I don’t disagree that his value tanked but If Manoah’s value is actually that low just keep him as a 5th starter and roll the dice. He’s already at his lowest value so moving him for peanuts would be dumb. I need a good bat in the .800 ops range with 2-3 years of control at minimum. If we dont get at least that just keep him.
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That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but I’m not certain it’s fact.
Manoah is young, has several years of control still, cheap, and has a recent history of being a top of the staff guy.
All it takes is one GM to have this view and his value is still fairly significant.
Exactly. His most value is to BJs. If they get a star once his head is fixed, great, if they get zvjust a guy who is wild he is tradeable fir more than now. His head lowers his value until he demonstrates control over his emotions.
It is not, just a young pitcher, he lost control over his head not his arm. No gm can fix that. He was 10 times worse than Aroldis Chapman, or Chamberlain who had/have great arms. Remember his bravado with Cole...he acted like a boxer and sounded like the late Macho Man Randy Savage. I thought at the time they couldn't find a hat big enough for his head.
The boy needs real help.
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In relation to his value, it’s certainly lower now than it’s been. If you believe in the player and his ability to turn it around you keep him. If you think he might not (as you seem to be suggesting) then you deal him now while he’s still worth something.
Atkins doesn't learn because there's a rumour that the Jays may have interest in Dylan Carlson?
Should be no interest and this is exactly the type of deal he would do.
There definitely should be interest at the right price.
2+ WAR player at 22Yea of course…
2+ WAR player at 23
Shitty season at 24
You think that's a player who should be written off entirely?
He is not what we need. We need better players as our window is closing.
Offensively he is as bad as Varsho.
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Would love for the Jays to get Jeong Hoo-Lee. Ha Seong Kim averaged an .868 OPS over six full seasons in the KBO and after some adjustment he had a .749 OPS in the MLB last year with plsy defense. Hoo-Lee had an .898 OPS over seven seasons and is considered an above average to plus outfielder. If his bat translates I could see him being a Steven Kwan type player in left field for us.
I believe they can get his head straight, for a time. Permanently who knows. Will he break in a playoff series? Get him playing well, trade him for good value. Baseball is not a woke culture. It is about winning and any fan who thinks keeping him because of his obvious problem is not a fan. He will fall again. But he is a real talent. Do what is best for the BJs
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All the more reason not to trade him then, right?
Besides, he's been posting workout videos and it really does seem like he's finally taking his shape seriously.
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This team had so much potential, wasted because guys had down seasons with the bat. Pitching and D was top notch.
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I’d be happy if the jays took the chance
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