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Do any of these three teams want post season???? With Seattle and Angels more than likely winning what are the mathematics?
If Texas and Houston win tonight and then Houston sweeps Arizona and Seattle sweeps Texas, Houston would take the division with 90 wins and Texas and Seattle would tie for the Wild Card at 89. They both hold a tie-break over the Jays, so the Jays would need to get to 90.

If literally anything other than that specific scenario happens for the West teams, 89 guarantees the Jays a spot.
 
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If Texas and Houston win tonight and then Houston sweeps Arizona and Seattle sweeps Texas, Houston would take the division with 90 wins and Texas and Seattle would tie for the Wild Card at 89. They both hold a tie-break over the Jays, so the Jays would need to get to 90.

If literally anything other than that specific scenario happens for the West teams, 89 guarantees the Jays a spot.
Arizona is quite good. Great additions in Gurriel and Moreno.
 
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That AB where Guerrero watched 5 balls and 1 strike go past him and struck out with the bases loaded when it should have been 1-0 was absolutely infuriating.

Then Boone has the audacity to complain about the strike zone all year. How many breakdowns I have seen Jomboy do of Boone’s ejections for arguing balls and strikes? Countless.
 
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Both have been heating up at the right time but the team doesn’t look all that convincing yet. They’re kinda like a lite version of the Os.

They are a team with a negative run differential and in League where 85-86 wins will get you into the playoffs. They also play in a division where 3 teams are likely to finish with losing records.

In the AL, a team with close to triple digits positive run differential and 89-90 wins will miss the playoffs.

Jays would be first in the AL Central or 1 GB of the AL West and NL central division lead while having harder schedules. They would pretty much (would be 1 GB of Philly in the NL East) be in 2nd place of every division except for the AL East.

League really needs to do away with divisions and even leagues.
 

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I just don’t see an ability to do away with divisions in North America when they’re essentially built on the idea of minimizing travel costs/time. If they set up a single table they would have to reduce the amount of games they play as well which would further complicate things for owners.
 

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They need to add two teams through expansions and then set up divisions the way the NHL does. AL and NL with and 8-team East and West in each... just don't make the playoff format as dumb as the NHL.
 

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I just don’t see an ability to do away with divisions in North America when they’re essentially built on the idea of minimizing travel costs/time. If they set up a single table they would have to reduce the amount of games they play as well which would further complicate things for owners.
Not ideal but it could work.

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The East isnt issue. Add 2 expansion teams; one to Utah and another to Portland.

But just split the map in 3 sections.

West: Seattle, Giants, Portland and Vegas
South West: Dodgers, Angels, San Diego and Arizona.
Mid North: Colorado, Utah, Minnesota and KC

Any time a team from the East/Central goes on the road to a team in one of those 3 sections, they will visit all teams in said section. So a team from the east will be on the road 3 times to meet all teams from the 3 sections. 4 teams from the east will go into the west and play series, once one series is done, you rotate opponents until everyone has played each team then head home. So you finish that road trip all at once at most it is a 14 game road trip. No need to pre plan trips for the West as they will be in the East frequently as well but the same concept could work if you want it. And same goes for the East teams visiting other East teams - no sections necessary as more than half the team is on the east coast.

I suspect it doesnt happen because the owners of central teams will cry that we dont have the resources as the teams on the coasts. Billionaires crying they dont have money to spend that rivals other billionaires. Give me a break.

They need to add two teams through expansions and then set up divisions the way the NHL does. AL and NL with and 8-team East and West in each... just don't make the playoff format as dumb as the NHL.
This is the best way. But i would just have conferences, equal schedules and do away with division winners. Teams with the best records make it; 1 through 8.
 

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If Texas and Houston win tonight and then Houston sweeps Arizona and Seattle sweeps Texas, Houston would take the division with 90 wins and Texas and Seattle would tie for the Wild Card at 89. They both hold a tie-break over the Jays, so the Jays would need to get to 90.

If literally anything other than that specific scenario happens for the West teams, 89 guarantees the Jays a spot.

Everything in that scenario but flip tonights HOU/SEA game. SEA at 90, 3 way TEX/HOU/TOR tie at 89, Toronto finishes last in that 3 way tie.
 
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Jays are really shITIn the bed. They will be lucky to make the playoffs. Actually same can be said for Texas and Seattle. Mediocre teams. No second gear.
 

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Part of me wants the Jays to miss the post season because of the hopeful roster and management turn over that would likely follow.. although as a fan, playoff baseball is what you wait for all season. Team just is hard to get excited for in every aspect. Really do hope we somehow squeak in at #3 and play Minnesota. Playing Tampa just seems like postponing our funeral, at least Minnesota is not a long term kypronite of ours.
 

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Another moment of Kurt Schilling just being the absolute worst. Revealing Tim Wakefield having brain cancer when the family wanted it kept private. What an absolute trash can of a human being.
This is one of the things that I both get, and don't. I understand wanting privacy during such a difficult time. But I've also never understood the desire for hush-hush secrecy of major health issues like this either. Being blindsided by such news can be jarring.
 

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This is one of the things that I both get, and don't. I understand wanting privacy during such a difficult time. But I've also never understood the desire for hush-hush secrecy of major health issues like this either. Being blindsided by such news can be jarring.
Wake's wife also has cancer and they are deeply private in general. Add in that their children are under the age of 20 and now have to face the inevitible. That's why it was kept private.

He hasn't been on the broadcast in some time and people knew he was sick they just didn't advertise it and no one asked.

Sox statement was perfect as is Wake's longtime broadcast partner at NESN

 

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This is one of the things that I both get, and don't. I understand wanting privacy during such a difficult time. But I've also never understood the desire for hush-hush secrecy of major health issues like this either. Being blindsided by such news can be jarring.
I mean at the end of the day it just straight up was not his place to say it. If the Wakefields wanted to handle this amongst their family well that is just too bad for everyone else. Put it this way if I had a medical issue like this and told a friend and said friend turned around and blasted it out on Facebook without my blessing I would be done with said “friend” instantly.
 

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I mean at the end of the day it just straight up was not his place to say it. If the Wakefields wanted to handle this amongst their family well that is just too bad for everyone else. Put it this way if I had a medical issue like this and told a friend and said friend turned around and blasted it out on Facebook without my blessing I would be done with said “friend” instantly.
Oh, I definitely agree with this. I've seen/heard people blab something they shouldn't have (ie. pregnancy news).

That being said, now that it is out...that's horrible news for the Wakefield family. I feel for them.
 

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[Stathead] Blue Jays having 4 starting pitchers with 170+ strikeouts is quite rare​

Four Blue Jays starters — Kevin Gausman (237), Jose Berrios (184), Yusei Kikuchi (177), and Chris Bassitt (174) — have all eclipsed 170 strikeouts on the season.
  1. This easily clears the previous franchise record of two pitchers in one season, which was accomplished five times. (Source)
  2. More impressively, only nine teams in MLB history have had a rotation consist of 4 pitchers with 170+ strikeouts. No team has ever had five! (Source)
RkTeamSeasonCountPlayer List
1TOR20234Chris Bassitt Jose Berrios Kevin Gausman Yusei Kikuchi
2ATL20224Max Fried Charlie Morton Spencer Strider Kyle Wright
3CHW20214Dylan Cease Lucas Giolito Lance Lynn Carlos Rodon
4CLE20184Trevor Bauer Carlos Carrasco Mike Clevinger Corey Kluber
5WSN20164Gio Gonzalez Tanner Roark Max Scherzer Stephen Strasburg
6CHC20164Jake Arrieta Kyle Hendricks John Lackey Jon Lester
7CLE20154Trevor Bauer Carlos Carrasco Corey Kluber Danny Salazar
8NYM19904David Cone Sid Fernandez Dwight Gooden Frank Viola
9HOU19694Larry Dierker Tom Griffin Denny Lemaster Don Wilson

Imagine if Manoah was Manoah, we would have 5 starters with 170 Ks.

Last 4 teams to do this got bounced in their first playoff round. But the 2015 Indians and 2016 Cubs went to the WS.

The 1990 Mets won 91 games but missed the playoffs (old format) and the 69 (nice) Astros won 81 games but also missed.
 
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