OT: The Other Sports Thread Part X

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At least in the NFL there is a chance for some new blood to make some noise. You can skip the whole CFB season and just tune in to the SEC and Big 10 championship games.
It's what you make of it. I went to a mid-major school and obviously you go into every year knowing there's zero chance of winning a national championship. But you've got rivalries, conference titles, hell not so long ago we were in the Cotton Bowl. An experience I wouldn't trade for anything.

Will be interesting to see how things shake out with the most recent realignment. Hopefully the MAC/group of 5 doesn't end up left totally in the cold.
 
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stoked for next years layout, i could be wrong but this goes right by Bridgestone arena??
 

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stoked for next years layout, i could be wrong but this goes right by Bridgestone arena??
The arena is one block away, 5th Ave.

This goes past the Hilton, Hall of Fame Park, the Country Music Hall of Fame, and the Omni.




Edit: Broadway rooftops will be crazy. I wonder if they will sell tickets or packages. And if it would be from the individual bars or through Indycar.
 

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The arena is one block away, 5th Ave.

This goes past the Hilton, Hall of Fame Park, the Country Music Hall of Fame, and the Omni.




Edit: Broadway rooftops will be crazy. I wonder if they will sell tickets or packages. And if it would be from the individual bars or through Indycar.
Indycar wont interfere…I’m sure there will be some ticket/VIP packages tied in with the honkeytonks, but it wont be like in Vegas where F1 is charging businesses lining the track $1500 per patron or threatening to build huge barricades to prevent non ticketed people from seeing the race.

Indycar has a more sensible philosophy in this regard

F1 vegas is a cash grab that will most likely fizzle out after a few years, Indycar is looking to make this a heritage event and one of the “majors” outside of Indy- Think Long Beach Grand Prix (almost 50 years of heritage) or St Petersburg Grand Prix (20 years )
 
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Indycar wont interfere…I’m sure there will be some ticket/VIP packages tied in with the honkeytonks, but it wont be like in Vegas where F1 is charging businesses lining the track $1500 per patron or threatening to build huge barricades to prevent non ticketed people from seeing the race.

Indycar has a more sensible philosophy in this regard

F1 vegas is a cash grab that will most likely fizzle out after a few years, Indycar is looking to make this a heritage event and one of the “majors” outside of Indy- Think Long Beach Grand Prix (almost 50 years of heritage) or St Petersburg Grand Prix (20 years )

I'm not sure that this is actually going to fizzle out in Vegas. I mean sure maybe in a decade like most anything else in Vegas. But the city itself is a huge draw so it doesn't take much to keep something going. I just got back and spent a lot of time talking to people about this event. Seems to have significant buzz. Though if you ask any local driver, it's about all they want to talk about right now, they hate it because the city already has a huge traffic issue and the construction required to support this event is making everything terrible*. They're even talking about putting an MLB Stadium where Tropicana sits (I think this got killed.. for now) and also bringing an NBA team in. Vegas has always been busy but once you add in MLB and NBA it's going to another level. There will never be a down period.

*Heading back in December and will have our own car for that trip. Just glad that all of the construction will be done by then since it has to be complete before the F1 event.
 

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I'm not sure that this is actually going to fizzle out in Vegas. I mean sure maybe in a decade like most anything else in Vegas. But the city itself is a huge draw so it doesn't take much to keep something going. I just got back and spent a lot of time talking to people about this event. Seems to have significant buzz. Though if you ask any local driver, it's about all they want to talk about right now, they hate it because the city already has a huge traffic issue and the construction required to support this event is making everything terrible*. They're even talking about putting an MLB Stadium where Tropicana sits (I think this got killed.. for now) and also bringing an NBA team in. Vegas has always been busy but once you add in MLB and NBA it's going to another level. There will never be a down period.

*Heading back in December and will have our own car for that trip. Just glad that all of the construction will be done by then since it has to be complete before the F1 event.
Despite the sizzle of the new event, ticket sales aren’t super robust. It will probably end up selling out, but I doubt that happens until race weekend.

All street races face a similar hangover- Miami GP was down after the first year and so was the Music City GP.

The Vegas GP’s biggest issue will be finding 100,000 people YoY who want to spend $5,000 minimum on a race ticket for a processional race where the outcome is most likely determined by the first corner of the opening lap
 

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They may live to fight another day! Although it this point it is probably more of a when will the Pac 12 die versus if.

We tried to save 'em. They've been such good friends for so long. But instead we're having to take the Rose Bowl in-house, apparently. :shakehead


If Jim Delany had his way 12 years ago, the Big Ten and Pac-12 would have consummated a partnership and eliminated any potential for one league to devour the other.

The former Big Ten commissioner orchestrated a strategic partnership with then-Pac-12 honcho Larry Scott that would have added an annual regular-season football game and other sporting contests between the historic allies.

“We wanted to get to the West Coast and grow our TV and work with them,” Delany told The Athletic. “We agreed. We had a release on it. We wanted to expand without expanding."
The leagues’ deal was announced on Dec. 28, 2011. The Pac-12 publicly backtracked on July 13, 2012, much to Delany’s aggravation. Four months later, the Big Ten invited Rutgers and Maryland to begin play in 2014. Last year, USC and UCLA agreed to join the Big Ten in 2024. Any day, anywhere from two to four Pac-12 rivals could follow.
 

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The Vegas GP’s biggest issue will be finding 100,000 people YoY who want to spend $5,000 minimum on a race ticket for a processional race where the outcome is most likely determined by the first corner of the opening lap

For sure. It's not just the race ticket either as the room rates are insane. I'm guessing this is going to be an event primarily supported by a lot of foreigners who have a ton of money.
 

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Guess it just cooled off because everyone fell asleep. Big 10 is making out like bandits in all of this for sure. Will be interesting to see if the ACC is the next conference to blow up. All it takes is FSU or Clemson saying they want out and they probably collapse too. Although at this point I think making a couple super conferences with divisions that roughly match the old conferences is probably the best hope.
 

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Guess it just cooled off because everyone fell asleep. Big 10 is making out like bandits in all of this for sure.
I prefer to think of it as a golden parachute for our historic rivals/associates. In my head I'm already calling the conference the "B1G Pac". :)

So what does the SEC do, if anything? I know FSU's already griping loudly about the ACC grant of rights and they have a will-they-won't-they history with the SEC that rivals that of Notre Dame and the B1G...
 

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I prefer to think of it as a golden parachute for our historic rivals/associates. In my head I'm already calling the conference the "B1G Pac". :)

So what does the SEC do, if anything? I know FSU's already griping loudly about the ACC grant of rights and they have a will-they-won't-they history with the SEC that rivals that of Notre Dame and the B1G...
I don’t see the SEC doing much, why would they?
 

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I don’t see the SEC doing much, why would they?
Presumption based on the idea that every alignment shuffle seems to be one of the conferences responding to another and the SEC hasn't done anything since Texas and Oklahoma were pulled in. Not much of a rational basis, but arguably there's not much here that is rational to begin with. :dunno:
 

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