Tribute The Official "Fire Tortorella" Thread
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BritainStix
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The Flyers are second in the division, and 4th in the entire conference. While systematically obliterating some of the best teams in the league.
Not bad for a coach that doesn't know how to maximize his roster for a chance to win every night.
Not bad for a coach that doesn't know how to maximize his roster for a chance to win every night.
BillDineen
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Hey, easy now
.... anyway, this jinx thread might lead Torts to win coach of the year
Audible Velvet
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I said a while ago it was going to come up, and it seems inevitable now. I still don’t like him though.
mja
Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt
My fear has been and remains that Torts can squeeze some wins and false hope out of almost any roster we lump together, with the ultimate result being that we end up in a state of longterm mediocrity. His willingness to play younger players is refreshing, as is a team identity with some swagger, but his reliance on old school head games, disregard for x's and o's, and dubious player evaluations are all still major concerns.
Hollywood Cannon
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Where was this chest bumping when they had five regulation wins in a quarter of the season?
BringBackHakstol
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I don't think anyone doubted Torts ability to get the most out of rosters like this. Yes its surprising that they have been playing this good, but there is also still plenty of time for things to go sour
The main issue people have with him on this club is questionable development tactics and dragging the team to over achievement and throwing off what should be a steady strategy of rebuilding
The main issue people have with him on this club is questionable development tactics and dragging the team to over achievement and throwing off what should be a steady strategy of rebuilding
deadhead
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The players who overachieved for Torts in the past tend to sustain that performance under him, it's when they leave him (Seth Jones, for example) they often fall off a cliff. I think a lot of his success is getting young players to buy in (he seems to have more trouble with veterans like Dubinsky and Hayes) and play a complete game. The other key is identifying the "bad fits" and quickly moving them out.
The problem isn't Torts but his GM, however, Briere seems to have his feet firmly on the ground (whereas the CBJ GM, who still has a job, is an idiot) and understands that as much as Torts is getting out of this team, that's probably all there is and they still need more talent
The problem isn't Torts but his GM, however, Briere seems to have his feet firmly on the ground (whereas the CBJ GM, who still has a job, is an idiot) and understands that as much as Torts is getting out of this team, that's probably all there is and they still need more talent
Striiker
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VladDrag
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From last April
The guy constantly contradicts himself.
Striiker
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It’s so easy to not contradict yourself when you only say things that are factually true and/or you really believe.
When you talk out of your ass and lie, it’s hard to keep track of all the bullshit you’ve made up in the past.
Beef Invictus
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As ever, observe what actions match up with statements to see what is true.
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deadhead
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Last 16 games, 6-8-2. But their overall play was middle of the pack, some puck luck that was working for them regressed.
Hart played like a guy who was distracted, wonder why?
During that stretch:
xGF 48.94% (20), HDCF 50.81% (16)
PP xGF/60: 8.04 (16), GF/60: 6.20 (19)
PK xGA/60: 7.46 (13), GA/60: 5.35 (9)
Sv% 87.27% (10)
Best forwards (xGF%)
Frost 60.18%
Foerster 56.32%
TK 51.78%
Couts 50.51%
Worst
Deslauriers 27.87%
Brink 33.71%
Laughton 36.91%
Hathaway 43.61%
D-men:
Zamula 54.84%
Risto 52.54%
Sanheim 49.94%
Seeler 48.72%
Drysdale 46.29%
Walker 45.37%
York 43.68% (York's roommate)
Hart played like a guy who was distracted, wonder why?
During that stretch:
xGF 48.94% (20), HDCF 50.81% (16)
PP xGF/60: 8.04 (16), GF/60: 6.20 (19)
PK xGA/60: 7.46 (13), GA/60: 5.35 (9)
Sv% 87.27% (10)
Best forwards (xGF%)
Frost 60.18%
Foerster 56.32%
TK 51.78%
Couts 50.51%
Worst
Deslauriers 27.87%
Brink 33.71%
Laughton 36.91%
Hathaway 43.61%
D-men:
Zamula 54.84%
Risto 52.54%
Sanheim 49.94%
Seeler 48.72%
Drysdale 46.29%
Walker 45.37%
York 43.68% (York's roommate)
EdmFlyersfan
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95% of any current NHL coach positive thread will "not age well" if you give it enough time....
Flyerfan4life
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Usually takes longer than 2 1/2 weeks.
Beef Invictus
Revolutionary Positivity
In my GDT stat crunching I'd watched Hart's stats sink down to average/below-average after a good start, so when the reality became clear I did think "ah, that's explained."
EdmFlyersfan
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Explains a lot that he never reached his potential due to the stress of the incident...his stats before the incident are elite.
Embiid
Marcus Hayes "bitch" slapper
More star potential not fully realized in Philly but he literally made his own bed in this case...
Ghosts Beer
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BritainStix
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We haven't played a game for a week and I wasn't expecting us to lose our starting goaltender
deadhead
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The Flyers aren't collapsing, when you look at the numbers they've just come back to earth, in the middle of the pack, though the PP is also middle of the pack now.
About the best you could expect given their talent, solid two lines then one of the worst bottom six groups in the league, no 1st D-pair, and a starting goalie who literally imploded.
About the best you could expect given their talent, solid two lines then one of the worst bottom six groups in the league, no 1st D-pair, and a starting goalie who literally imploded.
Striiker
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Throwing another tantrum.
Look at that development. Look at that culture. Look at that leadership.
Look at that development. Look at that culture. Look at that leadership.
