How does more coaches affect your enjoyment of the game?
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It's not coaches, it's accountants. Bean counters with spreadsheets and graphs and charts through and through. The MBAification of baseball. Remember "see the ball, hit the ball, catch the ball"?
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Even if the entire coaching staff was college graduates and learning how to hit a baseball included sitting in a classroom and learning some spreadsheets how does that affect your viewing of the game? It's still not played on spreadsheets. We still don't hear the hitting conversations had around swing path, pitch probability, etc, etc. We also don't hear the conversation around strategy chosen, though we may see it. We still see a 28 year old guy, swinging a twig at a ball coming in there at 98 mph. Oh no, we get less bunting, oh the horror. If you can't enjoy a game because you know the stuff you can't see might include some things, or types of people that frustrate you then that's not on the game of baseball.
To be fair, there's absolutely no excuse for Varsho not to bunt more given how good he is at it.
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2024 Top 50 MLB Free Agents
The most significant players to hit the open market this offseason, as compiled by Ben Clemens and the FanGraphs staff.
As a whole the projections from Fangraphs are lower. Especially for Bellinger. MLBTR giving him 12 years and Fangraphs giving him 6 is quite the disparity.
There is way too much parity between Clemens and crowdsourced info to suggest that they are independent.2024 Top 50 MLB Free Agents
The most significant players to hit the open market this offseason, as compiled by Ben Clemens and the FanGraphs staff.blogs.fangraphs.com
As a whole the projections from Fangraphs are lower. Especially for Bellinger. MLBTR giving him 12 years and Fangraphs giving him 6 is quite the disparity.
Also, there's no universe that those AAVs should be correct (Ohtani and Bellinger are too low and Yamamoto looks too high by a bit). Adding on to that, only an idiot would give Montgomery, Snell and Nola the same contract (they aren't exactly equal commodities).
One of the first takeaways that I have is that this is not well written from an analytics POV (and it's on FG)
I would love to see him push the limits of how much he can do it before they start adjusting the defense to try to stop it.
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GM Meetings Notebook: Could Brewers lure Mattingly from Blue Jays?
If Don Mattingly returns to the Blue Jays, the bench coach will have an expanded role. However, the Milwaukee Brewers are considering Mattingly for their vacant managerial post.
Mattingly a Brewers candidate for manager
Hoskins is a good fit for the Jays, would be in the Belt role, short deal
Some industry people suggested Manoah as a trade candidate, , no indication meaningful talks have occurred
Other teams have inquired about Jays pitchers via trade
Possibility of one of LGJ/Teoscar returning can't be ruled out
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I don’t think Rogers would go anywhere close to that landmine
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At those prices I'd be interested in any of Martinez, Lee, Candelario, Hoskins, Turner, Hicks, Brantley, Severino, Anderson.2024 Top 50 MLB Free Agents
The most significant players to hit the open market this offseason, as compiled by Ben Clemens and the FanGraphs staff.
As a whole the projections from Fangraphs are lower. Especially for Bellinger. MLBTR giving him 12 years and Fangraphs giving him 6 is quite the disparity.
Don Mattingly isn’t running the show, Rogers, Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro are. And anyway, when Don Mattingly was playing I don’t think he needed a committee to tell him how to hit.
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He’s an interesting case. Although very much a distraction he is good at what he does and pitched well in Japan. I’m assuming he’s getting a 1 yr deal
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I would like to see Varsho incorporate a leg kick. He's so athletic, but his swing is so stiff with no fluidity or looseness. It currently reminds me of Josh Donaldson's pre-swing change stiffness.
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How Manoah returning to form opens many doors for Blue Jays
Perhaps the most intriguing development of annual GM Meetings was when Blue Jays GM Ross Atkins said he feels good about Alek Manoah returning back to the 2021-22 version of himself. Just how many different options would that give Toronto? Shi Davidi takes a look.
Mentions the Cardinals interest in pitching and the Jays interest in Carlsson. If the Jays moved Manoah for Carlsson they better get a plus from St. Louis side. Tink Hence is a really interesting prospect.
A Manoah for Nootbar trade would make much more sense. Both are 25. Both are not eligible for arbitration until 2025 and free agency until 2028. Nootbar projects as a 2-3 WAR player. I would still want another prospect from St. louis though. Maybe a guy like Victor Scott II.
Carlson is bad at baseball, I have zero interest. I'd have serious thoughts about moving Manoah for Nolan Gorman or Nootbar, especially if we get Yamamoto or a good free agent pitcher.How Manoah returning to form opens many doors for Blue Jays
Perhaps the most intriguing development of annual GM Meetings was when Blue Jays GM Ross Atkins said he feels good about Alek Manoah returning back to the 2021-22 version of himself. Just how many different options would that give Toronto? Shi Davidi takes a look.www.sportsnet.ca
Mentions the Cardinals interest in pitching and the Jays interest in Carlsson. If the Jays moved Manoah for Carlsson they better get a plus from St. Louis side. Tink Hence is a really interesting prospect.
A Manoah for Nootbar trade would make much more sense. Both are 25. Both are not eligible for arbitration until 2025 and free agency until 2028. Nootbar projects as a 2-3 WAR player. I would still want another prospect from St. louis though. Maybe a guy like Victor Scott II.
Carlson's an interesting guy who I think would fit really well here. Despite the steps back this year, he still had a 118 wRC+ vs lefties after back-to-back seasons in the 140s. His defense has been solid enough, so you could play him a bit in left field and start him in CF against lefties.
He also just turned 25 and was a top prospect just a couple years ago, so it's not like he's maxed out his potential. Maybe he figures it out a bit, or maybe you try to have him stop switch-hitting, or maybe you just accept what he's been so far in his career and use him in a strict platoon role, but there would be options there regardless. I think he has plenty of upside left.
He also just turned 25 and was a top prospect just a couple years ago, so it's not like he's maxed out his potential. Maybe he figures it out a bit, or maybe you try to have him stop switch-hitting, or maybe you just accept what he's been so far in his career and use him in a strict platoon role, but there would be options there regardless. I think he has plenty of upside left.
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I'm not a huge Carlsson fan but getting him and a prospect like Tink would make it worth the risk to me. Straight up though I wouldn't do it. I'd rather have Nootbar.
Manoah has little value to any team except Jays. If he cannot show he can control himself, meaning his head nobody will give up much for him. A demonstration of head in place is imperative. He has an arm. He likely was voted the person I least want to be on a subway platform with.
This was not a Sonny Gray and NYC type of issue, Manoah head is a far bigger issue.
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