The only roster players we'd actually trade

[RoccoF14]

If Sway and Linus are fine with a workload split in the playoffs (and I have no reason to believe that they aren't), then what's the problem?

If one of them goes on a heater, you can always stick with the hot goalie until they cool off.

I just don't see the controversy here. Sure its not customary, but having 2 quality goaltenders like these 2 isn't customary either. Regular season or post season, stopping a puck is stopping a puck.

 

[Ladyfan]

If Sway and Linus are fine with a workload split in the playoffs (and I have no reason to believe that they aren't), then what's the problem?

If one of them goes on a heater, you can always stick with the hot goalie until they cool off.

I just don't see the controversy here. Sure its not customary, but having 2 quality goaltenders like these 2 isn't customary either. Regular season or post season, stopping a puck is stopping a puck.

BINGO

 

[Walkenthewalk]

There isn't a single player on that list above, that's untouchable from a trade perspective, if the right offer comes along.

Hell, I can think of 3-4 more guys I'd add to the list as well........It all depends on what is coming back in the deal.

Should we be actively shopping Linus at the deadline? Hell no, but I'll listen to offers. Listening is free.

Yup checked em all off.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Gryz should have been traded in the offseason. Far too late now.

Steen is disappointing in the NHL. No production but at least he does try to finish hits. If a team sees value in him perhaps he gets us a depth defenseman with size and toughness to replace Forbert if injured again.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

If Sway and Linus are fine with a workload split in the playoffs (and I have no reason to believe that they aren't), then what's the problem?

If one of them goes on a heater, you can always stick with the hot goalie until they cool off.

I just don't see the controversy here. Sure its not customary, but having 2 quality goaltenders like these 2 isn't customary either. Regular season or post season, stopping a puck is stopping a puck.

I mean only playoff teams are going to trade for a guy like Ullmark and you can rule out any of them in the Eastern conference which alone lowers the return. Back in November sure you could have swung for the fences with pretty much any team looking for the biggest package but at the TDL it doesn't work like that you only have 1-2 bidders max.

We'll probably add a dececnt 4th liner and call it a day. Its not like other playoff teams are sitting around and saying 'hey lets add Matt Gryzlyk for our playoff run' either.

 

[CellyHard]

So explain why it wouldn't work in the playoffs? What is the difference? Should the fatigue factor be completely ignored come playoff time?

It hasn't worked for the last two years, no? Ullmark and Swayman both shared duties and we were bounced in the 1st round both times...

I feel like people are expecting different results this time and quite frankly, it isn't much different than previous years.

I will say this. If the Bruins can only get a 2nd or something back for Ullmark then no way I move him but if you can get a 1st and a solid prospect back then you have to consider it, especially if you can flip it for a Hanifin or a Lindholm.

Hanifin McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo

Swayman

Give me that top four and Swayman starting up to 7 games and I like our chances better at getting out of the 1st round and farther than with someone like Gryz and Ullmark on the bench.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

It hasn't worked for the last two years, no? Ullmark and Swayman both shared duties and we were bounced in the 1st round both times...

I feel like people are expecting different results this time and quite frankly, it isn't much different than previous years.

I will say this. If the Bruins can only get a 2nd or something back for Ullmark then no way I move him but if you can get a 1st and a solid prospect back then you have to consider it, especially if you can flip it for a Hanifin or a Lindholm.

Hanifin McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo

Swayman

Give me that top four and Swayman starting up to 7 games and I like our chances better at getting out of the 1st round and farther than with someone like Gryz and Ullmark on the bench.

Do you take a 2nd rounder for Ullmark from another team in the East that is in the playoff hunt? I think that would be pretty stupid.

Even if you trade him to the West you still have to pray to not see him in the finals.

 

[CellyHard]

Do you take a 2nd rounder for Ullmark from another team in the East that is in the playoff hunt? I think that would be pretty stupid.

Even if you trade him to the West you still have to pray to not see him in the finals.

Reread I wouldn’t for a 2nd

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Regardless of if you feel that keeping Ullmark this year was a good move - or the possibility that a trade with a reasonable return was ever discussed - if you trade him now you’re either a) throwing Bussi into a playoff race and potentially playing in the playoffs in case of injury before he’s ever played an NHL game or b) acquiring some other veteran backup (with no term ideally).

There aren’t exactly a glut of cheap effective veteran backups out there. Even if you decide to run Swayman every game you need some sort of depth and we have no idea if Bussi can handle it yet. I don’t think you can make that move unless there’s something I’m missing.

 

[BruinDust]

It hasn't worked for the last two years, no? Ullmark and Swayman both shared duties and we were bounced in the 1st round both times...

I feel like people are expecting different results this time and quite frankly, it isn't much different than previous years.

They did? Sure looked like they decided last year Ullmark was the guy considering Swayman didn't appear until Game 7 after two brutal losses and an injured Ullmark. The year before, Ullmark played the first two and then they ran Swayman out there 5 games in a row.

Why do you ignore the fact that it's been over a decade since one goalie played 60+ and ran the table in the playoffs? And ignore that other teams have used two goalies successfully down the stretch and into the playoffs to go on long runs, often successful runs. Times change, the game has evolved. Winnipeg runs Hellybuyck into the ground year after year playing 75% of the regular season games into the playoffs and it gets them nowhere despite having one of the best goalies in the league for quite some time now.

As a poster above said, stopping pucks is still stopping pucks, regular season or playoffs. The fatigue factor is a real thing. You really didn't answer any of my questions but went into some fantasy booking stuff with Noah Hanifin, Gryz, etc.

And if we are talking about the same results from the previous years. Boston went and did what your proposing last year. They went out and traded for a legitimate Top 4 left-shot D-man in Orlov and bumped Gryz out of the line-up and where did that get them? Looks like this rock solid Top 4 D (on paper) isn't the panacea a lot of posters here make it out to be.

 

[stungun54]

trade anyone. lindholm and hannifin are pipe dreams I want nothing to do with unless you are talking signing them this summer.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

If Sway and Linus are fine with a workload split in the playoffs (and I have no reason to believe that they aren't), then what's the problem?

If one of them goes on a heater, you can always stick with the hot goalie until they cool off.

I just don't see the controversy here. Sure its not customary, but having 2 quality goaltenders like these 2 isn't customary either. Regular season or post season, stopping a puck is stopping a puck.

Besides that strategy failing miserably the last 2 playoffs?

 

[Carl Hungus]

Regardless of if you feel that keeping Ullmark this year was a good move - or the possibility that a trade with a reasonable return was ever discussed - if you trade him now you’re either a) throwing Bussi into a playoff race and potentially playing in the playoffs in case of injury before he’s ever played an NHL game or b) acquiring some other veteran backup (with no term ideally).

There aren’t exactly a glut of cheap effective veteran backups out there. Even if you decide to run Swayman every game you need some sort of depth and we have no idea if Bussi can handle it yet. I don’t think you can make that move unless there’s something I’m missing.

completely agree with this take...

whatever could have happened in the offseason, they have the tandem again and I'd much rather see them rotated through the playoffs than have the possibility of a true backup thrown into the mix

 

[RoccoF14]

Besides that strategy failing miserably the last 2 playoffs?

Really?

 

[Tbaybruin]

Haniffin at 7.5 would give us the highest paid top 3 in the league. Not great cap management. We need a number one C.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Besides that strategy failing miserably the last 2 playoffs?

Stamina could have played an issue with Ullmark underperfoming, I agree.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Besides that strategy failing miserably the last 2 playoffs?

The problem is Monty didn’t use that strategy until it was too little too late. Swayman shoulda played game 5, that’s the true veteran coach looking far ahead move. But the good coach move was swayman in game 6, at least, after the increase in information after game 5.

Trading Ullmark only makes sense if it’s part of a larger set of moves that brings a true impact player here. Right now the bruins have an identity and a winning strategy. Will it win them a cup? I’d say the odds are middling, but there’s no better a chance and potentially much worse if we move Ullmark and don’t bring in someone who’s going to tilt the ice in another way such that having two unproven goalie’s back there if swayman goes down would royally screw the bruins.

Admittedly I don’t know who those players really are or if getting them would even be feasible, but all I know is tread lightly on trading Ullmark at this point….

 

[SwayHeyKid]

The problem is Monty didn’t use that strategy until it was too little too late. Swayman shoulda played game 5, that’s the true veteran coach looking far ahead move. But the good coach move was swayman in game 6, at least, after the increase in information after game 5.

Trading Ullmark only makes sense if it’s part of a larger set of moves that brings a true impact player here. Right now the bruins have an identity and a winning strategy. Will it win them a cup? I’d say the odds are middling, but there’s no better a chance and potentially much worse if we move Ullmark and don’t bring in someone who’s going to tilt the ice in another way such that having two unproven goalie’s back there if swayman goes down would royally screw the bruins.

Admittedly I don’t know who those players really are or if getting them would even be feasible, but all I know is tread lightly on trading Ullmark at this point….

I don't follow the reasoning on why Swayman should have started game 5 after two resounding road wins by Linus? As for increase in information after game 5 are Bruins fans still saying he was unable to play in game 6 after everyone in the organziation including Linus said he was good to go. Post series news conference the GM debunked all those injury excuses the fans came up with no?

 

[Ladyfan]

Stamina could have played an issue with Ullmark underperfoming, I agree.

injury was probably the issue

 

[SwayHeyKid]

injury was probably the issue

Even though all involved said not the case and his GM threw him under the bus at the end of the series calling the goaltending, and I’m paraphrasing “sub standard” and one of the three reasons they lost?

 

[Ladyfan]

Even though all involved said not the case and his GM threw him under the bus at the end of the series calling the goaltending, and I’m paraphrasing “sub standard” and one of the three reasons they lost?

yep

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Even though all involved said not the case and his GM threw him under the bus at the end of the series calling the goaltending, and I’m paraphrasing “sub standard” and one of the three reasons they lost?

We know the management group will lie to the fan base so I wouldn’t take the GMs word as gospel.

 

[goldnblack]

It hasn't worked for the last two years, no? Ullmark and Swayman both shared duties and we were bounced in the 1st round both times...

I feel like people are expecting different results this time and quite frankly, it isn't much different than previous years.

I will say this. If the Bruins can only get a 2nd or something back for Ullmark then no way I move him but if you can get a 1st and a solid prospect back then you have to consider it, especially if you can flip it for a Hanifin or a Lindholm.

Hanifin McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo

Swayman

Give me that top four and Swayman starting up to 7 games and I like our chances better at getting out of the 1st round and farther than with someone like Gryz and Ullmark on the bench.

this post right here!

-Sway and Linus sharing the net
-Two playoffs
-Two first round exits
-And honestly I'm not sure any of them looked good in net in either playoff year compared to their regular season levels. Scoring is typically down in the playoffs...

Eventually, results have to count for something. That said you don't trade for the sake of a trade. That's dumb. There has to be a hockey trade that makes you better.

The line between winning and losing in the NHL playoffs is razor thing. Maybe a 5% advantage at times over your adversaries. If your 4th and 5th best players are your goalies, and one is always sitting on the bench watching, 50% of the time your 5th best player is a cheerleader. Not easy to have an on-ice edge with that.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

this post right here!

Sway and Linus sharing the net
Two playoffs
Two first round exits

Eventually, results have to count for something. That said you don't trade for the sake of a trade. That's dumb. There has to be a hockey trade that makes you better.

Correlation without causation is fun!

Did they "share the net"? Or did we ride one goalie (like everyone is advocating for) until Game 7 last year?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Besides that strategy failing miserably the last 2 playoffs?

What??