Blue Jays Discussion: The official Davis Schneider Appreciation Society

[saska sault]

Maeda 2 yrs to the Tigers

Hopefully next week we start to see some Jays moves

Probably good news they aren't doing much yet as all the big names are yet to move. Waiting to see if they can land a big fish first.

 

[3rd Username]

A few pages back a writer was mentioned that as-is the Jays are a 72 win team? Gausmann, Berrios, Bassitt and Kikuchi as starters plus the depth of the bullpen does not equal 72 wins no matter what the offense looks like. Ludacris...

That was Richard Griffin, he used to write a baseball column in the Toronto Star & before that was the Expos PR man. Not sure where the comment was made but I'd bet it was a joke. In his column I recall he'd write things such as Rex Hudler having a better radio voice than Vin Scully & then be amused at the people who took him seriously

 

[Canada4Gold]

I think he was arguing it on twitter after the fact. I'd be quite surprised if it was a joke

 

[trellaine201]

That was Richard Griffin, he used to write a baseball column in the Toronto Star & before that was the Expos PR man. Not sure where the comment was made but I'd bet it was a joke. In his column I recall he'd write things such as Rex Hudler having a better radio voice than Vin Scully & then be amused at the people who took him seriously

I heard the interview and question on air. He was not joking about the 72 win team lol and was even asked again by the host. I forget what show it was on the radio BUT the host was surprised by that comment!

 

[3rd Username]

I think he was arguing it on twitter after the fact. I'd be quite surprised if it was a joke

Interesting, I might check out his Twitter to see why he thinks that. I assumed it was joke since off the top of my head I can't think of the reasoning for coming to such as pessimistic prediction. Or I won't bother & I'll probably just go back to ignoring most of what the sports media says, lol

 

[trellaine201]

I now remember the host response included mentioning “even with (named our pitchers and the guys then said even then were a 72 win team lmao

 

[phillipmike]

Gray
Mikolas
Lynn
Matz
Gibson

Not bad

 

[Ale Brew]

Gray
Mikolas
Lynn
Matz
Gibson

Not bad

Curious to see the terms. Both Lynn and Gibson were overpays and I expect Gray probably will be too given he’s signing so early. Maybe 5 years $115M or more?

 

[Ale Brew]

Sounds like it’s 3 years $75M

 

[Puckstuff]

3 years, 75 million. That seems like a fair deal for both parties imo.

 

[Discoverer]

Gray
Mikolas
Lynn
Matz
Gibson

Not bad

Eh... it seems mediocre at best to me, especially considering they're going to make a combined $78 million and Matz is the only one under 34. Lynn was a disaster last year, while Gibson and Mikolas both had kind-of-ok peripherals but sucked at actually preventing runs. Matz had an awesome second half, at least.

 

[phillipmike]

Eh... it seems mediocre at best to me, especially considering they're going to make a combined $78 million and Matz is the only one under 34. Lynn was a disaster last year, while Gibson and Mikolas both had kind-of-ok peripherals but sucked at actually preventing runs. Matz had an awesome second half, at least.

Overall maybe not, but for their division, it might be the best.

 

[Killer Orcas]

MLB offseason: Predicting trade chances for these eight stars

The trade market is hot, with big names at least in play. Here we’ll predict the trade chances for eight stars.

nypost.com

Juan Soto, Padres OF

The Padres need to cut money and are listening, and the untimely death of beloved and admired team owner Peter Seidler is yet another reason rivals believe the Padres won’t continue to collect stars. While there’s no likelihood Soto would forgo free agency now — agent Scott Boras and Soto would consider an extension but only at their price, surely well above the $440M he turned down from the Nats — he still has good value. Rivals see the Padres getting two top-100 prospects for him. One caveat: If the Padres somehow get Shohei Ohtani, Soto will surely go. Odds to be traded: 65 percent.

Saw this article other day would be a dream if he came here between Bo and Vlad. It even has potential package base for getting him here.

MSN

 

[weems]

Passan had a article earlier listing three teams trying hard to sign Ohtani........Dodgers, Rangers and Blue jays

 

[habamillions]

I mean its good the jays are trying to be competitive in free agency but do you really want to compete with the dodgers and rangers and spend 50 mil on 1 player?

 

[DuklaNation]

MLB offseason: Predicting trade chances for these eight stars

The trade market is hot, with big names at least in play. Here we’ll predict the trade chances for eight stars.

nypost.com

Juan Soto, Padres OF

The Padres need to cut money and are listening, and the untimely death of beloved and admired team owner Peter Seidler is yet another reason rivals believe the Padres won’t continue to collect stars. While there’s no likelihood Soto would forgo free agency now — agent Scott Boras and Soto would consider an extension but only at their price, surely well above the $440M he turned down from the Nats — he still has good value. Rivals see the Padres getting two top-100 prospects for him. One caveat: If the Padres somehow get Shohei Ohtani, Soto will surely go. Odds to be traded: 65 percent.

Soto is the guy I would target on offense, him & Vlad are bros. 1 year left until UFA so his price has to be viewed as a rental. But I assume SD wants much more than that (I'd be surprised if they got it especially considering what he turned down already from Washington).

But hinges on where the player wants to extend.

 

[saska sault]

I mean its good the jays are trying to be competitive in free agency but do you really want to compete with the dodgers and rangers and spend 50 mil on 1 player?

Yep. Not my money, spend it all Rogers. They have the deepest pockets around, no reason they shouldn't be in on any big name if the goal is to win now.

 

[Bjindaho]

I mean its good the jays are trying to be competitive in free agency but do you really want to compete with the dodgers and rangers and spend 50 mil on 1 player?

I think that's a short-sighted way to look at it. It's 50 million towards the luxury tax, but in real money, it would be much less than 50 million because of the extra merchandise he would move.

 

[Discoverer]

I mean its good the jays are trying to be competitive in free agency but do you really want to compete with the dodgers and rangers and spend 50 mil on 1 player?

100% yes.

 

[Eyedea]

San Diego would be a great bounce back spot for Manoah if a trade were to line up between the two teams. Bad year be damned, 4 more years of control and no arb until next year on a CYA finalist would be pretty valuable pickup.

 

[landy92mack29]

The add revenue Rogers would get from Japanese companies would cover a good chunk if not all his salary

 

[jetsforever]

I mean its good the jays are trying to be competitive in free agency but do you really want to compete with the dodgers and rangers and spend 50 mil on 1 player?

If it's Ohtani, yes

 

[Suntouchable13]

Imagine Ohtani in this rotation, wow. Too bad he can’t pitch till 2025 season. Go into a ALDS with Ohtani-Gaus-Bassitt/Berrios. Forget about it, other team.

 

[trellaine201]

Eh... it seems mediocre at best to me, especially considering they're going to make a combined $78 million and Matz is the only one under 34. Lynn was a disaster last year, while Gibson and Mikolas both had kind-of-ok peripherals but sucked at actually preventing runs. Matz had an awesome second half, at least.

Hope they have a big park. Matz gave up a bucket of HRs as did Lynn last year per IP. Not sure about the others though.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I doubt we'll get Ohtani, but one thing Shatkins has always been able to do is convince top tier free agents to take our money (Springer, Ryu, Gausman) so I wouldn't put it past them to make a really good sales pitch and at least have a fighting chance.