Blue Jays Discussion: The official Davis Schneider Appreciation Society

[Discoverer]

We need another big bat, bellinger isnt that.

If he repeats his 2023 season I would say he is.

 

[Apotheosis]

Ohtani is the dream.

 

[Woodman19]

If he repeats his 2023 season I would say he is.

I'm so underwhelmed watching us get 12 hits and scoring 2 runs. I don't really care to add another good base running singles machine that plays solid defense. We need some game changing power on the middle that is hard for the opposition to navigate. (I don't believe he repeats his FA year numbers)

 

[Dr.Funk]

I'm so underwhelmed watching us get 12 hits and scoring 2 runs. I don't really care to add another good base running singles machine that plays solid defense. We need some game changing power on the middle that is hard for the opposition to navigate. (I don't believe he repeats his FA year numbers)

So you're looking for a guy who strikes out a lot

 

[Woodman19]

So you're looking for a guy who strikes out a lot

If it nets us more runs scoring off HR, Bellingers profile doesn't age well once the wheels come off his legs. Who wants to be paying a $200 million contract for a corner OF with no power or speed?

 

[TimeZone]

"The Jays aren't gonna get either of them."
*nothing happens*
"Ugh, I knew they weren't gonna get either of them. This sucks."

I mean, yeah...that's generally how it works.

Things can still suck, even if you expect as much.

 

[Ale Brew]

If it nets us more runs scoring off HR, Bellingers profile doesn't age well once the wheels come off his legs. Who wants to be paying a $200 million contract for a corner OF with no power or speed?

I’m not advocating for Bellinger at the reported price, but he did hit 26 HR’s last year and 47 in 2019 (supposedly the last time he was fully healthy).

I like his profile and fit. I’m just scared he’s brittle and goes back to that sub 200 hitter.

 

[Bjindaho]

I don't think Bellinger is plan C. I think Bellinger/Chapman is plan D.

Plan C is trade for someone not known to be available (or someone who isn't available but gets traded for anyway)

 

[Woodman19]

I’m not advocating for Bellinger at the reported price, but he did hit 26 HR’s last year and 47 in 2019 (supposedly the last time he was fully healthy).

I like his profile and fit. I’m just scared he’s brittle and goes back to that sub 200 hitter.

That's exactly it, he's a glass cannon and I want no part of a long term deal with him, I won't be shocked to see him be 2023 Springer next year.

 

[mikeyz]

Wasn't Soto supposed to be their back up plan in case they didn't get Shohei!!!......... So you know what this means right??????



IT'S HAPPENING BOYS!!!!!!...... IT'S f***ING HAPPENING!!!

 

[BlueForever75]

Did anyone on this board ever think the Jays would be chosen over the Mets and their deep pockets for Springer? How about Gausman and Bassit? Did you all think those were targets that they would acquire via free agency against teams like the Yankees and Texas who were in talks for both before they decided on Toronto?

All I am saying is what all of them stated as to why they came here is the team is setup for long term success with Vlad and Bo. That the Jays put together the best presentation and stood out from everyone else. That their new Spring Training facility and plans to make facilities both there and in the Rogers Center more appealing to the player and their experience.

True that the Dodgers are the cream of the crop in MLB. But Toronto has a lot to offer, and none of you on this board can tell me you expected the past signings.

So Ohtani is possible. To be honest if he’s a business man, and has the best agent. He should be pushed to Toronto. He has more money to be made here than in LA. Forget the contract, endorsements alone would double his earnings representing an entire Country.

 

[TimeZone]

Wasn't Soto their back up plan in case they didn't get Shohei!!!......... So you know what this means right??????



IT'S HAPPENING BOYS!!!!!!...... IT'S f***ING HAPPENING!!!

No it doesn't.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Wasn't Soto supposed to be their back up plan in case they didn't get Shohei!!!......... So you know what this means right??????



IT'S HAPPENING BOYS!!!!!!...... IT'S f***ING HAPPENING!!!

Yankees haven't been in on Ohtani

 

[mikeyz]

No it doesn't.

Lol. I know. I was being facetious.

Hence the constant wink face emojis. Lol.

 

[Eyedea]

King and Thorpe? SD has to be sending a lot more back or an extension has to be coming with it. This is the same surplus value as us giving up Tiedemann and Manoah.

Tieds is without a doubt the best of the four, and I’m not sure Thorpe holds the same value as Manoah even after their opposite years

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[BlueForever75]

Here is a question? Why would SD finalize a deal with the Yankees if jays haven’t been determined a winner for Ohtani?

Jays are said to be interested in both. But Ohtani first. So why wouldn’t they wait for Ohtani to be decided before dealing Soto?

Unless of course the only other team interested in paying the price for Soto is out because they have won the Ohtani sweepstakes!!!

 

[Woodman19]

Here is a question? Why would SD finalize a deal with the Yankees if jays haven’t been determined a winner for Ohtani?

Jays are said to be interested in both. But Ohtani first. So why wouldn’t they wait for Ohtani to be decided before dealing Soto?

Unless of course the only other team interested in paying the price for Soto is out because they have won the Ohtani sweepstakes!!!

I think it's likely the fact the Yankees blinked and gave the Padres what they wanted.

 

[Bjindaho]

Now, that is a player that I could get behind acquiring.

 

[Eyedea]

Here is a question? Why would SD finalize a deal with the Yankees if jays haven’t been determined a winner for Ohtani?

Jays are said to be interested in both. But Ohtani first. So why wouldn’t they wait for Ohtani to be decided before dealing Soto?

Unless of course the only other team interested in paying the price for Soto is out because they have won the Ohtani sweepstakes!!!

It could be as simple as the Jays providing them with their contingent final offer, and the Padres going back to the Yanks to get them to bid more.

 

[phillipmike]

Here is a question? Why would SD finalize a deal with the Yankees if jays haven’t been determined a winner for Ohtani?

Jays are said to be interested in both. But Ohtani first. So why wouldn’t they wait for Ohtani to be decided before dealing Soto?

Unless of course the only other team interested in paying the price for Soto is out because they have won the Ohtani sweepstakes!!!

I suspect SD went to everyone and said the Yankees upped their offer and this is what we want from you and the Jays gave them a hard no. Or SD had their asking price met and no reason to wait on Ohtani and risk a deal falling apart when you got what you wanted.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Can he play 3rd?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Please no to Bellinger at the term he wants. Yes, he's coming off a bounce back year but that's after three straight years of being a sub-2 WAR player. People are already crucifying Springer for his decline into a 2 WAR player at his salary imagine adding a few years and millions on that.

 

[phillipmike]

I mentioned earlier, SD is opening the season vs LAD in South Korea. Padres already have Kim and they will serve well to get Hoo Lee irrespective of his place of birth but that adds an extra layer. I expect the pitching needy Dodgers grab Ryu on a 1 year deal too.

 

[Woodman19]

Please no to Bellinger at the term he wants. Yes, he's coming off a bounce back year but that's after three straight years of being a sub-2 WAR player. People are already crucifying Springer for his decline into a 2 WAR player at his salary imagine adding a few years and millions on that.

This x10.

"If" we don't get Ohtani and with Soto now gone we might as well just blow our load elsewhere through trade to avoid that contract.