worry about for the next few years.
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Lebowski
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With the raising cap, he'll probably be worth around 9M by the time he needs to be resigned.
Price will be more intriguing. With the recent contract to Lundqvist/Bobrovsky/Rask, he could be pushing the 10M as well at that point...
DAChampion
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I'm inclined to think that Pacioretty is unlikely to be worth 9 million ...
But his production could explode once he's no longer held back by Desharnais.
But his production could explode once he's no longer held back by Desharnais.
ECWHSWI
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we're seeing 60 pts players signing for more or less 7M now... so in 2 or 3 years, if he gets closer to 70, or even surpass it... it's possible.
Deluded Puck
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How naive do you have to be to think Pacioretty is "held back" by Desharnais... I have no issue with people saying DD has no impact on his offensive output. But him holding back Pacioretty? Come on. What do you think Pacioretty would do without Desharnais? Score 65 goals?
As for Voracek, no implications on Pacioretty. Not at all in fact. The guy was a top scorer in the league this season. Pacioretty has yet to do that. I also think the Flyers were sharp to sign him to such a deal. This guy would've cost a leg and an arm in the offseason.
Keep in mind that Max is on a deal right now that has him "underpaid" vis-a-vis his peers.
By his next contract, provided he simply maintains his current level of play/production, I'd expect him to expect a deal that makes him one of the highest paid LW's in the league... And he'll find some team willing to pay him as such should he hit the UFA market.
Every deal that gets signed btw now & his next contract has a huge implication on his eventual contract. To argue otherwise ignores how contract negotiation unfolds.
BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...there are 4 players in the entire League that have scored as many goals as Patches has in the last 4 years...so yes, Voracek's contract does impact Pacioretty's next one...
hototogisu
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Agreed. Even with an elite playmaking center I don't think Pacioretty's goal totals would jump much at all considering 99% of his goals are his own doing, mainly from shooting off the rush.
Even though his goal total might not change much, I think Pacioretty could be a PPG player playing on a more well-rounded line that doesn't solely depend on him scoring goals. Loved the change we saw in his game when he played with Galchenyuk and Gallagher. He more well-rounded offensive, dishing the puck as much as he shot it. He's an underrated passer...not a world beater, but he has good hockey sense to see the openings.
Pacioretty will easily command $8m IMO. We could probably get him for less AAV if it's an 8 year deal where the money is less in the final 2-3 years, though.
8-8-8-8-8-7-6.5-5.5 or something like that.
As for Patches-DD, I think Patches is just good enough that he carries DD. I don't think Patches will score more than 40 goals in a season BUT if he played with someone like Chucky, his point totals would be higher thanks to higher assist numbers.
8-8-8-8-8-7-6.5-5.5 or something like that.
As for Patches-DD, I think Patches is just good enough that he carries DD. I don't think Patches will score more than 40 goals in a season BUT if he played with someone like Chucky, his point totals would be higher thanks to higher assist numbers.
waffledave
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Price + Patch combined will be making around $23-25 million between them.
Good luck with that one Bergevin. Galchenyuk will be looking for a new contract around then too.
Good luck with that one Bergevin. Galchenyuk will be looking for a new contract around then too.
hototogisu
Poked the bear!!!!!
I think his assist totals would increase if he played with a better shooter than Desharnais, sure. But then his goal totals might take a hit too - there's only one puck out there, after all.
Unless Price takes a big discount he'll easily command in the $9.5m ballpark.
It's why I'm on the line of thought that our cup window is open as long as Patches and Price are on their current deals, because soon, not even including Chucky and assuming they take the minimum of their worth, we'll have $26m tied up in 3 players (Subban-$9m, Price-$9m, Patches-$8m). Again, that's assuming they take the minimum of their true value to stay with the Habs. I can see Price doing it, but Patches has played on a discount for so long that he'll be looking to get paid. That's also assuming any new deals don't have lower $$ for later years, too.
It's why I'm on the line of thought that our cup window is open as long as Patches and Price are on their current deals, because soon, not even including Chucky and assuming they take the minimum of their worth, we'll have $26m tied up in 3 players (Subban-$9m, Price-$9m, Patches-$8m). Again, that's assuming they take the minimum of their true value to stay with the Habs. I can see Price doing it, but Patches has played on a discount for so long that he'll be looking to get paid. That's also assuming any new deals don't have lower $$ for later years, too.
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If both Price and Pacioretty still deserve 23-25M together by then, and Galchenyuk deserves a contract that puts us in cap trouble, we'll have won a Stanley Cup.
Richiebottles
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People also have to realize that we will have rookies on the ELC's by that point.
And deadweight like DD, Emelin and others off the books.
GMs plan for this. Especially MB.
And deadweight like DD, Emelin and others off the books.
GMs plan for this. Especially MB.
waffledave
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Not really. Those contracts for Price and Patch are simply for what they are doing now. What their market worth will be in 3 years. And they're not winning any cups now.
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