Blue Jays Discussion: The official Davis Schneider Appreciation Society

[Bjindaho]

I'm just going off of all accounts that he prefers the West Coast.

But I've never understood why a non-American wouldn't view Toronto as one of his best landing spots, if offered a competitive offer. Can be marketed to the entire country with no other teams/players standing in the way. Similarly, all eyes are solely on the team, especially if they are competitive since there is no other pro sports team in the way during the summer months. A great city (and they can't even complain about the winter months). State-of-the-art training facilities, and the Dome continues to be revamped.

On top of that, the Jays have had great relationships in Japan and the Dominican (for ex.) for decades, and their presence and marketability would be even farther reaching.

For a lot of them, it is the difference in time for a flight home.

 

[stats1]

Can we contact the players union first and file a grievance over Alek's unplayability?

I was just thinking this. LOL it was Manoah who not only stunk the place up but clearly he needs to lose some weight and see a therapist for his mental issues. The team got screwed over this past year. Lost a full year of a possible CY Young candidate

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Our 2024 left fielder?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

The other Japanese pitcher would be a nice add too.

 

[Puckstuff]

The Jays could also play Davis Schneider at LF if they need to do it. Fangraphs has him projected to be a 113 wrc+ player next year which is a higher projection then Gurriel Jr. We also have Roden as an option who could be ready in 2024.

Maybe we should target a 3B instead of LF. I'd be really interested in Arenado. It could be like getting 2019 Donaldson.

 

[dredeye]

Would you guys do 25M x 10? That's seems to be the number being projected to get it done. That would take him to age 35 and put him 3M higher than Gausman. I'd be ok with that AAV but 10 years at that price could be risk for a 5'10 pitcher with no MLB track record. To earn that contract he would have to produce 3.6 WAR per year for the length of the contract, which is basically 10 years of Berrios-like production.

I wouldn’t be opposed but it’s huge gamble for sure

 

[HuGort]

Just reply with Manoahs fangraphs link to any attempt at a grievance. Save on the lawyers hours.

Never seen a player fall off like Manoah before. A year ago he was Cy Young candidate. Spent half a year in minors

 

[Woodman19]

Never seen a player fall off like Manoah before. A year ago he was Cy Young candidate. Spent half a year in minors

Didn't that happen to Dontrell Willis?

 

[Killer Orcas]

Didn't that happen to Dontrell Willis?

Chuck Knoblauch another I recall from superstar to can't throw the ball to first. I know he had a much longer career but he was still in prime and then just developed the "yips" at around 30-31 and couldn't hit 1B with a throw. Was retired by 33.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I wouldn’t be opposed but it’s huge gamble for sure

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22 x 9 sounds a lot more palatable.

 

[HuGort]

Didn't that happen to Dontrell Willis?

Could be, I am not familiar with player. I remember Rickey Romero fell apart. But he wasn't as good as Manoah.

Chuck Knoblauch another I recall from superstar to can't throw the ball to first. I know he had a much longer career but he was still in prime and then just developed the "yips" at around 30-31 and couldn't hit 1B with a throw. Was retired by 33.

That's kind of common actually. Steve Sax did same thing.

 

[canucksfan]

Could be, I am not familiar with player. I remember Rickey Romero fell apart. But he wasn't as good as Manoah.


That's kind of common actually. Steve Sax did same thing.

Romero’s injury impacted him.

Manoah was bound for a regression. He overachieved in 2022. However, no one expected him to regress that badly. He came into camp out of shape and overweight. Likely believed in his own hype. Somewhat ironic he had a horrible year because he trash talked frequently in 2022.

 

[Rude Dog]

Romero’s injury impacted him.

Manoah was bound for a regression. He overachieved in 2022. However, no one expected him to regress that badly. He came into camp out of shape and overweight. Likely believed in his own hype. Somewhat ironic he had a horrible year because he trash talked frequently in 2022.

I found it odd that they chose him over a veteran like gausman opening day. Even though he was incredible the year before...i was surprised they didnt choose gaus. Figured it was more a day 2 matchup thing.

 

[Woodman19]

Romero’s injury impacted him.

Manoah was bound for a regression. He overachieved in 2022. However, no one expected him to regress that badly. He came into camp out of shape and overweight. Likely believed in his own hype. Somewhat ironic he had a horrible year because he trash talked frequently in 2022.

Round is a shape

 

[Suntouchable13]

I found it odd that they chose him over a veteran like gausman opening day. Even though he was incredible the year before...i was surprised they didnt choose gaus. Figured it was more a day 2 matchup thing.

Well, he was top 3 in Cy Young voting. I think he deserved it on merit. Gausman would have been a great choice too, of course.

 

[Hannibal]

Don’t understand why we wouldn’t trade Guerrero Jr instead of Bo.

 

[Ale Brew]

Don’t understand why we wouldn’t trade Guerrero Jr instead of Bo.

Could be the market for Bo is much better, could be indications from their agents about signability. I agree though, if I had to pick one to build around, right now it’s clearly Bo over Vlad.

 

[landy92mack29]

If both are willing to sign here long term I'm not sure why they'd trade either Bo or Vlad

 

[Suntouchable13]

Baseball off-seasons are so excruciatingly slow. It's been how long since the WS has ended? Jays have not done anything significant yet. I know it's coming, but man I am glad I am not just a baseball fan only. Sheesh. Just lots chatter and nothing of substance.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Baseball off-seasons are so excruciatingly slow. It's been how long since the WS has ended? Jays have not done anything significant yet. I know it's coming, but man I am glad I am not just a baseball fan only. Sheesh. Just lots chatter and nothing of substance.

It's always like that. The winter meetings in December are always when things kick off

 

[Ale Brew]

Maeda 2 yrs to the Tigers

Hopefully next week we start to see some Jays moves

 

[Dr.Funk]

Maeda 2 yrs to the Tigers

Hopefully next week we start to see some Jays moves

 

[Suntouchable13]

It's always like that. The winter meetings in December are always when things kick off

I know, it's just always annoying. I now have been a baseball fan long enough to know how this works. It still sucks. It is what it is.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

A few pages back a writer was mentioned that as-is the Jays are a 72 win team? Gausmann, Berrios, Bassitt and Kikuchi as starters plus the depth of the bullpen does not equal 72 wins no matter what the offense looks like. Ludacris...

 

[hockeywiz542]

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Juan Soto, Padres OF

The Padres need to cut money and are listening, and the untimely death of beloved and admired team owner Peter Seidler is yet another reason rivals believe the Padres won’t continue to collect stars. While there’s no likelihood Soto would forgo free agency now — agent Scott Boras and Soto would consider an extension but only at their price, surely well above the $440M he turned down from the Nats — he still has good value. Rivals see the Padres getting two top-100 prospects for him. One caveat: If the Padres somehow get Shohei Ohtani, Soto will surely go. Odds to be traded: 65 percent.