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Good for them. My in-laws are both dead and took much the same approach as my parents are now. I used to get frustrated but it's reached a point that I can only shake my head. I've already accepted that they will never take my word or advice, not even when it's in the area of my profession, and refuse to accept that they can't blow health concerns off at their age. I just wait for the phone call that one of them is dead. For now, one is just in the hospital and will miss my daughter's graduation, simply from ignoring fairly obvious symptoms for 3-4 days (like puking bile).

I learned a long time ago just how tough I am, but I've never felt the need to prove it by ignoring obvious medical concerns.

Still, that's rough. I hope they come out of it and hopefully for their sake, with a bit more awareness for the future.

Both of my parents are dealing with things this spring. My mom had cataract surgery in both eyes and has a quarterly lung scan because she was a heavy smoker when younger to keep an eye on "spots" in both of her lungs. My dad had valve replacement and after some browbeating from at least me and my mother (don't know about my sister), he did physio afterward because his legs were wobbly even after the procedure. He's feeling a lot better but my mom is talking about his valve shelf-life as an expiration date so they're about to go adventuring again. Which would be great if my father wanted to go places, but he's content to go to the range and putter around the house. He doesn't really want to go.
 

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Still, that's rough. I hope they come out of it and hopefully for their sake, with a bit more awareness for the future.

Both of my parents are dealing with things this spring. My mom had cataract surgery in both eyes and has a quarterly lung scan because she was a heavy smoker when younger to keep an eye on "spots" in both of her lungs. My dad had valve replacement and after some browbeating from at least me and my mother (don't know about my sister), he did physio afterward because his legs were wobbly even after the procedure. He's feeling a lot better but my mom is talking about his valve shelf-life as an expiration date so they're about to go adventuring again. Which would be great if my father wanted to go places, but he's content to go to the range and putter around the house. He doesn't really want to go.
At least they seem to be addressing issues, mostly. My dad waited until his major joints were near useless before finally having replacement surgery. He waited so long for a shoulder replacement that his bicep couldn't be re-attached to the shoulder. It shriveled up and couldn't reach that far. But is he taking it easy and puttering around the house? No. He insists on working as an auto mechanic, and just a couple weeks ago screwed up his other replaced shoulder after insisting on taking a heavy tire off a car by himself. It's almost like he's a masochist and wants sympathy or recognition for sacrificing himself, when really he just can't accept getting old.
 

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At least they seem to be addressing issues, mostly. My dad waited until his major joints were near useless before finally having replacement surgery. He waited so long for a shoulder replacement that his bicep couldn't be re-attached to the shoulder. It shriveled up and couldn't reach that far. But is he taking it easy and puttering around the house? No. He insists on working as an auto mechanic, and just a couple weeks ago screwed up his other replaced shoulder after insisting on taking a heavy tire off a car by himself. It's almost like he's a masochist and wants sympathy or recognition for sacrificing himself, when really he just can't accept getting old.

That sounds familiar. A lot of "I'll just do this myself" from my dad too, including after the hurricane that rocked their neighborhood. He's out there with a bad ticker, working in the sun like he's not in his 80's, but doing it in a way where I'm thinking "which hospital still has a roof".
 

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So my wife put in for a position at work and found out when she got there today that she got the position. It comes with a ~8.5% raise and at times she will travel for various certifications and classes that will help further advance her career.
That’s a good solid increase. Congratulations 👏
 
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Good stuff MM!

On a smaller scale, made it out to one of our local farmers' markets today and got some tasty noms. I used to go regularly pre-pandemic and then a few times after things reopened, but I hadn't been in months until today. I like that it's mostly a blend of local growers and some specialty folks (Alaskan seafood guy, two local dairies, a couple local bakeries) and light on the faux crunchy granola suburbanite end of things. Not much in the way of crystals and fu-fu chakra jabbers and things like that, just eats and people who grew it/cooked it/slaughtered it trying to make a living. Heavier toward the soil, low on the new age stuff.
 

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Lots of markets around here to get fresh fruits and veggies cheaper than in the shops. There's a fabulous seafood market down by Naklau beach that for a couple bucks will cook the food so you can picnic on the beach under some umbrellas

I miss the market in Grecia when I was living in CR. There were over 100 vendors. I miss that I knew a bunch of the sellers and it was direct interaction with the growers.
 

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Of all the middle aged posters here with both parents still alive and kids, how many of you have reached the point where your parents are more of a problem than your kids? I'm there, probably been there for a bit.

Kid is graduating HS and about to leave for college in a few months. She can learn quickly and abruptly about all the things she hasn't paid enough attention to me for the last couple years (what it means to be truly dedicated to work/school, finances, budgeting, living healthy, etc). Meanwhile, my parents seem more than willing to fill the gap when my daughter leaves, with a lack of awareness or perspective, health, finances...whatever comes next, who knows.

When family doesn't seem to care enough about their health, or plays the "tough it out" routine to the point if asinine stupidity, ending up worse off than if they just addressed the problem appropriately and on time, it's hard to get worked up and care when things go south. It's like watching a drug addict who won't seek treatment, it's just self-destruction painted on a different canvas.
My parents met and married late in life for their era (mid-late 1960's,. Dad 35, mom 29). My dad died 33 years ago, mom 7. There were of an era (born & raised in the depression) when you didn't go to doctors. My dad more so that way of avoidance than my mom. I recall his adult injuries (and description of injuries of he and his siblings in their youth) which today would be considered neglect if you didn't go for medical treatment. He eventually had internal digestive and organ issues, etc., and, despite surgeries and medications, eventually went on medical disability in the mid-late 1970s (when it was easier to qualify). I recall the regurgitating bile, vomiting blood, etc. I remember offering to donate blood for him when I was not old enough to do so.

Family friends (parents' friends) of that vintage with similar attitudes and behaviors. I could name-drop Buffalo / WNY business names (and/or political players, and youth hockey teams) and I know some here would know these people. Work every day until they retire despite walking pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. Don't see doctors more than the minimum and keep drinking and chain smoking despite diabetes, heart issues, obesity, etc., but they 100% kept praying the rosary. I loved them all.

Sometimes you need to accept the stubborn nature of loved ones. I was a dumbass and sliced into my index finger lengthwise on my table saw a few years ago. Was home on a Friday afternoon about 1:30PM. Wasn't even drinking. Bandaged it up and was going to keep working but I figured when my wife found out, it would be a worse outcome than the ER visit, so I called her at work and she came home to take me for stitches (there wasn't much to stich, it was pretty mutilated - what the ER Dr. called "mush").

My mom had a mild heart attack and didn't even call anyone. Went to her Dr. a few days later, was admitted to hospital and had an episode a couple days later and passed. Didn't want to be resuscitated. Not being morbid, but sometimes peoples attitudes and terms aren't yours/ours.
Good for them. My in-laws are both dead and took much the same approach as my parents are now. I used to get frustrated but it's reached a point that I can only shake my head. I've already accepted that they will never take my word or advice, not even when it's in the area of my profession, and refuse to accept that they can't blow health concerns off at their age. I just wait for the phone call that one of them is dead. For now, one is just in the hospital and will miss my daughter's graduation, simply from ignoring fairly obvious symptoms for 3-4 days (like puking bile).

I learned a long time ago just how tough I am, but I've never felt the need to prove it by ignoring obvious medical concerns.
(Too add to the above) @Dubi Doo posted a few pages back about recognizing elevated blood pressure. With my Dr.'s knowledge, I lived with BP higher than that for years before finally getting medication.
At least they seem to be addressing issues, mostly. My dad waited until his major joints were near useless before finally having replacement surgery. He waited so long for a shoulder replacement that his bicep couldn't be re-attached to the shoulder. It shriveled up and couldn't reach that far. But is he taking it easy and puttering around the house? No. He insists on working as an auto mechanic, and just a couple weeks ago screwed up his other replaced shoulder after insisting on taking a heavy tire off a car by himself. It's almost like he's a masochist and wants sympathy or recognition for sacrificing himself, when really he just can't accept getting old.
MId-1980s: My dad in his mid-50s was rotating the tires on a Plymouth Valiant (Dodge Dart) when (standing on) the tire-iron for the lug nuts cut his lower leg the entire length of his shin to the bone. He didn't go for stitches, just bandaged it up. NASTY laceration. Then realized the passenger-side wheel lugs were reverse-threaded.
That sounds familiar. A lot of "I'll just do this myself" from my dad too, including after the hurricane that rocked their neighborhood. He's out there with a bad ticker, working in the sun like he's not in his 80's, but doing it in a way where I'm thinking "which hospital still has a roof".
Yep. That's just the way many people of that era are.

And that aura / era of inherent indestructability is special. Case in point: How the hell is Keith Richards still alive????? I mean seriously?????
 
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My parents met and married late in life for their era (mid-late 1960's,. Dad 35, mom 29). My dad died 33 years ago, mom 7. There were of an era (born & raised in the depression) when you didn't go to doctors. My dad more so that way of avoidance than my mom. I recall his adult injuries (and description of injuries of he and his siblings in their youth) which today would be considered neglect if you didn't go for medical treatment. He eventually had internal digestive and organ issues, etc., and, despite surgeries and medications, eventually went on medical disability in the mid-late 1970s (when it was easier to qualify). I recall the regurgitating bile, vomiting blood, etc. I remember offering to donate blood for him when I was not old enough to do so.

Family friends (parents' friends) of that vintage with similar attitudes and behaviors. I could name-drop Buffalo / WNY business names (and/or political players, and youth hockey teams) and I know some here would know these people. Work every day until they retire despite walking pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. Don't see doctors more than the minimum and keep drinking and chain smoking despite diabetes, heart issues, obesity, etc., but they 100% kept praying the rosary. I loved them all.

Sometimes you need to accept the stubborn nature of loved ones. I was a dumbass and sliced into my index finger lengthwise on my table saw a few years ago. Was home on a Friday afternoon about 1:30PM. Wasn't even drinking. Bandaged it up and was going to keep working but I figured when my wife found out, it would be a worse outcome than the ER visit, so I called her at work and she came home to take me for stitches (there wasn't much to stich, it was pretty mutilated - what the ER Dr. called "mush").

My mom had a mild heart attack and didn't even call anyone. Went to her Dr. a few days later, was admitted to hospital and had an episode a couple days later and passed. Didn't want to be resuscitated. Not being morbid, but sometimes peoples attitudes and terms aren't yours/ours.

My paternal grandmother did something like that - was having chest pains from heart palpitations that woke her out of a sound sleep in the middle of the night and instead of A) calling the fire department EMT's from the fire hall her husband was chief at and a member of as a volunteer for 71 years or B) calling her son to take her to the hospital she waited until morning when she thought my father would be up for work before calling him because as she put it, she didn't want anyone to worry and didn't want to put anyone out. She wound up having a series of mild strokes which the doctor attributed to the palpitations causing plaque to dislodge. Hard headed isn't the half of it.

Granted, she had cause to distrust physicians and hospitals. Her first husband went in for a simple deviated septum correction and wound up with an infection that killed him. She was a young widow, home with my aunt who was only 2 at the time, and this after being assured it was a simple procedure with no chance of complications. In essence, it was then family lore that people go to the hospital to die - didn't matter what it was for, birth, surgery, visiting someone else - the story was death awaits within hospital halls. I know that has some impact on my father still, he had to deal with that from his first moments.


(Too add to the above) @Dubi Doo posted a few pages back about recognizing elevated blood pressure. With my Dr.'s knowledge, I lived with BP higher than that for years before finally getting medication.

MId-1980s: My dad in his mid-50s was rotating the tires on a Plymouth Valiant (Dodge Dart) when (standing on) the tire-iron for the lug nuts cut his lower leg the entire length of his shin to the bone. He didn't go for stitches, just bandaged it up. NASTY laceration. Then realized the passenger-side wheel lugs were reverse-threaded.

Yep. That's just the way many people of that era are.

And that aura / era of inherent indestructability is special. Case in point: How the hell is Keith Richards still alive????? I mean seriously?????

My father was joking that the new valve is supposed to last up to 10 years so he should be able to get a trade in when he needs a new one. They're funny, funny people. :D
 
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Thais are weird. I have a new family unit that consists of 3 sisters and an 18yo daughter. The oldest sister at 33yo wants to be their mamasan, told her she needs to have at least 5 girls working for her. She says no problem, they have 4 cousins starting on Friday so a new clique in the bar but all the girls are skinny so that's a plus
 

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Thais are weird. I have a new family unit that consists of 3 sisters and an 18yo daughter. The oldest sister at 33yo wants to be their mamasan, told her she needs to have at least 5 girls working for her. She says no problem, they have 4 cousins starting on Friday so a new clique in the bar but all the girls are skinny so that's a plus

I like to think of myself as a pretty creative and imaginative guy. I literally cannot imagine myself in your shoes. :laugh:
 
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One downside to home ownership is when you have two dead trees that need to be cut down and a fence that is rotting to pieces at the same time...
 

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Drop the trees onto the fence, kill two birds with one stone.
The challenge is that the one side of the fence that is the worst is the barrier that keeps our neighbors mean dog out of our backyard...

And the dead trees are close enough to the house and big enough that there is no way we are doing it ourselves.
 

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The challenge is that the one side of the fence that is the worst is the barrier that keeps our neighbors mean dog out of our backyard...

And the dead trees are close enough to the house and big enough that there is no way we are doing it ourselves.
...then kill three birds with one stone? (kidding)
 

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...then kill three birds with one stone? (kidding)
The good news is that we got the second quote for the trees and it was significantly less than the first. And this company has a boatload of recs in a town FB group that my wife is in.

If we get a lower quote on the fence, that will make things even better. We are contemplating just taking the fence down on two sides (the back fence is still in OK shape) and using the wood from the non-grumpy dog side to patch the grumpy dog side...

Ok, I have had just about enough of Canadian forest fire smoke for a lifetime! :mad: They say it will break Thursday...

Air quality just went to Dangerous

It was crazy driving over the Irondequoit Bay on my way to work this morning. I would have taken a picture if I wasn't driving.

It is bonkers.
 
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I watered the (small, 2 raised beds) garden this morning wearing two cloth masks and by the time I was done I was hacking. Air quality in this county is 294. Absolutely wretched
 
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Stopped at my mums this morning to show her how to use her a/c to filter air but not freeze her out.

Many outdoor school sporting events are being cancelled today.

For masks, they recommend an N-95 for smoke. You still might get the smell, but they will filter the bad stuff.
 
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